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Bartender 05-17-2005 01:10 PM

Heh, don't bother. It's all relevant to the thread, just not the immediate dibs.

Anyway, maybe the two-hour thing should be extended. I don't know if it's really needed though. It's rare that the two-hour rule is invoked right at the two-hour mark, isn't it?

Neurotoxin 05-17-2005 01:15 PM

Dibs on the Wildhearts song.

munky_magik 05-17-2005 01:16 PM

In hindsight: The two-hour-rule should be kept. Alot of the times people will call dibs, download the song, then forget the review so it's unfair to the people who want to continue the thread. There's no reason why people should have to wait longer for a forgotten review if they can do it straight away.

And yea, if the thread isn't stuck then only the people who want to do the reviews will go looking for it and thus will make a good job of them.

Bartender 05-17-2005 01:18 PM

Do you mind me restoring all your posts, by the way? Just out of interest :)

If the two-hour rule is why you only occasionally take part in forced listening, then maybe we should add some kind of caveat to it. Is it, and why, if so?

munky_magik 05-17-2005 01:23 PM

You can if you like, I was just keeping the thread spick 'n span. Well, sort of.
I just got rid of them incase people were trying to keep track if the dibs' but couldn't figure out who called what because of my incoherrant ramblings.

I tend to do forced listenings when I'm in the mood for discovering new music, and writing a review for it. More often than not I'll just download people's suggestions which they kindly upload.
The two-hour rule doesn't influence my decision at all.

Bartender 05-17-2005 01:32 PM

Alright then. Well I don't really see why it needs changing, then. Open to suggestions to the contrary, though.

And I restored them because (unless you're particularly concerned with keeping your postcount down), it seems more right to have anything relevant to the thread left in it.

Neurotoxin 05-17-2005 01:37 PM

Just to let you know, Firefox randomly closed for no reason so I lost my review. I may be an extra couple of minutes.

By the way Bartender, a while back you reviewed a song by Puscifier that I posted. The song's title contained numbers, a bible chapter/verse diddy I believe. Just wanted to let you know that the male vocalist was Maynard. At the time of the review you weren't aware, and I wasn't sure if you knew now.

munky_magik 05-17-2005 01:48 PM

[QUOTE=Bartender]Alright then. Well I don't really see why it needs changing, then. Open to suggestions to the contrary, though.[/quote]
It should stay. I can't remember why I thought otherwise.

[quote]And I restored them because (unless you're particularly concerned with keeping your postcount down), it seems more right to have anything relevant to the thread left in it.[/QUOTE]
It doesn't bother me, and besides, there's only so much I can do about it.

On an unrelated note, Lenny Henry is tremendously un-funny :-/

Neurotoxin 05-17-2005 01:54 PM

[B]Wildhearts - I Wanna Go Where The People Go (Hard rock)[/B]

Okay, I apologize for the short review but I really don't feel like writing it twice.

The song wasn't really my cup of tea. The first part when the drums came in I liked, and I also enjoyed the verse. The guitar that proceeded each line was a nice effect. The chorus wasn't anything overly special. The part in between 3:00 and 4:00 (I'm not exactly sure on the time) was a good listen, with the drumming a little faster and alternating vocalists.

7.5/10 - Good song, just not my style


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E Nomine - Das Omen im Kreis des Bosen (mit Robert De Niro)
Darkwave Ambient/Techno/Electronica
[url]http://s51.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=26XKYYAWBP78H0HAN4BS1L7D4Z[/url]

Mors Principium Est - Pure
Metal. I'm not positive on what genre... I'll go out on a limb and say a little melodic death. Sorry if I'm incorrect.
[url]http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1LI185C344YZF1RQKNI54OWHRR[/url]

King Geedorah - Next Levels
Jazz hip-hop
[url]http://s51.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2JIOL2XEFDL8T1QQUML1AVLTVL[/url]

enim 05-17-2005 03:41 PM

dibs on E Nomine - Das Omen im Kreis des Bosen (mit Robert De Niro). Cuz its german, and im bored. Although the "with Robert De Niro" part scares me.

enim 05-17-2005 04:27 PM

[url]http://s35.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=34FQ8C0J5E7XP17UJZP81X2R9Y[/url][B][U]E Nomine - Das Omen im Kreis des Bosen (mit Robert De Niro)[/U][/B]
Hm. Interesting choice.

