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Apocalyptic Raids 05-16-2006 09:38 AM

Lake Bodom and Red Light In My Eyes Pt. 1 ftw

Nepenthe 05-16-2006 01:54 PM

I just listened to an Inearthed demo, and you know what? I think I actually like that stuff better than the CoB material.

repcak 05-16-2006 02:03 PM

hey, i'm back again :D

my cpu-cooler crashed and i couldn't get a new one ... it took my whole 2days to get a one ... but now i'm back. so i couldn't record me playing kalmah - swamphell as i promised and this weekend i travel home to my parents... so in two weeks sometime.


but tell me, did i missed anything? whats going on on the Cob-thread? any new rumours? :p

AA-12 05-16-2006 02:07 PM

[QUOTE=Quorthonace]I just listened to an Inearthed demo, and you know what? I think I actually like that stuff better than the CoB material.[/QUOTE]
Inearthed is a million times better IMO too.

repcak 05-16-2006 03:33 PM

hm... i just realized that there weren't much discussions while i was off.

and i agree with MRDuCran about playing correctly and perfect ... but we'll se how i will do with swamphell :p don't expect too much :/
i haven't practised much in the last few days -> university, computer, friends .... no time

[QUOTE=MRDuCran]
Silent Night, Bodom Night, everyone picks that intro bit with tremelo pickign when in fact it's controlled triplets, same with the lead part on the high E string, and the
sweeping bit after, ugh.
[/QUOTE]
my guitar teacher told me that its played in double-triplets (sixths? - i don't know how to say it).

once again EDIT:

[URL="http://youtube.com/watch?v=6G-TsPENqXM&search=jani%20liimatainen"]jani liimatainen (Young Guitar)[/URL]
this video is amazing... the sweeping part, the moves, everthing perfect O.o

MRDuCran 05-16-2006 06:10 PM

[QUOTE=repcak]hm... i just realized that there weren't much discussions while i was off.

and i agree with MRDuCran about playing correctly and perfect ... but we'll se how i will do with swamphell :p don't expect too much :/
i haven't practised much in the last few days -> university, computer, friends .... no time


my guitar teacher told me that its played in double-triplets (sixths? - i don't know how to say it).

once again EDIT:

[URL="http://youtube.com/watch?v=6G-TsPENqXM&search=jani%20liimatainen"]jani liimatainen (Young Guitar)[/URL]
this video is amazing... the sweeping part, the moves, everthing perfect O.o[/QUOTE]


Hey bitches, new FUKKING computer.

You're teacher may think it's at 110ish and playing in sextuplets, which is the 6 note per beat thing you're talkign about. The overall feel of the song would indicate it's around 220, so 3 notes per beat would be more accurate tbh. Both are correct as long as you use the right tempos with each.

I have that video by Jani, he's pretty good but I hate his tone.
I have the tabs too if anyone wants.

AA-12 05-16-2006 06:36 PM

He has my dream tone :-\ Haha.

I'll take the tab [email]JSevered013@gmail.com[/email]

MRDuCran 05-16-2006 06:56 PM

If I forget, I might need some reminding, it's on my old hard drive (4GB lawl) so when it all gets transferred, I'll send it out.

Actually, you might be able to find it on ultimate-guitar.com.

MRDuCran 05-16-2006 07:55 PM

[url]http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/tabs/s/sonata_arctica/janis_demonstration_guitar_pro.htm[/url]

I'm feeling generous.

DaBuddah 05-17-2006 11:34 AM

i havent heard much of there stuff but the songs that i did hear were preaty killer:chug:

thatscooliguess 05-17-2006 11:35 AM

ok.... i didnt get into bodom until last saturday.... im glad to see a post about em up here..... i have four of their songs burnt to a cd... Children of decadance (which im learning on bass) kissing the shadows, bed of razors and sixpounder..... amazing band.... Alexi Liho is crazy! possibly the best music ive heard in a loong time!

by the way, does anyone imagine pirates when you hear bed of razors?

MRDuCran 05-17-2006 12:32 PM

You have some pretty good songs there!

I think BoR is pretty piratey too.

