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Malfeitor 07-18-2008 06:19 PM

yea whatever. but lol at the american nerd putting greek alphabet in his avatar trying to achieve the same as he accuses me of...

RouteOne 07-18-2008 06:19 PM

[QUOTE=Malfeitor;16500644]yea whatever. but lol at the american nerd putting greek alphabet in his avatar trying to achieve the same as he accuses me of...[/QUOTE]
its nordic runes you failure

RiceMonster 07-18-2008 06:20 PM

lol

Malfeitor 07-18-2008 06:24 PM

lol, i was tossing up between greek and russian... as if it matters though. my basic point was right, you're an american nerd putting european runes in your avatar trying to look grim

RouteOne 07-18-2008 06:26 PM

[QUOTE=Malfeitor;16500652]lol, i was tossing up between greek and russian... as if it matters though. my basic point was right, you're an american nerd putting european runes in your avatar trying to look grim[/QUOTE]

Or perhaps I have an interest in Germanic/Nordic culture since I'm a history major and I like myths

COULDN'T BE. You're right, I specifically put them in my avatar to look uB3R gri/\/\ on an internet forum cuz I cry myself to sleep every night if you guys don't think i'm down witt satan yooo

RouteOne 07-18-2008 06:31 PM

malf are you a satanist?

Dies Irae 07-18-2008 06:32 PM

he wuz tossin up between greek and russion yo, **** be played out liek mad

Malfeitor 07-18-2008 06:32 PM

[QUOTE=Mr. Ron;16500658]Or perhaps I have an interest in Germanic/Nordic culture since I'm a history major and I like myths

COULDN'T BE. You're right, I specifically put them in my avatar to look uB3R gri/\/\ on an internet forum cuz I cry myself to sleep every night if you guys don't think i'm down witt satan yooo[/QUOTE]

Yep, I am going with the second one. I'm doing the Chinese revolution but I'm not about to put Sun Yat-sen in my avatar...

Malfeitor 07-18-2008 06:32 PM

No Mr. Ron

RouteOne 07-18-2008 06:39 PM

[QUOTE=Malfeitor;16500665]Yep, I am going with the second one. I'm doing the Chinese revolution but I'm not about to put Sun Yat-sen in my avatar...[/QUOTE]

Malf if its anyone who's posing in this forum looking for attention its you. You moronically make statements like "burzum isn't bm" to sound edgy, thats all. If you can't see how bands like burzum are bm then you're lost and people will laugh at you.

I don't see how my avatar is am problem. You're just grasping for straws to sling mud in my direction.

Malfeitor 07-18-2008 06:57 PM

[QUOTE=Mr. Ron;16500676]Malf if its anyone who's posing in this forum looking for attention its you. You moronically make statements like "burzum isn't bm" to sound edgy, thats all. If you can't see how bands like burzum are bm then you're lost and people will laugh at you.

I don't see how my avatar is am problem. You're just grasping for straws to sling mud in my direction.[/QUOTE]

yea all i said really is that burzum dont live up to my own standards of black metal. my opinion on black metal is that norway hijacked the genre in its early days and changed the direction completely. canada, finland and to some degree america should have been the main 'scenes' not norway.

whether you want to look at that as me simply liking a completely different strain of black metal or look at it as i do as being the only real black metal, up to you and i dont care

Dies Irae 07-18-2008 06:58 PM

most norwegian bm is extremely gay

Malfeitor 07-18-2008 06:59 PM

yea Dies Irae thanks for that, maybe would've been news to me in 2003

Dies Irae 07-18-2008 07:01 PM

most norwegian bm is extremely gay.

Malfeitor 07-18-2008 07:03 PM

yea Dies Irae thanks for that, maybe would've been news to me in 2003.

RouteOne 07-18-2008 07:04 PM

[QUOTE=Malfeitor;16500688]yea all i said really is that burzum dont live up to my own standards of black metal. my opinion on black metal is that norway hijacked the genre in its early days and changed the direction completely. canada, finland and to some degree america should have been the main 'scenes' not norway.

whether you want to look at that as me simply liking a completely different strain of black metal or look at it as i do as being the only real black metal, up to you and i dont care[/QUOTE]
What a genre can't be hijacked. A genre is more or less a loose guideline on the elements that define the genre are. The major elements, anyways. Other than that deviation within a genre is good because it can improve on what the beginners of the genre started. I'm thankful there's different BM, it makes it more interesting.


what do you think [B]makes[/B] real black metal, specifically?