Starts with a very real sounding ride cymbal roll. then Dark lyrics from a whole choir (or so it sounds). The techno-ness of it starts with a very cool melody, the basic techno drums. And the awesome dark vocals continue.

The techno+dark choir drop out for a second, leaving only a soloist with a deep, raspy voice and the bass beat to keep the rythm. That guy has a cool sounding voice. Then the whole song comes back. Then everything fades quickly except the melody, which then fades as well. Then the soloist again. With ambience background and bells.
then a new melody comes in. sounds like a super-distorted square wave (for you geeks out there, like me, who know what that is). The old bass beat comes back, with the same drums, and the choir. Then the choir get a solo. THis song is brilliant, if short. it would be cooler if i could understand all of it. now, for the end of the song, it seems as if it is all collaborating. Very awesoem sound.

As a treat, i have hunted down the lyrics. Translated as well (thank you Google):

Das Omen

imperio imperio inferna fortuna crudelitas

Du drehst Dich im schwarzen Licht
Dein Schatten explodiert wie ein Vulkan
Du bist wie ein Stern der spricht
verfallen bin ich Dir in meinem Wahn
in deinem Bann du mich ertränkst
unsterblich dann mir Leben schenkst
öffne das Tor den schwarzen Legionen
schließe den Kreis des Bösen, das Omen

imperio imperio inferna fortuna crudelitas

Ich senke mein Haupt vor Dir
wenn Du im Orbit glänzt
ich spüre die Macht
wenn Du mich von den Göttern trennst
Du bist mein Heiligtum
Du bist mein Licht im Raum
Du bist das Leben
Du bist der Fluch
Du bist das Omen

Das Omen

nigrae legiones, ferus imperator, sinus occultus, fatum terminatum

Du bist die Kraft, die Macht und die Prophezeiung in Ewigkeit
Du bist das Omen

imperio imperio inferna fortuna crudelitas

[b]THE TRANSLATION ISNT PERFECT, DONT BLAME ME[/B]

That Omen

imperio imperio inferna Fortune crudelitas

You revolve exploded are speaks decayed am drown give would open me in the black light your shadow like a
volcano you like a star of that I you in my delusion in your ban you immortal then me life the gate the black
legions latches the circle of the squall, that grandmas

imperio imperio inferna Fortune crudelitas

I sink shine sense separate are are are are are myself my head before you if you in the Orbit I the power if
you from the Gods you my sanctuary you my light in the room you the life you the curse you that grandmas

That Omen

nigrae legion, ferus imperator, sinus occultus, fatum terminatum

You are are the power, the power and the prophecy in eternity you that grandmas

imperio imperio inferna Fortune crudelitas



overall: 9/10.

[u]My Recommendations[/u]
East West - Sydwinder (genre: between metal and hard rock)
[url]http://s35.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3GT2030S6AJAQ0M2RQISBUWS0L[/url]
East West - Hey June (Relaxing not-too-hard rock)
[url]http://s35.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=34FQ8C0J5E7XP17UJZP81X2R9Y[/url]
Haste the Day - Blue 42 (christian metal)
[url]http://tormentation.sqonline.net/brunotime/01%20Blue%2042.m4a[/url] (its on my personal server, cuz YSI wouldnt take it)
Demon Hunter - Infected (christian metal)
[url]http://s8.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0X8LOB4SAM5913F1MFMSOHKM5U[/url]
Zao - Truly Truly This is the End (christian x-metal (harder then regualr metal)

Neurotoxin 05-17-2005 04:53 PM

[QUOTE]You are are the power, the power and the prophecy in eternity you that [b]grandmas[/b][/QUOTE]

Hahaha!

enim 05-17-2005 04:56 PM

yeah
that is funny. because oma in german is grandma, and when you add the -n ending, most of the time, it makes it plural. its very funny.

