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MRDuCran 05-19-2006 04:56 PM

Well after hearing Tokyo Warhearts, I can never think he's got cleaner. Maybe on the albums he is obviously, but live, no way.

BlackFire, he IS an amazing guitarist, I'm not denying that, but his accuracy has decreased.

Shadows 05-19-2006 04:57 PM

He was flawless when I saw him several months ago.

I'm Charming 05-19-2006 05:04 PM

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]He was flawless when I saw him several months ago.[/QUOTE]


Same with when I saw him. Flawless.

With that said. I agree with Mitch on this one. He's gotten a lot worse.

The Buttloaves 05-19-2006 05:13 PM

On Tokyo Warhearts, listen to Towards Dead End, and at 2:32, I swear one of them hits the wrong powerchord :lol:

BlackFire_ 05-19-2006 05:14 PM

[QUOTE=MRDuCran]Well after hearing Tokyo Warhearts, I can never think he's got cleaner. Maybe on the albums he is obviously, but live, no way.

BlackFire, he IS an amazing guitarist, I'm not denying that, but his accuracy has decreased.[/QUOTE]

I see what youre saying. I think the has improved his accuracy slightly from his old stuff, but his old guitar work I think is better than his new work.

AA-12 05-19-2006 05:34 PM

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]That doesn't make any sense. :confused: Unless you're saying AYDY sounded exactly like their last albums.[/QUOTE]
After being a fan of AYDY, I realized that it is just stuff that's been done time and time again before.

Shadows 05-19-2006 05:51 PM

[QUOTE=I'm Charming]Same with when I saw him. Flawless.

With that said. I agree with Mitch on this one. He's gotten a lot worse.[/QUOTE]
That's the most contradicting oinion I've ever heard. :lol:

[QUOTE=Captain Frank Castle]After being a fan of AYDY, I realized that it is just stuff that's been done time and time again before.[/QUOTE]
By who? AYDY is one of the most unique albums I've ever heard short of pioneering a new genre.

got tool? 05-19-2006 06:13 PM

Yeah I'm kinda new to CoB...but so far I'm really liking sixpounder, warheart, downfall...and oops i did it again :lol:

I'm Charming 05-19-2006 06:26 PM

[QUOTE=got tool?]Yeah I'm kinda new to CoB...but so far I'm really liking sixpounder, warheart, downfall...and oops i did it again :lol:[/QUOTE]


Hey don't laugh. They made me enjoy that song. That speaks volumes.


@ Ben. No. It wasn't.

I said, he was flawless when I saw him. Including on WNGF solo.

If you watch live videos though or the AYDY licks video. Tell me those aren't sloppy.

Sleepy 05-19-2006 06:28 PM

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]
By who? AYDY is one of the most unique albums I've ever heard short of pioneering a new genre.[/QUOTE]

Pardon?

Bodom had something unique going with the sound they had pioneered up UNTIL AYDY. Then, Alexi's vocal style changed so that he sounds more like a Nu-Metal vocalist; torn between (horrid) singing and screaming. The addicting, neo-classical riffs gave way to lines that have been time and time again by American metal bands. The very fair lyrics became about as corny as DragonForce and Cannibal Corpse.

AYDY reminds me of every other NWOAHM band, with better guitar work and the addition of keyboards. Sorry if you, or anyone else, doesn't agree, but every time I force myself to listen to AYDY, I hear Alexi scream "Look at me, guys! I'm hXc!!!"

Shadows 05-19-2006 06:35 PM

[QUOTE=I'm Charming]I said, he was flawless when I saw him. Including on WNGF solo.

If you watch live videos though or the AYDY licks video. Tell me those aren't sloppy.[/QUOTE]
I've seen live videos. They aren't sloppy. His playing on the new albums isn't sloppy. His playing on Something Wild and, to a lesser degree, on Hatebreeder, was sloppy.

Shattered_Future 05-19-2006 06:47 PM

Actually, I don't think they sound much like American metal bands at all on this release. They just don't do anything to change their formula.

Shadows Within 05-19-2006 07:04 PM

I don't think they sound like American metal at all it's more agressive sure but the riffs are still pretty kick ***, and now i can understand (kinda) what hes saying now.

I'm Charming 05-19-2006 07:09 PM

I'm seriously sick of this input jack. It went out again. I open and of course the wire cut away from it's connection again. I'm thinking since a GOOD soldering job won't work. What will keep it on there and most of all lock that jack in place.

Any ideas.

encmetalhead 05-19-2006 07:11 PM

american metal aint close to finland metal yet

MRDuCran 05-19-2006 07:26 PM

Well said^^^.

encmetalhead 05-19-2006 07:37 PM

thank you thank you *bows then falls over* i knew i shouldnt have had that extra drink...

Moses 05-19-2006 07:38 PM

[QUOTE=victoryrecordsfan]american metal aint close to finland metal yet[/QUOTE]
Nevermore >>>> CoB

Shadows Within 05-19-2006 07:40 PM

[QUOTE=Moses]Nevermore >>>> CoB[/QUOTE]
oooo tough decision there....personally i like them both equally.

got tool? 05-19-2006 07:44 PM

[QUOTE=I'm Charming]Hey don't laugh. They made me enjoy that song. That speaks volumes. [/QUOTE]

Sorry man, didn't mean to offend or anything. I just thought that it was a pretty...[I]different[/I] song than what i was used to.

The next step: In Flames doing a cover of "Bootylicious". I'd listen to that.

encmetalhead 05-19-2006 07:46 PM

COB >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> s***>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>HIM

Shadows Within 05-19-2006 07:46 PM

I really, really, really wish COB would do a cover of Devil Went Down To Georgia.

