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shane italian 09-08-2004 10:03 PM

Sorry guys but I have to.....

[size=7]PWNAGE[/size]

DrGolovaCroxby 09-08-2004 10:06 PM

[QUOTE=sexcore]Hey all im new, this thread is awesome, very educational. I was wondering what the band Himsa would be classified, im gessing metalcore...[/QUOTE]

i'm guessing [SIZE=4]sh[/SIZE][SIZE=4]it[/SIZE]

BuddyBigsby 09-08-2004 11:40 PM

Himsa = Metal / Thrash

BuddyBigsby 09-08-2004 11:49 PM

Wuh woh, several things to reply to

Cb: No, I'm pretty sure Hand of Hope isn't a sub-label of Eulogy (I could be wrong). The reason Eulogy advertises it is because it's owned by members of Evergreen Terrace, who are on Eulogy. I think they're just helping them out

The Warriors are so awesome. They're like Rage Against the Machine if they went hardcore. I know that doesn't sound too appealing but oh... *jizzes self* I HIGHLY recommend seeing them live if you ever get the chance.

iHATEgc: Weren't you insisting that Haymaker was a good album?

BuddyBigsby 09-08-2004 11:49 PM

[QUOTE=samson]pfft you guys are so ignorant, listening to different styles of music broadens your ability and style hence making your music more original and interesting[/QUOTE]

No way dude, Hardcore is the only music you should listen to ever. Don't be stupid.

Gotkookie 09-09-2004 12:53 AM

[QUOTE=BuddyBigsby]Wuh woh, several things to reply to

Cb: No, I'm pretty sure Hand of Hope isn't a sub-label of Eulogy (I could be wrong). The reason Eulogy advertises it is because it's owned by members of Evergreen Terrace, who are on Eulogy. I think they're just helping them out

The Warriors are so awesome. They're like Rage Against the Machine if they went hardcore. I know that doesn't sound too appealing but oh... *jizzes self* I HIGHLY recommend seeing them live if you ever get the chance.

iHATEgc: Weren't you insisting that Haymaker was a good album?[/QUOTE]
haymakers pretty good

Raise your fist in the air...

BuddyBigsby 09-09-2004 12:55 AM

was better on [I]Drive Me Dead[/I].

Gotkookie 09-09-2004 12:55 AM

[QUOTE=samson]i dont just listen to hardcore, i listen to emo and metal and all that. do i have to listen to nothing but hardcore to be in a hardcore band?[/QUOTE]
Anyone who likes atreyu would look better with a knife in their face. No talent, annoying as ****, and their fans are a bunch of ****holes.

axeslinga_32 09-09-2004 02:43 AM

[QUOTE=BuddyBigsby]No way dude, Hardcore is the only music you should listen to ever. Don't be stupid.[/QUOTE]

dude, i totally forgot everything we talked about concerning you fail me and the funeral of god.

which converge songs did you tell me download and which zao ones?

BuddyBigsby 09-09-2004 09:16 AM

[QUOTE=axeslinga_32]dude, i totally forgot everything we talked about concerning you fail me and the funeral of god.

which converge songs did you tell me download and which zao ones?[/QUOTE]

Hahaha, it's cool.

Converge:
"Last Light" (song with clean, yelly vocals)
"You Fail Me" (best song on the album. slow, gritty and dirty, and just sinister)
"In Her Shadow" (the acoustic one with the 'creepy chanting' we were talking about')

Zao:
"Breath of the Black Muse" (Good song ruined by clean vocals)
"The Last Song from Zion" (POD song)
"The Last Revelation (The Last Prophecy)" (GOOD SONG)

refuse_amen 09-09-2004 09:51 AM

[QUOTE= gotkookie]Anyone who likes atreyu would look better with a knife in their face. No talent, annoying as ****, and their fans are a bunch of ****holes.

[/QUOTE]

i like atreyu. do i deserve a knife in my face? am i an '****hole'?

BuddyBigsby 09-09-2004 09:55 AM

Yes.

refuse_amen 09-09-2004 09:56 AM

i knew someone was gonna think theyre clever and say that.