Bartender 05-18-2005 06:20 AM

Dibs.

Bartender 05-18-2005 06:36 AM

Heard a little bit about them I think, never actually heard them.
[b]Demon Hunter - Infected[/b] - 3:08

Starts off with a pretty cool intro. I like the sound on the drums, and it sounds like a repeated loop of someone playing them, with a bit of industrial noise in the background. Pretty good start, I think.

The other instruments (guitars and so on) come in to play along with the drums, which sounds pretty good too, until the vocalist gives a short hardcore-ish yell and they switch to a different riff. This riff has that skull-droning, really annoying quality that a lot of bad nu-metal has, and I don't like it. The vocalist is okay, though he sounds more like a hardcore vocalist than a metal vocalist. I suppose they're metalcore, then.

Hmm. What are those "ahhh" backing vocals doing? They sound terrible :-/ Not that they necessarily sound terrible, but they do in this case. And the chorus (if it is the chorus - the "you're infected with me.." bit) also seems out of place. The music hasn't slowed down, yet we have slow, clean vocals singing "you're infected with me" over the top of it. Hmm.

Ah, this bit is kind better. After the chorus, the regular vocals come back, and although the guitars are still playing that riff, the whole pace of the thing seems to pick up and it sounds pretty cool for a while. Until the "ahh"ing and clean vocals come back..

The song slows down a lot now, and there's a bit with the non-clean vocalist saying "I can't do this alone" over a slower musical backdrop. The music picks up for a second, and then cuts out as the song ends.

5/10, I think. Maybe a little less. It had a cool intro, and a couple of other bits I rather likes, but all the bits I liked seemed to be secondary (in the bands' eyes) to all the bits I didn't.

[b]Songs;[/b]
[url=http://s51.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1M1M1QF5Y0ZB20SH8JL67B3VNL]The Wildhearts - Lovesh*t[/url] (rock'n'roll)
[url=http://s7.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0YRTO3FKKSZZD34QFRMZLB7P3E]Hot Cross - Finger Redux[/url] (hardcore/emo)
[url=http://s7.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=222K4DHHB5WKW1OGYRDRLS5VJK]Týr - The Edge[/url] (viking/epic metal)
[url=http://s48.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1F8PQR300MMKR38ZWQN69IKWJ2]Fu Manchu - Separate Kingdom[/url] (stoner/surf rock)

Bartender 05-19-2005 06:00 PM

Bump.

Dancin' Man 05-20-2005 07:13 PM

[B]Manic Street Preachers - Mausoleum[/B]

Never heard anything by this band before.

Begins with a synthy temelod line anbd then drums and bass enter. A very simple riff is repeated a bunch of times. I like the vocals. They seem.... distracted and then they get very intense. I like it. I don't like how repetitive everything is but I like the vocals a lot. The vocal melody more than the delivery. It is a pretty elementary song, but decent. I don't like the constant eighth note rhythm on the guitars. The verse is pretty cool I must say, but it gets boring. Everything seems to go on too long for how low it's interesting factor is. The chorus melody and delivery I like quite a bit.

Wow.... this song structure is really boring. THe parts keep going on too long too. A little imagination would go a long way here. Ooohhh..... I like the sample in the 3rd verse thing. Very cool. Also the new sound effects over top of that into a new part. Very cool. Overall pretty boring, but each part I liked. Just not enough imagination.

