mxtabs sucked though.

and i don't play an instrument and resent your assumption that it makes me unqualified.

[QUOTE]There are bands I would add and albums i would review if I thought more than 10 people might check them out.[/QUOTE]
Your ego rules.

I don't like reviewing music. I'd rather just have someone who I know has a good taste in music say that it's good or not.

/Iuseratingsratherthanreviews


and yeah, mxtabs sucked; being a musician has nothing to do with understanding music.

[QUOTE]being a musician has nothing to do with understanding music.[/QUOTE]
Case in point: anything Nick Greer writes.

[QUOTE=Cocaine;17980648]Case in point: anything Nick Greer writes.[/QUOTE]

explain?


another example of that would be if every musician understood music, there would be no bad music

[QUOTE=Cocaine;17980644]mxtabs sucked though.

and i don't play an instrument and resent your assumption that it makes me unqualified.


[B]Your ego rules[/B].[/QUOTE]

Think that's an unfair comment dude.

I'm considering reviewing some classic 90's metalcore, like chokehold etc, but I guarantee most people won't read them. So really in trying to suggest and be constructive it won't work.

Unless you're on the staff.

i used to write reviews but then i stopped and now life is awesome

[QUOTE]Think that's an unfair comment dude[/QUOTE]
No it isn't. Saying you want to expose people to new music but aren't willing to put out the effort because you're self-conscious about people reading it is ridiculous. My last few track of the day posts have gone virtually unnoticed, but that doesn't mean I'll stop.

[QUOTE]I'm considering reviewing some classic 90's metalcore, like chokehold etc, but I guarantee most people won't read them. So really in trying to suggest and be constructive it won't work.[/QUOTE]
That's not true, people on that site generally read anything that hits the metal page.

[QUOTE]explain?[/QUOTE]
His reviews are so longwinded and technical and confusing that I'm never sure what he's talking about.

[QUOTE=lim;17980653]i used to write reviews but then i stopped and now life is awesome[/QUOTE]

where is the blog you post on now?

[quote]His reviews are so longwinded and technical and confusing that I'm never sure what he's talking about.[/quote]

same, I just thought you were saying you thought he knew what he was talking about. he just goes on about random **** that no one should really care about and just alludes to what the music is.

reviewing can be fun tbh

im arrogant enough that i dont listen to any criticism but im also a decent writer so it works out

Well when I have some time off after my exams I might give it a shot.

[QUOTE=Cocaine;17980648]Case in point: anything Nick Greer writes.[/QUOTE]

:lol:

I understand what he's saying, I just think he's wrong 95% of the time.

As Cities Burn = Underoath + Shai Hulud?

As The Sun Sets = emo that's rooted in grind/indie/metalcore/dance but eclectic?

Seriously?

[QUOTE]im arrogant enough that i dont listen to any criticism but im also a decent writer so it works out[/QUOTE]
Lame.

Anyways guys,

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what's up?

he tries to sound as if he's obtained some arcane knowledge from the music

I did get some good albums from his blog, though

Eh, being a musician has everything to do with understanding music depending what you're looking for. I mean from artistic side of things, and in terms of having a vast knowledge base of other material to help put albums in context, for sure being a musician doesn't mean anything. But as a musician, I'd be interested in actually hearing a more technical and theoretical breakdown of the composition and production on some albums where it would make sense, and for that you have to talk to other musicians, or I guess talk to someone who's studied music in some capacity even if they don't play an instrument.

And I agree with 2muchket!, it's not an issue of ego. Sure, whatever you write as a Staff reviewer gets checked out and listened to, but that isn't going to be the case for the rest of us. It's more an issue of, is it worth spending my very scarce free time and energy writing a review if I don't think it's going to get read anyways.

[QUOTE=P13;17980655]where is the blog you post on now?[/quote]

uh i made a new one its http://fagjazz.blogspot.com

i also post on http://charles1488.blogspot.com

[QUOTE=Itwasthatwas;17980674]Eh, being a musician has everything to do with understanding music depending what you're looking for. I mean from artistic side of things, and in terms of having a vast knowledge base of other material to help put albums in context, for sure being a musician doesn't mean anything. But as a musician, I'd be interested in actually hearing a more technical and theoretical breakdown of the composition and production on some albums where it would make sense, and for that you have to talk to other musicians, or I guess talk to someone who's studied music in some capacity even if they don't play an instrument.
[/QUOTE]

It still has nothing to do with understanding or appreciating music. You're talking about music theory.

then again ive also never gotten any serious criticism on any of my 9 or so reviews

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[QUOTE=Itwasthatwas;17980674]Eh, being a musician has everything to do with understanding music depending what you're looking for. I mean from artistic side of things, and in terms of having a vast knowledge base of other material to help put albums in context, for sure being a musician doesn't mean anything. But as a musician, I'd be interested in actually hearing a more technical and theoretical breakdown of the composition and production on some albums where it would make sense, and for that you have to talk to other musicians, or I guess talk to someone who's studied music in some capacity even if they don't play an instrument.

And I agree with 2muchket!, it's not an issue of ego. Sure, whatever you write as a Staff reviewer gets checked out and listened to, but that isn't going to be the case for the rest of us. It's more an issue of, is it worth spending my very scarce free time and energy writing a review if I don't think it's going to get read anyways.[/QUOTE]

Pretty long-winded way of saying you're too scared to write anything but don't mind slagging off people who do.

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:lol: what the ****

awkward pop classic

[QUOTE=P13;17980677]It still has nothing to do with understanding or appreciating music. You're talking about music theory.[/QUOTE]

I don't see how music theory isn't part of appreciating music? For example I listen to jazz and fusion mainly to be amazed by some of the theoretical ideas I personally wouldn't be able to come up with.