JacksonRR3guy 05-19-2006 07:55 PM

ESP Alexi-600
 
I just put 50% down on the White with Black Pinstripe LTD Alexi-600.
The ESP version is the same except for the Gotoh replace the Grover tuners and it says "ESP" on it. Oh yeah and its about $4,000 dollars more than the LTD. Anyways im getting it from Sam Ash. HELL YEAH!

Shadows Within 05-19-2006 07:59 PM

Yeah my friend was telling me about the tuners yesterday...thats just retarted...

repcak 05-20-2006 04:32 AM

[QUOTE=FuryInArt]
AYDY reminds me of every other NWOAHM band, with better guitar work and the addition of keyboards. Sorry if you, or anyone else, doesn't agree, but every time I force myself to listen to AYDY, I hear Alexi scream "Look at me, guys! I'm hXc!!!"[/QUOTE]
i agree with you... in europe Cob has a big fanbase and they wanted to have this fanbase in the US too. so this is (imo) the reason why they tried hard to sound like an NWOAHM band :upset:

to the sloppy playing of Alexi: you have to consider than Alexi is sometimes drunk on stage. when i saw them live in vienna his playing was perfect, but after the show they all drunk a lot of wodka!! the next day my guitar-teacher saw them in linz and said that they made a lot of mistakes and played sloppy - after the show alexi asked for excuse.
so maybe alexi was drunk (the day before) and therefore he played sloppy at your show.

Shadows Within 05-20-2006 08:04 AM

[QUOTE=repcak]i agree with you... in europe Cob has a big fanbase and they wanted to have this fanbase in the US too. so this is (imo) the reason why they tried hard to sound like an NWOAHM band :upset:

to the sloppy playing of Alexi: you have to consider than Alexi is sometimes drunk on stage. when i saw them live in vienna his playing was perfect, but after the show they all drunk a lot of wodka!! the next day my guitar-teacher saw them in linz and said that they made a lot of mistakes and played sloppy - after the show alexi asked for excuse.
so maybe alexi was drunk (the day before) and therefore he played sloppy at your show.[/QUOTE]
Yeah i dunno if they where drunk at my show or not he played pretty well but he looked beat to **** after the show I dunno if he was just tired or if he was drunk.

chorbalan 05-20-2006 11:06 AM

[QUOTE=JacksonRR3guy]I just put 50% down on the White with Black Pinstripe LTD Alexi-600.
The ESP version is the same except for the Gotoh replace the Grover tuners and it says "ESP" on it. Oh yeah and its about $4,000 dollars more than the LTD. Anyways im getting it from Sam Ash. HELL YEAH![/QUOTE]

How much is the one you're getting.
Oh, and where are you buying it from (meaning what city you're from etc)

MRDuCran 05-20-2006 04:29 PM

None of Cob are drunk on stage. Alexi says he may have one drink before but he's never going to get trashed because then it would make him suck, and obviously he doesn't want that. And neither do we.

repcak 05-20-2006 04:37 PM

yes, but when he drunk the day before he can have a hangover the next day ... and this is even worse than being drunk.

MRDuCran 05-20-2006 05:25 PM

That's a good point. I didn't really consider that, but at least he garantees he doesn't do it directly before.

Shattered_Future 05-20-2006 07:01 PM

Oh man, that reminds me of this Sonata Arctica DVD I have...

"We played sober before, but we realized...we SUCK when we're sober. So we go back to playing the old way." *picks up bottle of vodka*

into the moat 05-21-2006 12:49 AM

whats the keyboardists name, hes really good. is that common in slovick metal
?

Drunken Viking 05-21-2006 12:51 AM

Janne.

Battle Against Time 05-21-2006 01:03 AM

[QUOTE=into the moat]whats the keyboardists name, hes really good. is that common in slovick metal
?[/QUOTE]


CoB is finnish. I think that region is refered to as, [i]scandanavian[/i] though.

repcak 05-21-2006 02:39 PM

@MRDuCran: i downloaded Powertab and your exercises... thanks a lot.

edit:
the first shape you write is Major D:
15-12
-------13
----------12

notes: E,G,C

thats not major D (not even a major) or do you have another tuning on your guitar? i'm a little bit confused

GenuineImitation 05-21-2006 02:55 PM

Was Dylan banned again?

Drunken Viking 05-21-2006 03:23 PM

Not that I know of, that name was just already in his auto login thing, and he's a lazy as[size=2]s[/size], so...

Battle Against Time 05-21-2006 03:24 PM

[QUOTE=Drunken Viking]Not that I know of, that name was just already in his auto login thing, and he's a lazy as[size=2]s[/size], so...[/QUOTE]


Not banned. lollercaust.


Just to lazy to sign in on my laptop as Charming. Yup.

repcak 05-21-2006 03:32 PM

one more question to sweeping:

you, Mitch are doing it the way and Troy Stetina too.
when you have a sweep f.e.:

15p12---------12
-------13---13
----------12
u-----u--d--d--d

your sweeping is up, up, down, down, down; but i play u,u,u,d,d - is this wrong or should i play as i played before, or shall i re-learn it?

Drunken Viking 05-21-2006 03:40 PM

[QUOTE=Battle Against Time]Not banned. lollercaust.


Just to lazy to sign in on my laptop as Charming. Yup.[/QUOTE]
The message I'm getting is you're not man enough to sign in as I'm Charming. :rolleyes:


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