6/10


[url=http://s44.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1SITOYEEJT8B636732E6FDWL7F]Behold... The Arctopus - Exospacial Psionic Aura[/url]
[url=http://s44.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=24LY65LJAJMJS3VRF84F15LJH8]October Tide - October Insight[/url]

Dancin' Man 05-21-2005 09:45 AM

bump

j_brown_12 05-21-2005 01:18 PM

dibs on the october tide

j_brown_12 05-21-2005 01:24 PM

un dibs- my connection is playing up sorry

clown_phobia 05-21-2005 06:34 PM

i'll take the dibs on october tide then

clown_phobia 05-21-2005 06:50 PM

October Tide - October Insight
 
Straight into a slowish heavy riff. The riff changes.
Then the vocals start. This is impossible to understand what the singer is saying. he sounds like he is taking a crap. He sounds like the cookie monster an octave down. "rar rar rar, ror, rawr" etc.

As the riffs continue, quiet lead lines can be heard.
The song speeds up at 1.52 and drums become more important.

A more melodic guitar line comes at about 2.38. No bass guitar has been audible yet in this song.

More emotionless riffing, then the atrocity that is the vocals returns. I have yet not understood a single world of this song. At about 4.30 I think I heard "this is the".

In conclusion, I didn't like this song very much at all. It was full of slow, uninspired riffing and plain drum beats. The vocals were horrendous, they sounded like a dog growling, but worse.

[b]2.5 / 10[/b]

Next person, the choices are:
[b]The Doors - Love Her Madly[/b]
[b]The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Bold as Love[/b]

I hopefully will be uploading these songs soon.

Broken Arrow 05-21-2005 06:52 PM

Dibs

Jimi Hendrix-Bold as Love

There's no time for an intro to this song as Jimi starts singing as soon as the songs starts. The first few lines are really descriptive and and he seems to sing about different colours. There is some really nice and light guitar behind Jimi's vocals but as soon as he hits the chorus the music picks up. During the chorus there is some really nice flowing bass behind Jimi singing about how "They're All Bold as Love, Just Ask the Axis". Back to the verse and it becomes softer again. Jimi is still singing very descriptivly about different colours. This time Red, Orange and Yellow. Now Jimi says he's Bold As Love and just ask the Axis. He also adds, in a talking voice that He(the Axis) knnows everything. After this they're is a truly amazing guitar solo but the drums also shine with Mitch Mitchell addding in many fills and lots of cymbal action. The Soog seems to stop but then Mitch gives a really nice fill and the guitar comes back playing a new riff/solo that is very very good. Amazing drumming still and some really cool effects on the guitar happening and the song fades out.


Truly Amazing. 9.5/10

The Doors-Backdoor Man
Neil Young-Southern Man
The Rolling Stones-Street Fighting Man

See a theme?

clown_phobia 05-21-2005 07:13 PM

[QUOTE=Livewired]
The Doors-Backdoor Man
Neil Young-Southern Man
The Rolling Stones-Street Fighting Man

See a theme?[/QUOTE]

I'll take dibs on the doors

clown_phobia 05-21-2005 07:51 PM

The Doors - Backdoor Man
 
The song starts with a bluesy guitar riff and Jim Morrison's yelling/grunting.
Then some great drums and bluesy keyboards start. Great singing (melodic) starts and the blues chord progression starts.

The song continues as a great blues piece. A lead guitar solo starts at 1.45. It is somewhat bluesy and sounds great. Not a huge classic, but nice blues.

Soon after the singing returns ('I eat more chicken than any man's ever seen' :lol:) and the song continues towards the end in its great blues style.

Summary: an enjoyable blues piece.

[b]9/10[/b]

Next up,
[URL=http://s32.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2LWYK7D7NP9B50L4BT7KOKBYBC][b]Stevie Ray Vaughn - Mary Had A Little Lamb[/b][/URL]
[URL=http://s32.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2J6G9ETIM0XT20O0UNALGDSKY1][b]John Mayall with Eric Clapton - Hideaway[/b][/URL]
(linked to download)

Dancin' Man 05-21-2005 09:25 PM

[QUOTE=clown_phobia]review on October Tide[/QUOTE]

Clearly you don't like doom metal or harsh vocals. Try to boraden your horizons. Check out Opeth or Novembre.