Also, I am currently downloading Tokyo Warhearts. I will soon have Nosturi too. Yes, Dylan, we all know you have it on DVD, but soon, so shall I. :)

repcak 05-17-2006 02:50 PM

if you have something like that:

12-10-8
do you play it with your index, middlefinger and pinky
or do you play it with your index, ringfinger and pinky?

kurrpt 05-17-2006 02:52 PM

i play it both ways repcak. You'll find times where its advantageous to do it either way, or the other depending on whats coming up next


i tend to favor the 1 2 4 fretting (index middle, pinky

repcak 05-17-2006 03:03 PM

thats what i prefer too ... but then my stretch between 1 and 2 is a little bit problematic... only some millimeters, but i have to work on it ;)

The Buttloaves 05-17-2006 05:56 PM

I just recorded this. It has nothing to do with COB but people actually read this thread. Just tell me what you think so far, it's not done.
[url]http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=540235[/url]

I'm Charming 05-17-2006 06:17 PM

[QUOTE=FuryInArt]Well I naturally wouldn't have believed him, either.

But he ranted about it FOREVER. I buy it.[/QUOTE]


Fixed it last night. When the input jack gets loose, I'd tighten it. I didn't realize that I was twisting one of the wires. To make a long story short. My bro soldered it and I'm rolling.

MRDuCran 05-17-2006 07:24 PM

So you can record the intro solo to Needled 24/7 now?

MRDuCran 05-17-2006 07:25 PM

[QUOTE=The Buttloaves]I just recorded this. It has nothing to do with COB but people actually read this thread. Just tell me what you think so far, it's not done.
[url]http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=540235[/url][/QUOTE]

Wasn't too bad man.

The rhythm tone's pretty beefy, and that first whammy bar raise was cool.
Liked the last riff best though.

The Buttloaves 05-17-2006 07:29 PM

Yeah, I don't have much tonal range. I record directly through a Boss ME-50 on the "Loud" pedal option. I don't really know how to mix much, especially with audacity. And as you can hear, I'm not a very good lead player but I wanted to throw something in there, so I figured I'd just wank something on the whammy bar.

I'm Charming 05-17-2006 07:43 PM

[QUOTE=MRDuCran]So you can record the intro solo to Needled 24/7 now?[/QUOTE]


I did mention [b]when I've practiced it a lot[/b]. Which I have not recently. I havn't played any part of that song in like 1 month?

repcak 05-18-2006 02:16 PM

CoB thread is dying since last week... why? we need a good discussion... any suggestion? maybe we can start to make a Cob-competition or something like that... hm....

The Masked Guitarist 05-18-2006 02:20 PM

um ....... converstaion ............
uhggg *swears under breath* favorite CoB cd ........
ummm * *again swears ** ........ favorite band member .....

MRDuCran 05-18-2006 02:35 PM

lol. Been done TOOOOO many times.

Repcak, what kind of competition do you have in mind?

Moses 05-18-2006 02:47 PM

I'll play keys if anyone wants to do a cover of Kissing the Shadows.

MRDuCran 05-18-2006 02:56 PM

Can you play like Janne?

repcak 05-18-2006 03:13 PM

hm... i thought that everyone could record a small part of a bodom song and then we could put it together.

Sleepy 05-18-2006 03:13 PM

[QUOTE=MRDuCran]Can you play like Janne?[/QUOTE]

You mean drinking a beer while playing Lake Bodom?

EDIT: @ repcak

I'm a bassist.

repcak 05-18-2006 03:32 PM

when i try to record something through my mic i hear noise and in the background my guitar... what do i have to do to eleminate the noise?

edit: don't mind

MRDuCran 05-18-2006 03:41 PM

[QUOTE=FuryInArt]You mean drinking a beer while playing Lake Bodom with one hand?
[/QUOTE]

Fix'd.

repcak 05-18-2006 04:05 PM

i try to record kalmah swamhell at 80bpm for you, but it seems that i'm too nervous ... i make mistakes all the time... hm... lets see if i will record it today, or next week.
the only problem is that its very quiet, although i tried to put it louder through the program, but its still very quiet...

repcak 05-18-2006 04:42 PM

so i recorded it with Kristal Audio Engine but i just don't know how to convert it into *.wav or *.mp3 :confused:

edit: i've got it :D

upload in some minutes

repcak 05-18-2006 04:53 PM

[B][U]Kalmah - Swamphell together with Symphony X - Inferno (Unleash the Fire)[/U][/B]

[URL="http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a0403759/swamphell_inferno.mp3"]Swamphell & Inferno (Unleash the fire)[/URL]

at the beginning i made a mistake and the funny thing is, that (imo) the intro of inferno is better played than kalmah... though i practise kalmah more often and longer than inferno :p

MRDuCran 05-18-2006 05:02 PM

Are you having more left hand or right hand troubles??