BuddyBigsby 09-09-2004 10:02 AM

Well how else am I supposed to get my jollies?

refuse_amen 09-09-2004 10:04 AM

listening to 'metalcore' gives me quite a few jollies.

Marriedburied 09-09-2004 12:17 PM

Are there any bands taht sound like Circle takes the square or saetia?
Lately i've been really into them.

cbmartinez 09-09-2004 01:12 PM

[QUOTE=BuddyBigsby]Cb: No, I'm pretty sure Hand of Hope isn't a sub-label of Eulogy (I could be wrong). The reason Eulogy advertises it is because it's owned by members of Evergreen Terrace, who are on Eulogy. I think they're just helping them out
[/QUOTE]

Oh ok, cool. Yeah, I just thought that because they were selling Society's Finest and Ikilledthepromqueen CDs on the site.

BuddyBigsby 09-09-2004 05:26 PM

[QUOTE=Marriedburied]Are there any bands taht sound like Circle takes the square or saetia?
Lately i've been really into them.[/QUOTE]

Portrait
Joshua Fit for Battle
Jerome's Dream
Kaospilot
Pg. 99
Usurp Synapse
A Day in Black and White
Neil Perry

40 oz 2 freedom 09-09-2004 05:33 PM

Buddy, your favorite songs from 'You Fail Me' are the same as mine! We are twinkies!

40 oz 2 freedom 09-09-2004 08:44 PM

*bump*

Has anyone ever ordered stuff from Bridge 9 before? I ordered stuff like 3 weeks ago and it still hasn't come, and I just wanted to know if that's normal.

A-Life-Less-Plagued 09-09-2004 09:10 PM

[QUOTE=40 oz 2 freedom]*bump*

Has anyone ever ordered stuff from Bridge 9 before? I ordered stuff like 3 weeks ago and it still hasn't come, and I just wanted to know if that's normal.[/QUOTE]
I just ordered some stuff last week...

syrUsbilt 09-09-2004 09:18 PM

40 oz 2 freedom's avatar looks just like the kid who sings for my hardcore band.

syrUsbilt 09-09-2004 09:18 PM

40 oz 2 freedom's avatar looks just like the kid who sings for my hardcore band.

BuddyBigsby 09-09-2004 11:31 PM

The kid who sings for your hardcore band looks just like Jake Bannon.

Gotkookie 09-10-2004 01:49 AM

[QUOTE=BuddyBigsby]Portrait
Joshua Fit for Battle
Jerome's Dream
Kaospilot
Pg. 99
Usurp Synapse
A Day in Black and White
Neil Perry[/QUOTE]
ill add to the list

City of caterpillar
Daughters
the Locust
Fear before the march of flames
the BLood brothers
Hot cross (ex saetia singer if im not mistaken?)
The number 12 looks like you (I have no idea wtf they are, but they are good)

Gotkookie 09-10-2004 02:02 AM

[QUOTE=axeslinga_32]dude, i totally forgot everything we talked about concerning you fail me and the funeral of god.

which converge songs did you tell me download and which zao ones?[/QUOTE]
no, download all of their songs. (Converge)

BuddyBigsby 09-10-2004 02:07 AM

[QUOTE=Gotkookie]ill add to the list

City of caterpillar
Daughters
the Locust
Fear before the march of flames
the BLood brothers
Hot cross (ex saetia singer if im not mistaken?)
The number 12 looks like you (I have no idea wtf they are, but they are good)[/QUOTE]

Good list although a couple things need to be mentioned.

Daughters - Not screamo. Just crappy.
The Locust - Not screamo. but good.
Fear Before - Not entirely screamo, they mix it up, and that is why I love them.
Blood Brothers - Also mix it up
Saetia - Also also mix it up. I'm seeing them next month. Ohhh yeah.

Gotkookie 09-10-2004 02:09 AM

[QUOTE=iHATEgc]

Grindcore in its purest form consisted of short, apocalyptic blasts of noise played on standard heavy metal instrumentation (distorted guitar, bass, drums). Although grindcore wasn't just randomly improvised, it certainly didn't follow conventional structure, either; while riffs could sometimes be picked out, pure grindcore never featured verses, choruses, or even melodies. Grindcore vocals sounded torturous, ranging from high-pitched shrieks to low, throat-shredding growls and barks; although the lyrics were usually quite verbose, they were very rarely intelligible. Some bands in this catagory can also be known as Mathcore. Meaning they're more complex in the musical writings.