TheDMV 05-21-2005 09:29 PM

dibs on Wildhearts

edt: nevermind, the file expired. WTF!!

Dancin' Man 05-21-2005 09:30 PM

Nevermind.

clown_phobia 05-21-2005 09:45 PM

[QUOTE=Dancin' Man]Clearly you don't like doom metal or harsh vocals. Try to boraden your horizons. Check out Opeth or Novembre.[/QUOTE]

I've just requested Opeth in the YSI thread. Hopefully someone can hook me up and my mind will change.

Dancin' Man 05-21-2005 09:57 PM

Wait, can I call dibs on Motley Crue? I can be done in a like 10 minutes and I already have YSI's for the songs I plan to upload.

Dancin' Man 05-21-2005 10:05 PM

[b]Motley Crue - Let Us Prey[/b]
I have heard a few songs by the Crue and hated them. Let us hope this is a better song.

Opens with a cool chunk chunk bend. I like that but if it goes on too long will get old. Then drums. They are a little dull for this part. I thought Tommy Lee was supposed to be a really good drummer? A little more technical part qould go a long way in this section. The singer. Christ I hate this kind of voice. I like growls and screams and shrieks but the constipated forced sound of 80's metal vocals never cease to annoy me.

I like this song there is some cool rhythmic stuff going on. It is repetitive but cool. I like the occasional squeals of guitar. They add a lot. Also I like the bass when it can be heard. It sounds pretty 80's for the most part but some sections I really like (around the 2 minute mark). There is a perfect spot for some really showing drumming but it just isn't there. A guitar solo? Nothing. Just this riff that could support anything but is boring on it's own.

Woah... I dig this ending section of sort of ambience and phasing. The best part is it goes on for a while. It's kind of sludgy sounding and really cool. I could learn to like this. I like the ending of the bass just sort of blubbering away.

7/10 I liked it so much in comparison to the other songs I've heard. Not great (especially thr vocals) but I liked it.

[url=http://s51.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3IY6I968T6MM336P5YZ5BCSBNI]Alpha & Omega - Dream Music[/url] Avant Garde

Dancin' Man 05-22-2005 09:58 AM

bump before I leave.

Dancin' Man 05-22-2005 05:02 PM

Bump again.

Bartender 05-22-2005 05:02 PM

Dibs.

Bartender 05-22-2005 05:50 PM

Not sure if I'm really in the mood for avant-garde - been listening to pretty straightforward stuff lately - but here we go.
[b]Alpha and Omega - Dream Music[/b] - 3:10

Starts off with the sound of deep, slow breathing. Just that, for two repetitions, until it's joined (and mostly overpowered) by music. A guitar only, I think, sounds like it's drenched in effects. It's hard to describe the sound it has. It's kind of watery, but not in a bad way (like it's a weak production), it's just..bah. The visualisation it calls to mind - that is, what I feel I'd see were I able to see the music - is something very wobbly, pulsing, kinda thing. Again, hard to describe, because it's not wobbly as in weak (about to collapse), just wobbly as in shimmering, almost.

Anyway, after about a minute we're back with a repetition or two of the deep breathing, before, for lack of a better word, the guitar goes crazy. Not blazing-solo kind of crazy, but avant-classical, Penderecki-style crazy. Lots of squiggly sounds and picks and pecks at the strings. If I wasn't feeling so da[font=verdana]m[/font]n good today I think it'd be creepy.

It's all defiantly amelodic, anyway, and this midsection gives way to the deep breathing, and in turn a slight return to the 'normal' guitar of before (i.e. the non-crazy bit). Not for long though, and the song ends on the breathing again.

I'm unsure what to give this. On the one hand, I really liked bits of it. On the other, it was weird, and I'm not sure if certain part's even the kind of thing I could honestly claim to enjoy in a regular musical sense. But then, I do enjoy Penderecki anyway. Hmm.