If it's left (fretting), then you should slow it down and alternate pick every note just for the time being and concentrate on getting all the notes sounding good.

If it's right (picking), practise a few more sweep picking exercises to get a better flow.

repcak 05-18-2006 05:12 PM

both ... i have some problems with sweeping (right hand), because its the first song i learnt which have sweeps.
and left hand.... the intro (because of the big finger-stretch) and pinky on the low e-string... it seems as i hammer on the string, instead of playing it...


the other thing is... i was nervous; and when i made a mistake i had to begin once again... so this was maybe my 100x take. i travel home tomorrow and i hope i will have more time next weekend. then i will try to re-record it.

MRDuCran 05-18-2006 06:11 PM

First song with sweeping!?!

Damn man, if it was me, I'd stop playing that song, practise THE very basic shapes over and over with a metronome like you're doing so as I said, it will improve the smoothness and flow of your picking. Then go back to it a few months later and you'll probably find it's automatically much easier. Maybe a bit of scale stuff too if you find that stretch difficult. You know, 1234 chromatic crap, and (124)(134)(123)(135) etc on every string.

I just found out that I can play some Paul Gilbert lick about 20 bpm faster than I could since the last time I tried, and it doesn't even seem hard at this speed, so this method definately works for me at least.

*I think* when people spend ages on just one lick or song (i.e Scarified, Speed Kills etc), and are determined to get it up to speed in a week, it makes it sloppier because they feel they have a time limit so they rush. Speed shouldn't be your goal (well, in the end it will be) but accuracy should always come first. Don't worry about recording it if YOU are not ready, don't put unnecessary pressure on yourself man.

repcak 05-18-2006 07:21 PM

it was the first song with sweeping, true. this song was the reason why i started to learn sweeping, but how you said, i haven't practise them a lot.
i have now troy stetinas "Speed Mechanics for Lead Guitar" and his exercises are great! i will now start to learn the sweeping exercises from his book.

speed/accuracy: since the last discussions with you and Kurrpt i realized that you are right and i stopped to look at speed anymore, though its more frustrating :p about

kalmah: today i played it for the first time at 80bpm perfectly, but when i started to record it, i got nervous. now after the recording, i realized that i was sloppy and now i think i will slow down once again and analyse the moves more exactly.

time limits: my time limit was to record kalmah at 110bpm in summer... at first i thought i will reach the goal, but how you remember, i once have to relearn the whole song, because i made always the same mistake. therefore it took me longer. after this record i know i won't be able to record it until june (one of the reason is, that i won't have enough time for playing guitar, cause of university) - but i think its realistic to reach my goal sometime in summer... july/august/ at least in september ;)

ps.: the record was made with a headset-mic and with a bad amp-setting (distortion, etc.) + bad guitar-pick ups.

MRDuCran 05-18-2006 08:17 PM

I've heard good things about that book, but imo, half of the accuracy/skill increase isn't jsut the exercise, it's the WAY you practise that exercise. I mean it is pretty point less to have 235 sweep picking exercises because they ALL involve the sweeping motion, the only difference is where you put your fretting fingers, and if you need to concentrate on that, then the focus on the flow of the right hand will diminish. If you need all the basic shaps to practise, let me know. Since Swamphell is has a 4 string, you should practise 3 and 4. 5 *might* be a bit too much, 6 will be.

Kurupt and I both have the same thoughts about speed/accuracy. Except he's probably more strict, I sometimes just go "ahh bugger it, I can't play it that well at this speed but I'm going to increase anyway". Not good!

I'd say if you started practising sweep motion, you'll have this down by September.

How long have you been playing?

Moses 05-18-2006 08:32 PM

[QUOTE=MRDuCran]Can you play like Janne?[/QUOTE]
Yeah. He's not that great. I learn stuff like Chopin and Chick Corea, so Janne's stuff isn't that hard.

MRDuCran 05-18-2006 09:25 PM

Sh!t, can you record something, that'd be amazing.


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