I don't play an instrument but I frequently use technical terms and **** like that to explain things. Just because I can't play it doesn't mean I can't explain it, and ultimately it's about briefly summarizing and then assigning worth or value, but giving a step-by-step run-through of the entire album.

[QUOTE=P13;17980673]he tries to sound as if he's obtained some arcane knowledge from the music

I did get some good albums from his blog, though[/QUOTE]

:lol:

I just don't like how he can't grasp subjectivity, when he spends so much time nerding it up about music.

[QUOTE=Itwasthatwas;17980687]I don't see how music theory isn't part of appreciating music? For example I listen to jazz and fusion mainly to be amazed by some of the theoretical ideas I personally wouldn't be able to come up with.[/QUOTE]

you're implying someone can't completely enjoy jazz or fusion without a knowledge of music theory, which is wrong. Knowing what key the music is in, or what the time signatures are, or what modes they switch between has nothing to do with what the artist is trying to do, and if they are just trying to be technical then the music is lifeless.

Knowing the history of an album will give a richer experience of the album than knowing the theoretical structure of the album

[QUOTE=Cocaine;17980681]Pretty long-winded way of saying you're too scared to write anything but don't mind slagging off people who do.[/QUOTE]

wow, that's what you got out of that? are you that bad a reader?

And it is possible to be able to identify techniques and signatures without being able to play them.

[QUOTE]
wow, that's what you got out of that? are you that bad a reader?[/QUOTE]
He didn't have to say it to say it. He's saying he doesn't want to write anything because nobody will read it, and he's also saying that you have to be able to play something to understand it. Regardless of what he's talking about, his initial point was that he doesn't want to write anything because he doesn't think anyone will read it.

[QUOTE=witchxrapist;17980690]:lol:

I just don't like how he can't grasp subjectivity, when he spends so much time nerding it up about music.[/QUOTE]

bro you just dont get it when they subtly shift from G aeolian to C# phyrgian okay? not only that but a back and forth between 11/8 and 7/4

you mean PHRYGIAN

GOD

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[QUOTE=Cocaine;17980681]Pretty long-winded way of saying you're too scared to write anything but don't mind slagging off people who do.[/QUOTE]

What, my 4 lines of excuse-making at the end? I'm busy and I'm selfish, I admit it completely. And I don't know what impression I've given here, but my problem is more with the community anyways; I enjoy reading the reviews by most of the staff and some more eloquent users to hear their perspectives on things, that's why I still occasionally show up here, but the majority of the community is pretty stupid.

[I]the tall peoples want what the shots peoples got
the shots peoples want what the tall peoples got[/I]

[QUOTE=Cocaine;17980696]And it is possible to be able to identify techniques and signatures without being able to play them.


He didn't have to say it to say it. He's saying he doesn't want to write anything because nobody will read it, and he's also saying that you have to be able to play something to understand it. Regardless of what he's talking about, his initial point was that he doesn't want to write anything because he doesn't think anyone will read it.[/QUOTE]

Dood I just think if it's a question of whether or not I should waste my time on something people probably won't read anyway on this little tiny corner of the internet, that is not the same thing as 'I am scared of writing.' Pretty disingenuous interpretation if you ask me.

And for the record, on the topic of technicality and theory, you certainly don't need to be a musician to appreciate or to review. In my opinion knowing the theory sometimes helps, and sometimes it gets in the way of your ability to appreciate.

im 2 busy to write reviews but il post about it lok at meee

[QUOTE=lim;17980700]philosphy [IMG]http://sputnikmusic.com/forums/image.php?u=436360&dateline=1273698386[/IMG] major [IMG]http://sputnikmusic.com/forums/image.php?u=436360&dateline=1273698386[/IMG] correcting [IMG]http://sputnikmusic.com/forums/image.php?u=436360&dateline=1273698386[/IMG] me [IMG]http://sputnikmusic.com/forums/image.php?u=436360&dateline=1273698386[/IMG] on speling[/QUOTE]

aw you remembered <3

[QUOTE=Apoc;17980706]
And for the record, on the topic of technicality and theory, you certainly don't need to be a musician to appreciate or to review. In my opinion knowing the theory sometimes helps, and sometimes it gets in the way of your ability to appreciate.[/QUOTE]

yeah
[SIZE="1"]if you're stupid[/SIZE]


holy **** elim this is so awkward

[QUOTE]Dood I just think if it's a question of whether or not I should waste my time on something people probably won't read anyway on this little tiny corner of the internet, that is not the same thing as 'I am scared of writing.' Pretty disingenuous interpretation if you ask me.
[/QUOTE]
People will read it. And it's surprisingly not a tiny corner at this point, this review site gets over 20,000 unique visitors a day. Don't ask me how though.

Tyler - fair enough lol, but then the question becomes whether or not I should be spending my time writing a review that the [i]sputnik review site[/i] community will probably read.

[QUOTE=Cocaine;17980712]People will read it. And it's surprisingly not a tiny corner at this point, this review site gets over 20,000 unique visitors a day. Don't ask me how though.[/QUOTE]

is that a lot then

[QUOTE=Apoc;17980716]Tyler - fair enough lol, but then the question becomes whether or not I should be spending my time writing a review that the [i]sputnik review site[/i] community will probably read.[/QUOTE]

Well are you writing for them or for you? I started doing it because it was a way to work on my writing and do it with **** I was interested in.

[QUOTE=2muchket!;17980719]is that a lot then[/QUOTE]

yeah, it's weird.