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Lunch 08-30-2006 05:12 PM

[QUOTE=Seafroggys]I think John is my favorite member, actually. I'm a drummer, and Keith Moon is my favorite drummer, so you would think using basic logic that he would be my favoirte of the Who. Not true. I like John more :D[/QUOTE]

Same exact thing with me. John is just so cool.

[QUOTE=robo2448]Maybe they just thought they could never replicate the live power of it in the studio. And they wouldn't have been able to.[/QUOTE]

Yea, Heaven and Hell relied so much on the energy of the band live, it wouldn't translate well to the studio. The Who's Missing version is unimpressive, and although John's anthology is very good, his solo version doesn't hold a candle to the Leeds version either.

I'm The Face 08-30-2006 05:31 PM

I love John, but never got into his solo material. Rigor Mortis was "OK". Not as bad as Keith Moon's solo album, and certainly not as bad as anything Daltrey has done! Only Pete's solo work has stood up to anything the Who has done. Still missing a lot of Pete's albums though...

Who Came First - classic in every way
Rough Mix - superb! Love Ronnie's Lane's stuff.
Empty Glass - cheesy at parts, overall quite excellent
Chinese Eyes - different, but still quite good. Slit Skirts is ace.
White City - OK... 2 good songs, a lot of filler. Face the Face blows.
Psychoderelict - all around unimpressive, but the non-narrative version is listenable but forgetable.
Lifehouse Chronicles - I prefer my homemade Lifehouse mix, the way the Who should have done it.

Lunch 08-30-2006 05:57 PM

John has some good stuff, like My Size.

Seafroggys 08-30-2006 08:04 PM

i love the song Horror Rock. Now that was some cool John solo work! :thumb:

fwqhgads ² 08-30-2006 08:38 PM

I've always loved "Boris The Spider" because of the bass.

rockinbass17 08-30-2006 09:21 PM

That's such a fun song. I love singing along to the "creepy-crawly" part.

John made some good contributions to The Who's repitoire. "Trick of the Light" is one often overlooked.

wanderer 08-31-2006 01:55 AM

[QUOTE=I'm The Face].
Psychoderelict - all around unimpressive, but the non-narrative version is listenable but forgetable.
[/QUOTE]

Couldn't be more untrue... amazing tunes on that record, just get 1993 Mayfair Hotel show where he plays songs with just acoustic guitar. Songs are truely brilliant. In fact, you really realise how great songs they are everytime Pete plays them as solo acoustic versions.

fwqhgads ² 08-31-2006 12:25 PM

[QUOTE=rockinbass17]That's such a fun song. I love singing along to the "creepy-crawly" part.[/QUOTE]
It was my favorite song of their's when I was little.

I've always loved "Pictures Of Lilly" as well.

Man, they made so much good music. It blows me away all the time.

see spot run 08-31-2006 01:07 PM

Damn, that was really long. But very good. The Who is a great band, hands, frikkin, down.

fwqhgads ² 08-31-2006 01:53 PM

It's quite interesting seeing all of these newer members come into this thread all at once. :p

Welcome to the forums, and thread. :)

Sunny Afternoon 08-31-2006 01:57 PM

Cool, man.

Lunch 08-31-2006 02:19 PM

I liked A Quick One and Sell Out a lot when I was younger. And of course Tommy.

JohnXDoesn't 08-31-2006 03:42 PM

[QUOTE=Seafroggys]I think John is my favorite member, actually. I'm a drummer, and Keith Moon is my favorite drummer, so you would think using basic logic that he would be my favoirte of the Who. Not true. I like John more.[/QUOTE]
It's always been Pete for me. No matter what. He is just so awesome as a songwriter, guitar player, and performer. I just can't say enough about the old guy.
[QUOTE=I'm The Face]I love John, but never got into his solo material. Rigor Mortis was "OK". Not as bad as Keith Moon's solo album, and certainly not as bad as anything Daltrey has done! Only Pete's solo work has stood up to anything the Who has done. Still missing a lot of Pete's albums though...

Who Came First - classic in every way
Rough Mix - superb! Love Ronnie's Lane's stuff.
Empty Glass - cheesy at parts, overall quite excellent
Chinese Eyes - different, but still quite good. Slit Skirts is ace.
White City - OK... 2 good songs, a lot of filler. Face the Face blows.
Psychoderelict - all around unimpressive, but the non-narrative version is listenable but forgetable.
Lifehouse Chronicles - I prefer my homemade Lifehouse mix, the way the Who should have done it.[/QUOTE]
I like all this stuff. I don't see where Empty Glass was cheesy, though. Keep On Working, yeah. A bit eccentric. I am an animal, the same. But not as much. And I like the big musical flourishes he put in that. Chinese Eyes is one of my fave albums ever. A real Townshend classic, IMO. I love everything about that album. White City. Eh, a bit stuck in the eighties. But some great songs on there nonetheless. Hiding Out and Brilliant Blues come to mind. White City Fighting, Second Hand Love. Psychoderelict, meh. Pete at his most pretentious. Except for The Iron Man, perhaps. But as user Wanderer said the songs stripped bare are much better.
[QUOTE=rockinbass17]That's such a fun song. I love singing along to the "creepy-crawly" part.

