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132WalrusesInMexico 06-10-2006 12:34 PM

Man, I just bought Live At Leeds the other day... What an amazing live album.

JohnXDoesn't 06-10-2006 12:35 PM

[QUOTE=Jody LeCompte]Man....As much as I love The Who, this means the John Mayer Trio won't be playing anymore. I was hoping they'd bring blues back into the mainstream...[/QUOTE]
I did not know Pino was doing that with Mayer. And The Who are kind of an again, off again project. The old men need rest. So Pino will be free enough to do some other work. Zak Starkey did a whole tour with Oasis and The Who worked around it. So the Mayer thing can still happen.
[QUOTE=132WalrusesInMexico]Man, I just bought Live At Leeds the other day... What an amazing live album.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, it's quite the experiance. Better then actually going to most shows. Just sit in your living room and let it blast...

PinkFreud 06-10-2006 12:38 PM

[QUOTE=Jody LeCompte]Man..

As much as I love The Who, this means the John Mayer Trio won't be playing anymore. I was hoping they'd bring blues back into the mainstream...[/QUOTE]
Mayer broke that up after their live album anyway.

Jody LeCompte 06-10-2006 12:43 PM

Yea, his next solo album hits stores next month. I guess he got his fill of blues.

...

Enwhistle could spank Pino...Well, he used to be able to, I guess.

JohnXDoesn't 06-10-2006 12:51 PM

I'm listening to this Mayer thing now. I don't like him ordinarily, but I'm enjoying this. Why not keep doing it? Now he's gonna give us more chick tunes. :(

And yeah, John could spank most other bass players. Lot's of great footage of him around. I was listening/watching him earlier at Pete's site. Remarkable. Pino does a decent job sitting in, but he cannot fill John's considerable shoes by any stretch of the imagination.

Jody LeCompte 06-10-2006 12:54 PM

I've been studying John's "typewriter" technique that he started using quite a bit in his later solos.

I really can't figure it out entirely though.

JohnXDoesn't 06-10-2006 12:59 PM

He's a tricky and interesting player from what I have heard. Which admitedly is not much. I'm listening to this live Gravity cut right now though, and I must say his playing is surprisingly good. And he knows how to play this music. Which surprises me even more, as I've always viewed him as pretty much a pop artist.

Jody LeCompte 06-10-2006 01:20 PM

John or Pino?

JohnXDoesn't 06-10-2006 01:37 PM

John Mayer. I know him from a few glimpses of video, maybe heard a song here and there. Have heard a bit of his guitsr playing. Thought he was an interesting musician but basically a pop artist and songwriter. Nothing wrong with that. That's fine. But I just like this so much better. I wouldn't care to listen to him before. But this is pretty good stuff.

Ephemeral 06-10-2006 02:10 PM

[QUOTE=JXD]Guitar over the head, amirite?[/QUOTE]
Didn't he punch out Daltry once, or am I thinking of something else?

JohnXDoesn't 06-10-2006 02:14 PM

It was usually the other way around. But I believe Pete did knock him cold with a guitar once.

Ephemeral 06-10-2006 02:16 PM

Ah, my mistake.

zabbit82 06-10-2006 02:24 PM

[QUOTE=JXD]John Mayer. I know him from a few glimpses of video, maybe heard a song here and there. Have heard a bit of his guitsr playing. Thought he was an interesting musician but basically a pop artist and songwriter. Nothing wrong with that. That's fine. But I just like this so much better. I wouldn't care to listen to him before. But this is pretty good stuff.[/QUOTE]
I know everyone's heard this, but the guy needs to shy away from the chick-pop mold he's come to be. Try! is an amazing record and if he were to do something like that again, I would definatly buy it, if not go to see him under that blues trio.

So its Roger punched out Pete, then Pete would bash the guitar on Roger, is that what I'm reading?

JohnXDoesn't 06-10-2006 06:57 PM

^Yeah, I was pretty impressed with that JMT album. I'll be listening some more.

And Roger and Pete would go at it sometimes. Pete usually with the mouth, from all accounts. Until Roger would get fed up and punch him out. But Pete would take to using his guitar as a weapon at times, for which Rog had no answer. Funny stuff. Can't imagine them fighting. Silly boys...

zabbit82 06-10-2006 07:01 PM

I kinda can, but I can't really imagine Roger punching Pete then Pete taking a guitar to him.

JohnXDoesn't 06-10-2006 08:17 PM

That's how I've always heard and read it. Some of the scuffles could be quite violent from what I understand. But perhaps like brothers fight. And fights always seem much worse then they really are. But they say Pete actually did crack a guitar on Roger a time or two. Hard to imagine, but I tend to beleive it. Pete is such a prissy boy....

zabbit82 06-10-2006 08:22 PM

But no worse than Noel and Liam Gallagher :lol:

Huh, I guess in a way, inner fighting brings out great music.

