Maybe, but I'm trying to work with you guys here so that you can stop ****ing with me.

[QUOTE=Hbp;14897103]Maybe, but I'm trying to work with you guys here so that you can stop ****ing with me.[/QUOTE]

Then listen to real metalcore. Stop coming in here talking about "mathcore" and other such dumb sh[I]i[/I]t.

Who would you consider "real" metalcore then, Retired?

[quote=Hbp;14897319]Who would you consider "real" metalcore then, Retired?[/quote]


That's a subject of constant debate man. It always leads to hatred and bickering in R&M. I gave up a long time ago.

I think I will to. It's not really worth it. Can we just talk about anything metalcore, even "fake" metalcore?

Here's something interesting that will probably get me flamed to all hell. I just thought of this.


36 Crazyfists is metalcore, if you actually think about it. Hardcore+ metal influence=metalcore. But I never hear them called metalcore.


////two cents.

Well, Converge is Hardcore + Metal, but they definatly don't fit the mold of Metalcore, at least of Modern Day Metalcore.

I don't really think any band really does anymore, which causes all the arguement these days. So many bands have such a variety of influences that it's impossible for them to be put in a prior-defined category these days.


Could you imagine if I started calling my solo project "extreme symphonic blackened melodic grinded death"? See my point? lol


It's just easier to call it death metal. Just like it's easier to call some bands metalcore, until everybody throws a fit about it.

yeah, which is why I think it was kindof stupid to close my thread for just "Metal", seeing as defining every subgenre of metal (which I hate doing, for the most part) would take literally a year, and some threads might have only one band in it.

Yeah but you sound just as retarded calling it extreme symphonic blackened melodic grinded death as you do calling it death metal, because it's clearly not either.

Late, but for Hopesfall, you absolutely have to get No Wings To Speak Of. You're life isn't complete until you've heard that. The Frailty Of Words has some excellent parts throughout, but it's very amateur. Their latest albums are more space rock than post hardcore, they're kind of doing the whole Cave In thing. It's good stuff, but No Wings is just classic.

This thread shouldn't be closed, I like alot of this music and there's nowhere else to talk about it. It's great when Mappy, Justin, Concubine, I, and a few others are here.

Rorschach (early kickass metalcore)
Converge
Coalesce
Skycamefalling
Poison The Well (early stuff)
Botch
Kiss It Goodbye
Integrity

I don't really regard mathcore as a real genre, due to its sheer stupidity.

I love early Poison The Well at the moment. Them and Killswitch.

[QUOTE=Hbp;14897357]Well, Converge is Hardcore + Metal, but they definatly don't fit the mold of Metalcore, at least of Modern Day Metalcore.[/QUOTE]

You really are a f[I]u[/I]cking idiot.

Ok, I have P-Dubs, Converge, and Botch, so We've talked about both Botch and Convere, so let's discuss PTW.

[QUOTE=Frankie;14897640]I don't really regard mathcore as a real genre, due to its sheer stupidity.[/QUOTE]

This.

[QUOTE=Hbp;14897646]Ok, I have P-Dubs, Converge, and Botch, so We've talked about both Botch and Convere, so let's discuss PTW.[/QUOTE]

I only like their first album.

Integrity is the ****ing ****. Have you heard Those Who Fear Tomorrow yet?

[QUOTE=Nepenthe;14897659]Integrity is the ****ing ****. Have you heard Those Who Fear Tomorrow yet?[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I told someone awhile back to check that album out. [I]Humanity Is The Devil[/I] is pretty good, too.

I forgot to say the 15th anniversary rerelease. Yeah, Humanity is my second favorite from them. I've heard all the stuff before Humanity, but nothing from after it. Any of that material good?

[quote=Nepenthe;14897508]Yeah but you sound just as retarded calling it extreme symphonic blackened melodic grinded death as you do calling it death metal, because it's clearly not either.
.[/quote]


You're a fu[I]c[/I]king idiot.



What would you call it then? And if you tell me hardcore or some dumb ****, I'm going to have a brain hemorrhage.