John made some good contributions to The Who's repitoire. "Trick of the Light" is one often overlooked.[/QUOTE]
Trick Of The Light is awesome. And his Face Dances and Its Hard contributions were solid as well. I've always seen The Quiet One as his theme song.
[QUOTE=wanderer]Couldn't be more untrue... amazing tunes on that record, just get 1993 Mayfair Hotel show where he plays songs with just acoustic guitar. Songs are truely brilliant. In fact, you really realise how great songs they are everytime Pete plays them as solo acoustic versions.[/QUOTE]
Yes. Nice to see you wanderer. That mp3 you sent of that performance is tremendous :). And I guess you can agree with most of us here that Wire And Glass is a great success...
[QUOTE=fwqhgads ²]It's quite interesting seeing all of these newer members come into this thread all at once. Welcome to the forums, and thread.[/QUOTE]
Nice work getting the new people in and feeling welcome, Jeff :)


EDIT: omg for crimes! :eek:

fwqhgads ² 08-31-2006 03:47 PM

^^ 123 with Pete.

He's been my favorite for forever as well.

I get unbanned later tonight. =]

I'm going to try to be good.

BludgeonySteve 09-01-2006 11:38 AM

My favorite member's Rodger. I mean, cmon! It's Rodger. He's like teh singer.

Lunch 09-01-2006 11:45 AM

And he can beat the other members up. Except for John, who would just deflect him by not caring.

BludgeonySteve 09-01-2006 11:48 AM

That does seem to be what he does best. In the early concerts, Pete and Keith are smashing the hell out of the entire stage, Rodger's fixing his hair and John's cowering in the corner protecting his bass.

Ah, simpler times.

Ephemeral 09-01-2006 01:31 PM

[QUOTE=Lunch]And he can beat the other members up. Except for John, who would just deflect him by not caring.[/QUOTE]
refl

:upset:

Ephemeral 09-01-2006 01:32 PM

I always found it hilarious when they were all "crashing" and you could just hear through the piercing feedback, and explosions, a bass line playing on, and on..

JohnXDoesn't 09-01-2006 07:00 PM

[QUOTE=Lunch]And he can beat the other members up. Except for John, who would just deflect him by not caring.[/QUOTE]
but pete would crack him over the head with his guitar sometimes. that has got to be smarts :(

Lunch 09-01-2006 07:02 PM

And then he got knocked out and sent to the hospital with minor amnesia. Sounds like PWNED to me.

Sunny Afternoon 09-01-2006 09:13 PM

One time Keith's cymbal hit Pete on the leg and Pete, in turn, gave Keith a knock on the head with his guitar.

That was when Keith and John left the band for a week and made plans to create their own supergroup, with the name Lead Zeppelin, coined by John.

But they rejoined the Who shortly after that, and a smarmy manager took the name to guitarist Jimmy Page.

And the rest, they say, is history.

BludgeonySteve 09-01-2006 09:21 PM

When I go see them, i'm going to ask Pete for a guitar and if he refuses, i'll just smash one of his guitars. There's a risk that i'll get arrested but it's worth it. All of that guitar smashing makes me cry.

6stringed 09-01-2006 09:50 PM

[QUOTE=RNR]When I go see them, i'm going to ask Pete for a guitar and if he refuses, i'll just smash one of his guitars. There's a risk that i'll get arrested but it's worth it. All of that guitar smashing makes me cry.[/QUOTE]

nice.

knox 09-01-2006 10:09 PM

Anyone have links to videos of The Who performing live when they went crazy on stage and started breaking stuff?

zabbit82 09-01-2006 10:14 PM

I'm sure if you go onto Youtube and search for it, you'll find it.

Sunny Afternoon: Nice avatar man :thumb:

Ephemeral 09-01-2006 10:37 PM

There is some stuff on Youtube, yeah

6stringed 09-01-2006 10:40 PM

there's allways stuff on youtube.

Ephemeral 09-01-2006 10:41 PM

123

Lunch 09-02-2006 12:58 AM

[QUOTE=knox]Anyone have links to videos of The Who performing live when they went crazy on stage and started breaking stuff?[/QUOTE]

You owe it to yourself to just watch the Kids Are Alright Dvd, they have a nice montage of various destruction sequences after the My Generation from the Monterey Pop Festival.

Seafroggys 09-02-2006 01:11 AM

TKAA was what really made me a Who fanatic. I had listened to my dad's records of Who's Next and Who Are You, but wasn't altogether impressed (I liked Who Are You, Won't Get Fooled Again, Behind Blue Eyes, etc. but that was it). I got them on CD for myself (again, don't ask me why). Then a year later we rented the 30 Years of Max RnB video, which was my first look at live Who. I was throughorly impressed. Heaven and Hell really blew my mind (but I didn't listen to it again for another 6 months or so), as well as the other songs. Too much Kenney Jones, though, wasn't impressed much with him (still ain't, probably the worst drummer the Who has had).