Grindcore bands:
Napalm Death, [B]Dillinger Escape Plan[/B], Death, Carcass, The Locust, The Tony Danza Tap Dance Extravaganza, Cock and Ball Torture, Pig Destroyer, Agoraphobic Nosebleed...

[/QUOTE]

Not grind. Great job writing this but you contradicted yourself. You said that grindcore didnt follow conventional structure, yet dillinger escape plan is one of the most technical bands ive ever heard. Never heard mathcore being known as grind... D E P doesnt have any blast beats, they dont have 30 second songs, its not all distorted. There is no growls or high pitched shrieks, and D E P does have intelligble lyrics, therefore there is no reason for D E P to be called grind. :)

Gotkookie 09-10-2004 02:10 AM

[QUOTE=BuddyBigsby]Good list although a couple things need to be mentioned.

Daughters - Not screamo. Just crappy.
The Locust - Not screamo. but good.
Fear Before - Not entirely screamo, they mix it up, and that is why I love them.
Blood Brothers - Also mix it up
Saetia - Also also mix it up. I'm seeing them next month. Ohhh yeah.[/QUOTE]
i dont know they sound screamo to me, they sound like other screamo bands, what are they then?

The locust is definitely somewhat screamo, they are grind, but they do have the chaotic feel of screamo.

BuddyBigsby 09-10-2004 11:52 AM

[QUOTE=Gotkookie]i dont know they sound screamo to me, they sound like other screamo bands, what are they then?

The locust is definitely somewhat screamo, they are grind, but they do have the chaotic feel of screamo.[/QUOTE]

Chaos, yes. The emotion which is the main characteristic of screamo, no.

cbmartinez 09-10-2004 01:11 PM

[QUOTE=Gotkookie]Not grind. Great job writing this but you contradicted yourself. You said that grindcore didnt follow conventional structure, yet dillinger escape plan is one of the most technical bands ive ever heard. Never heard mathcore being known as grind... D E P doesnt have any blast beats, they dont have 30 second songs, its not all distorted. There is no growls or high pitched shrieks, and D E P does have intelligble lyrics, therefore there is no reason for D E P to be called grind. :)[/QUOTE]

Eh, it's kind of hard to say. Technical is sometimes associated with grind because the instruments work together very technically I believe?

sexcore 09-10-2004 03:28 PM

could u guys even try to define afi, like the last 3 albums..

A-Life-Less-Plagued 09-10-2004 03:29 PM

[QUOTE=sexcore]could u guys even try to define afi, like the last 3 albums..[/QUOTE]
Pop-punk. And you're not supposed to talk about them here. Go to the pop-punk forum.

Gotkookie 09-10-2004 04:41 PM

[QUOTE=cbmartinez24]Eh, it's kind of hard to say. Technical is sometimes associated with grind because the instruments work together very technically I believe?[/QUOTE]
Its wierd, its kind of oxymoronic, they have technicallity, but they are simple... Hard to explain.

Gotkookie 09-10-2004 04:42 PM

[QUOTE=BuddyBigsby]Chaos, yes. The emotion which is the main characteristic of screamo, no.[/QUOTE]
I see, that means "The number twelve looks like you" is what then? not emotional, but it has the chaoticness, Im lost at what genre they are...

BuddyBigsby 09-10-2004 04:44 PM

Can't really say. I don't really like them. Probably tech, if I remember correctly.

Let's Chop Cats! 09-10-2004 04:52 PM

My friend is thinking of booking them for a show he's doing in his basement.

Gotkookie 09-10-2004 04:55 PM

[QUOTE=Sk8SkaNJ]My friend is thinking of booking them for a show he's doing in his basement.[/QUOTE]
who the number 12 looks like you? do it

Let's Chop Cats! 09-10-2004 05:06 PM

Yeah, he's starting to call some of the bands within the week.

nothing6 09-10-2004 05:07 PM

the number twelve rules. saw them twice, great stuff.

dillinger escape plan classify themselves as grindcore.


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