JohnXDoesn't 06-10-2006 09:06 PM

It sure does seem to. Ray Davies and Dave Davies from the Kinks are said to literally hate each other. That is kind of shocking. Fist fights, band break-ups, all that stuff just because those two can't be in the same room together. Everly Brothers as well. Do not or did not get along. And they performed very intimately with one another. So that's a head scratcher. John Fogerty and brother Tom. Same deal. Tension like that works in the favor of some artists, it seems. Against others. The Who were always a violent band onstage and in concert. The very sound is one of physical aggression. And busting things up early in their career. So I think the tension worked well with them. And John just [i]standing[/i] there while he laid down that kind if thunder. It was just perfect chemistry all around.

JohnXDoesn't 06-11-2006 01:20 PM

Hey Who people....

Rachel Fuller (Pete's girlfriend) will be broadcasting her web show "In The Attic" live from Who rehearsal this Tuesday at 7:00pm, UK time. Which is apparently 11:00am PST or 2:00pm EST, US. But I can't be sure, so check it out. I usually just tune in after the live broadcast sometime on Wendsday when they loop the show for 24hrs. Not sure if they are doing it this week. And according to Pete's site the new "mini opera" may be revealed for the first time. This is one of the last rehearsals before the tour kicks off on the 17th at Leeds University. So try to check it out. Also, the servers have been set up to handle 50,000 people because many of The Who's shows will be webcast. At a nominal charge, I believe. So getting a connection should not be a problem as it has been for some in the past. More info:

[url]http://www.petetownshend.co.uk/diary/display.cfm?id=299&zone=pr[/url]

wanderer 06-13-2006 02:32 PM

Has anyone else heared (do you wanna ?) Townshend doing acoustic (no band) versions of Psychoderelict songs in 1993 "Press show" show ?
Amazing show.

JohnXDoesn't 06-13-2006 08:50 PM

Didn't hear that, wanderer. I'm not quite sure what you are talking about....

Hey Who people. The Who have their webcast site up and running and they will be broadcasting three songs from the Leeds show June 17. Which is just around the corner. It will be broadcast after a special "In The Attic Show". More details can be found at the site, which is just up and running:

[url]http://thewholive.tv/frontdoor/[/url]

The charge is just 99 cents with all proceeds going to Pete's charity Double 'O. Registration and payment is through Paypal. Which makes it all very easy.

And if someone knows how to convert Brit time to American, if you take a look can you please tell me what time these broadcast are to take place? I have not registered yet (will later) and maybe the correct American time will be included. But maybe not. I've checked online, and it's all so confusing.

Anyway, get your "ticket" for this sure to be fantastic show as The Who return to Leeds University to kick off their brand new WORLD TOUR. It's sure to be exciting....

wanderer 06-14-2006 12:07 AM

Can you operate Rapidshare ? I send the adress ?
After hearing this I find it strange that when people claim it's not superb classic Townshend album

Ephemeral 06-14-2006 12:30 AM

Hmmm. Looks interesting, John.

JohnXDoesn't 06-14-2006 02:44 PM

Ok guys, the "In The Attic" loop is up at Pete's site. It showed three short excerpts of The Who performing three new songs in rehearsal and the songs sound good. Very exciting. One was a balled, another a mid-tempo number sung by Pete, and an up tempo number that sounded great. The performances were a little tentative it being a rehearsal, and Pete says they just did run through the entire "mini opera" a couple of days ago. But even with the somewhat poor webcast audio all sounds promising. The clips are just a couple minutes a peice so don't expect a lot, but it's enough to give hope of a good tour and some good records coming out.

The show is running in a loop for the next couple of days. Depending on when you catch it you'll have to sit through some other stuff that is somewhat hit and miss, and then you'll see the band in rehearsal with Pete joining the show afterward. Good enough way to spend part of an hour....

JohnXDoesn't 06-14-2006 08:37 PM

Hey. If a mod sees this I know this is a triple post, but this is a band thread that has not been real active lately and this can happen. And an edit above won't work because this is new stuff. So a bit of a bump might be in order, also. I've been banned twice recently in R&M just for posting, basically. I would like it to not happen again.


Hey guys. I'm happy to report these new songs are [I]good[/I]. I was mistaken when I said you only get to hear a small peice in the rehearsal footage. You get to hear quite a lot. Including an entire song.

The first one played is the least memorable. Don't know the titles. The second one, upon hearing it for the second time, is a good rock ballad of sorts, about the internet. It connects rock n roll dreams with it. Which may sound corny. But remember, this is Townshend. The man who brought you Tommy, and made it all work. Instead of "the interent" he calls it an "endless wire". Didn't get to hear the whole song, but it has those classic Roger/Pete vocals.

Next song, rock n roll wonder and mystery again. The struggle to make it, to dream. This song we get to hear all of. But to tell you the truth, I was too taken with the music to notice the lyrics. This is Townshend power chord stuff. Roger sounds great. The band is terrific. That's another thing. Even in reheasal they sound great. But you can tell it's a rehearsal. They are glancing at sheet music, holding back a little, maybe. But you can see they are ready to gig. They are fantastic. And from the sound of it, they believe they are The Who.