Then about 2-3 weeks later we got TKAA DVD from the library. When I heard "See Me, Feel Me" from Woodstock, it sold me (even though I had seen that same exact song from the Woodstock movie, but it was back in Middle School and none of that music really impressed me much. Too much of a Beatles-only fanatic back then). As if that wasn't enough, the epic slow mo slide of WGFA made me orgasm.

Since then, the Who have really risen far and high.

rockinbass17 09-02-2006 12:42 PM

I became a Who fanatic pretty quickly- I was looking through the garage and found every studio Who album from 1966-1978, as well as [I]It's Hard[/I] and a few compilations, and a record player. It was like sudden overflowing of good music.

zabbit82 09-02-2006 05:41 PM

My dad is and was a huge Who fan, so I pretty much grew up on them at a very early age. He'd always play Who's Next and Who Are You quite frequently way back when. It wasnt until about 4 years ago when I started getting serious with music and became a big fan of the Who (not as big as Lunch or JXD, of course)

Ephemeral 09-02-2006 11:08 PM

One thing that pissed me off about their Woodstock performance is how Daltry kept swinging the mic. It's all he did the entire time, and always in the same way.

grr

JohnXDoesn't 09-02-2006 11:23 PM

[QUOTE=zabbit82]My dad is and was a huge Who fan, so I pretty much grew up on them at a very early age. He'd always play Who's Next and Who Are You quite frequently way back when. It wasnt until about 4 years ago when I started getting serious with music and became a big fan of the Who (not as big as Lunch or JXD, of course)[/QUOTE]
I became interested after hearing Odds And Sods. Kind of a strange compilation, that one. Some quirky songs on there as they are known to do sometimes. I thought "WTF. These can't be the Baba 'O Riley guys". Now I'm A Farmer ftl. But it kept me interested and my mom had Meaty Beaty Big And Bouncy (damn sexy title) and I liked it. Then I saw TKAA at a local theater that was showing that and The Song Remains The Same for some reason. Some sort of cheap revival. At 11 years old the Zep film just blew. And WTF with that guy with the violin bow? shi...made my ears bleed.

But then TKAA came on and that was it. These guys were nuts and I loved it. Smashing things, windmills, the sound, the noise, the insanity of it all. And the music was just this awesome sound. I was overwhelmed. I sat there falling in love and I kind of knew it. I left the theater trying to leap like Townshend and never looked back :)
[QUOTE=fwqhgads]One thing that pissed me off about their Woodstock performance is how Daltry kept swinging the mic. It's all he did the entire time, and always in the same way.

grr[/QUOTE]
i never liked Daltreys posing back then. i don't know if it was the "hippie" thing of the day or his "Tommy" image he was trying to maintain, but it was ill suited for The Who. and the fringe and boots and bobbing and weaving of that head of hair on him. i just want to slap him. i know he's the front man and what not, but gimme a break.

:smash:

Ephemeral 09-02-2006 11:46 PM

ATTN: John.

Get Skype omfg

Seafroggys 09-03-2006 12:33 AM

are you guys kidding me? Roger's mic swinging was his trademark, like Pete's windmilling. It's what made the Who.

So if Roger's stage presence wasn't 'Who' material, then explain John please.

Your logic sucks.

Lunch 09-03-2006 12:56 AM

I never had a problem with Roger's performance during the Tommy years. It was a little fluff, but that's what Tommy called for. Roger delivered the character perfectly I think, while still balancing his rock side and delivering on tracks like Young Man Blues, Shakin' All Over, etc.

JohnXDoesn't 09-03-2006 02:37 AM

[QUOTE=Seafroggys]So if Roger's stage presence wasn't 'Who' material, then explain John please. Your logic sucks.[/QUOTE]
:upset:


His stage presence was fine. And I liked his mic swinging. Love it, as a matter of fact. But I've never cared for the whole hippie thing. And its well known neither did the Who. Pete paid them lip service because of the initial spiritual side of the movement, but the rest thought they were bollocks. I think Lunch can back me on this one. These were former sharp dressed mods and art school students. And as they evolved Pete became "anti-fashion" with the overalls and Doc Martins, Keith was just a wierdo, and John wore strange costumes. They weren't exactly Jefferson Airplane, if you get my drift.

And then we have Roger. Posing it up for the hippies with the fringe and the I don't know WTF? It bothers me to see him hanging in the background "grooving" while the band explodes around him. I'd prefer he just stood there. When I see The Who perform Water from the IOW DVD I want to shoot my tv from all his fake posing. I've got no prob with Rog except during this period. It wasn't the hair or fashion in particular. Just his physical performance and posing. Although similar in later years it seemed he was just doing the generic "hippie pose" during this time. It irritates me. The Who were very far from Peace and Love. And I like them that way. The somewhat "out there" Tommy notwithstanding.


EDIT to Jeff: I'm not quite sure what Skype is but I will google it and find out. Have an idea. Internet radio of some sort, I think? Sounds cool...

wanderer 09-03-2006 09:30 AM

I think Roger's "posing" was spot on...


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