Dies Irae 07-18-2008 07:07 PM

most norwegian bm is extremely gay

Malfeitor 07-18-2008 07:07 PM

[QUOTE=Mr. Ron;16500697]What a genre can't be hijacked. A genre is more or less a loose guideline on the elements that define the genre are. The major elements, anyways. Other than that deviation within a genre is good because it can improve on what the beginners of the genre started. I'm thankful there's different BM, it makes it more interesting.


what do you think [B]makes[/B] real black metal, specifically?[/QUOTE]

no pretension, no bullshit, little melody, little to no catchiness, raw, violent, little to no emotion (emotion includes hate)

Dies Irae 07-18-2008 07:08 PM

most norwegian bm is extremely gay.

RouteOne 07-18-2008 07:10 PM

[QUOTE=Malfeitor;16500701]no pretension, no bullpoop, little melody, little to no catchiness, raw, violent, little to no emotion (emotion includes hate)[/QUOTE]

"Eliteness" is pretentious

"No bullpoop" is too vague

Theres a place for BM with little melody, I'll agree with that. But there is also a place for BM with some melody.


Catchiness is subjective.


raw is subjective so is violence


There's no possible way to make music without emotion.

Dies Irae 07-18-2008 07:11 PM

most norwegian bm is extremely gay_

Malfeitor 07-18-2008 07:16 PM

[QUOTE=Mr. Ron;16500705]"Eliteness" is pretentious

"No bullpoop" is too vague

Theres a place for BM with little melody, I'll agree with that. But there is also a place for BM with some melody.


Catchiness is subjective.


raw is subjective so is violence


There's no possible way to make music without emotion.[/QUOTE]

you dont really understand our elitism do you

i know what i mean by bullshit

the place for bm with loads of melody is another ****ing genre

catchiness not subjective, rawness not subjective, violence not subjective
i know what you mean about emotion, i mean as long as its not rampant teenage hormones dominating the music EG Xasthur, Burzum

RouteOne 07-18-2008 07:21 PM

[QUOTE=Malfeitor;16500714][B]you dont really understand our elitism do you[/B]

i know what i mean by bullpoop

the place for bm with loads of melody is another ****ing genre

catchiness not subjective, rawness not subjective, violence not subjective
i know what you mean about emotion, i mean as long as its not rampant teenage hormones dominating the music EG Xasthur, Burzum[/QUOTE]

uh oh pretentiousness! lol "our" elitism. lol lol lol


I'm glad you know what you mean by bullpoop but people with half a brain might want to know what you mean instead of using vague terms to describe your twisted logic


No, you said little to NO emotion. Don't backpedal now sweetie pie. I mean, you can't be that utterly dumb to think that music can't have any to even a little emotion. If you want to talk about teenage hormones find a mirror.

Dies Irae 07-18-2008 07:24 PM

most norwegian bm is extremely gay

RouteOne 07-18-2008 07:26 PM

I mean, you're talking about a genre that nostly wants the destruction of humanity, religion, western civilization and so on. There's no possible way that those desires and emotions can be presented with "little" emotion. All of those desires encompass some of the most powerful emotions a human could ever experiance.

Dies Irae 07-18-2008 07:27 PM

most norwegian bm is extremely gay.

Malfeitor 07-18-2008 07:31 PM

[QUOTE=Mr. Ron;16500720]uh oh pretentiousness! lol "our" elitism. lol lol lol


I'm glad you know what you mean by bullpoop but people with half a brain might want to know what you mean instead of using vague terms to describe your twisted logic


No, you said little to NO emotion. Don't backpedal now sweetie pie. I mean, you can't be that utterly dumb to think that music can't have any to even a little emotion. If you want to talk about teenage hormones find a mirror.[/QUOTE]

just saying our elitism to distinguish between that and say the kind of elitism youll find on slsk for example

and i dont really care to explain to people what i mean by bullshit

im not backpedalling

RouteOne 07-18-2008 07:36 PM

[QUOTE=Malfeitor;16500737]just saying our elitism to distinguish between that and say the kind of elitism youll find on slsk for example

and i dont really care to explain to people what i mean by bullpoop

im not backpedalling[/QUOTE]

lol who uses slsk anymore?


Oh and claiming to be "elite" is pretentious.


Just trying to point out that BM is one of the most emotionally dominated genres ever. It has to be to be true to their messages.

Pete 07-18-2008 07:53 PM

srsly, dont argue with mailfactor, h's listened to this music for 5+ years

notice the +

that could mean like 5 years and 8 months

mabye even 10 months

so plz dont question him

RiceMonster 07-18-2008 08:10 PM

[QUOTE=Malfeitor;16500714]i know what i mean by bullpoop[/QUOTE]

This man understands his own posts! Respect!


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