A cautious 8/10. The actual sound of the piece (production/recording quality, I mean) was really good now that I think about it.

[b]Songs;[/b]
[url=http://s7.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=10PJ0WB41KEJZ0FT6KCKLPNXTV]Týr - The Edge[/url] (viking/epic metal)
[url=http://s7.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2WKBZXCASUQUP2WTL7XNWDSXV7]Nomeansno - It's Catching Up[/url] (hardcore/punk)
[url=http://s7.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1H4A7T8EKMAJH1TYSIA6SWFMAK]Hot Cross - Finger Redux[/url] (emo/hardcore)

More to come if necessary.

White Goodman 05-22-2005 05:58 PM

dibs

White Goodman 05-22-2005 06:25 PM

[B]Tyr-The Edge[/B] -7:44
I'm not really into Viking Metal, but I thought I would give it a shot, since I hate most hardcore.

The song begins with a fairly boring guitar riff with the drums. This goes on for about 35 seconds until it begins to speed up. Then the vocals kick in. Unlike the majority of Viking Metal I have heard, I actually liked the vocals. I thought that it was the strong point of the song. While the first 4 minutes were repetitive I thought, it was still ok. Then the solo half way through the song caught my attention again. I thought it was amazing. There wasn't anything real special about it, but for some reason it just gripped me. Then the singing comes back in. The rest of the song was better than the first half I thought.

Overall, this is only the Viking Metal song I have actually liked so far. Maybe I should dig back into Viking Metal and see if I find something as good as this. I think I could keep this song and give it several more listens. I recommend everyone download it.
[B]8 out of 10[/B] is my verdict on the song.

[URL=http://s45.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2E93EB107Z09N339VFY556G5IW]Earthtone9-tat twam asi[/URL] General Hard Rock
[URL=http://s45.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0DZH9L1W1G5N215DM8MTK8YO58]Pink Floyd-The Nile Song[/URL] Classic Rock

Dancin' Man 05-22-2005 06:33 PM

'Tender - I did that song for a movie of mine. Glad you liked it... sort of. I just whored myself through FL. I'll kill myself now.

no-dibs.

Chu 05-22-2005 09:42 PM

[QUOTE=Bartender]Not sure if I'm really in the mood for avant-garde - been listening to pretty straightforward stuff lately - but here we go.
[b]Alpha and Omega - Dream Music[/b] - 3:10

Starts off with the sound of deep, slow breathing. Just that, for two repetitions, until it's joined (and mostly overpowered) by music. A guitar only, I think, sounds like it's drenched in effects. It's hard to describe the sound it has. It's kind of watery, but not in a bad way (like it's a weak production), it's just..bah. The visualisation it calls to mind - that is, what I feel I'd see were I able to see the music - is something very wobbly, pulsing, kinda thing. Again, hard to describe, because it's not wobbly as in weak (about to collapse), just wobbly as in shimmering, almost.

Anyway, after about a minute we're back with a repetition or two of the deep breathing, before, for lack of a better word, the guitar goes crazy. Not blazing-solo kind of crazy, but avant-classical, Penderecki-style crazy. Lots of squiggly sounds and picks and pecks at the strings. If I wasn't feeling so da[font=verdana]m[/font]n good today I think it'd be creepy.

It's all defiantly amelodic, anyway, and this midsection gives way to the deep breathing, and in turn a slight return to the 'normal' guitar of before (i.e. the non-crazy bit). Not for long though, and the song ends on the breathing again.

I'm unsure what to give this. On the one hand, I really liked bits of it. On the other, it was weird, and I'm not sure if certain part's even the kind of thing I could honestly claim to enjoy in a regular musical sense. But then, I do enjoy Penderecki anyway. Hmm.

A cautious 8/10. The actual sound of the piece (production/recording quality, I mean) was really good now that I think about it.[/QUOTE]
That's a good review, in my opinion.

Moses 05-22-2005 10:31 PM

I'd like to do one but the only song's I want other people to hear are classical songs.


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