I don't want to overstate things. This is not a return to past glories or greatness. But it is The Who, believe it or not, and they have at least a few good new songs to prove it. And I'm happy to report Townshends pop sensibilities appear to be intact. I don't know what these songs will sound like on record. But if they were to play five new songs this good at any gig, no one would complain or leave their seats. So that's good news from The Who front. Tour starts Saturday.

rockinbass17 06-14-2006 09:46 PM

I'm glad the material sounds good. We all know Pete still has it in him.

Do we know who's playing bass for the tour?

JohnXDoesn't 06-14-2006 10:09 PM

Pino Palladino is playing once again. He's pretty much the perm bassist now. What's good I think is they just came out of the studio, all of them had been working on various projects before hand, and they just sound tight. Even Simon Townshend sounds pushed up in the mix as the new songs call for acoustic and electric guitar. He even plays mandolin on one track.

Again, I don't want to give raised expectations, and I've had the luxery of hearing these songs three times because of an apparent glitch at the site. And yeah, it's The Who. First time I listened I was just sort of "Hmm"? Because I was listening very closely. You know, it's exciting. I really couldn't come to a conclusion. But the last two times I listened, it's there. The songs are good, the band is good playing them. Can't deny it. The first song is ok good. The second song is good and rather short, as Pete explains later some tracks on the "mini opera" are less then two minutes long, as that's all that was called for in the context. Anyway, two minutes or not "Endless Wire", or whatever the hell it's called, is pretty much classic Townshend rock ballad and storytelling. And the last song is pretty much a Who rocker. It's lean, melodic, a bit pop, forceful, and contains a bit of musical twists and turns. Mostly it's a straight ahead rocker, though.

Being a fan for me it's just a relief to finally hear something and no matter what be able to think "that's a pretty good song". It certainly isn't bad.

Guitarist_ 06-15-2006 12:12 AM

i was about to buy The Who - Whos Next but i realised there is a deluxe version with a live performace of whos next live at the young vic?

is this live performance deluxe edition worth buying? is the live performance good? i know the original wont let me down but this costs alot more

wanderer 06-15-2006 01:20 AM

I have opposite reaction. It think the parts of new song they have played have to be worst stuff Pete has put out. Boring music, bad lyrics and boring production. Should have used outside producer but Pete's ego propably got in the way. Endless Wire was very enjoyable when he played it In The Attic show but way worse when they played on that rehearsal. Other new songs that has been played during In The Attic show had nice melodies/words so it's a shock how terrible Mirrod Door and rehearsal stuff was.

This record seems to bee fully Townshend solo record with Roger on vocals
and it doesn't work (at least on this new stuff ). I wouldn't hold my breath that rest of CD will be any better. This record could have been great 'Townshend record' but as 'Who' record it doesn't seem to work at all (at least this stuff doesn't).

Naturally waiting and hoping to be proveng wrong.

JohnXDoesn't 06-15-2006 04:17 AM

[QUOTE=Guitarist_]i was about to buy The Who - Whos Next but i realised there is a deluxe version with a live performace of whos next live at the young vic? is this live performance deluxe edition worth buying? is the live performance good? i know the original wont let me down but this costs alot more[/QUOTE]
Couldm't really tell you. I like the Young Yic performance. Although some of the songs they do from Who's Next sound tentative because they are still working them out for stage. Stll, for all that extra money (it is steep for an album) you can get a whole different Who record. Live or not. Are you buying a CD or downloading from a service? Because allofmp3.com has that version for pennies on the dollar. Also, I can upload the Young Vic gig for you. I think I offered before but you declined. Your call....

[QUOTE=wanderer]I have opposite reaction. It think the parts of new song they have played have to be worst stuff Pete has put out. Boring music, bad lyrics and boring production. Should have used outside producer but Pete's ego propably got in the way. Endless Wire was very enjoyable when he played it In The Attic show but way worse when they played on that rehearsal. Other new songs that has been played during In The Attic show had nice melodies/words so it's a shock how terrible Mirrod Door and rehearsal stuff was. This record seems to bee fully Townshend solo record with Roger on vocals and it doesn't work (at least on this new stuff ). I wouldn't hold my breath that rest of CD will be any better. This record could have been great 'Townshend record' but as 'Who' record it doesn't seem to work at all (at least this stuff doesn't).

Naturally waiting and hoping to be proveng wrong.[/QUOTE]
Hey man. Thanks for the Mayfair Hotel Townshend stuff. I just checked my mail an hour ago and have been listening. It really is very good. Can't thank you enough.....

And I couldn't disagree with you more about the new Who stuff. Which believe it or not I was able to catch again as soon as I woke up, as the loop was rolling around. I don't know what these songs sounded like with just Townshend doing them, but you say yourself they have "good words/melodies" and it "could have been a great Townshend record" perhaps. So now it'll be a good Who record, hopefully. And I think the band sounds good playing these songs. This is a good band. The songs should slide in nicely alongside the rest of the Who material onstage, IMO....


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