[QUOTE=Screamin_Demon_Auz;16403793]First off, you haven't got nodes so don't worry about it. When I first started I thought I had them everytime my voice would sound a little rough or hurt a little bit, but by now ive realized how hard it really is to do that kind of damage, and it would be a long road leading up to actually developing a node; your voice would be messed up at all times, you'd slowly start losing the middle part of your voice and your falsetto, etc. So dont worry about it.

Sounds like your drinking plenty of water so thats no issue. Heres the thing; you may be doing a warm up and you may be doing it with 100% perfect technique, but you still could be straining your voice. Since you've been going at it without any real resting, I think your just overworking your vocal muscles.

The discovery of your mix/middle voice could very well be that you found the coordination, but it could also be that your cords starting to get a little strained and swollen and you were able to produce that sound. It sounds weird, but the day or 2 before your voice gives out on you from pushing it too much will be when you sound your best...everything will sound amazing and you'll be able to sing up higher in a fuller tone than ever before.

The reason why is the swelling. Your cords get to a point where you can push them and thanks to the swelling, you'll be able to take chest ( or what you might had thought was middle ) up higher than ever before. This can go on for a day or two, and then your voice just kind of dies on you. After this, your voice will be deepened due to all the swelling,and you wont have access to any head voice notes, and if you still have a falsetto it will be breathy as hell.

So, heres the only way I can determine if you really found middle or not without hearing an audio file. You were able to sing in your mid and high mid range in a full voice tone; how was your falsetto? Were you singing notes usually only usable in a loud falsetto tone in a full voice? Was your falsetto more breathy or harder to bring up than normal? What about your lower chest notes...was anything different about them?

Either way, its overuse, so take a few days off from singing songs...keep doing light warm ups for 15 minutes a day until everything feels normal. if you truly discovered middle as opposed to just pushing on swollen beat up cords, try to get that feeling back and use less breath pressure to produce it.[/QUOTE]

I think I remember my falsetto being pretty airy after I was done singing. I was singing notes that I previously had thought was only accessible in my falsetto but they had a more distinct tone to them, more of a chest sounding tone than the usual airy sounding tone that falsetto produces. I do remember though after about a day or two of using middle (or what I thought was middle) my chest voice was producing very raspy sounds when I was singing, I wasn't trying to produce the rasp either.

I was more focused on the tones I was producing at that time that I thought was my middle voice as opposed to hitting my falsetto notes. A day later when I went into my falsetto though it was unusually breathy and harder for me to sustain the notes. I'll try and get a clip up when I can so you can hear it.

I think I'm going to take a day or two off singing though just so I can get my cords some rest, I have been singing a bit too much lately I think.

Ok, your cords were definitely swollen and you were pulling up chest higher than you normally can because of it. Definitely take a few days off and ease back into your normal routine.

anybody have any tips for the most efficient way to strengthen your falsetto?

i have like no falsetto and i'm not sure if i just don't know how to use it right or it just isn't very developed. i

've also heard that tenors don't have much falsetto, and although my voice is kind of the high side i've always just assumed i was baritone, so i'm not sure if this is the case with me or not but can anyone confirm this (about tenors not having much falsettto that is)?

Hi,

I am still working at getting my highest notes to be thicker and have more tone to them. But it still sounds thin even if i put in more resonance. Am I doing it wrong? To get the voice I want do I have to pull my chest voice all the way up? A lot of times I feel like I am working on the wrong 'voice'. I want something strong and powerful like a belt.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=kdash;16457533]Hi,

I am still working at getting my highest notes to be thicker and have more tone to them. But it still sounds thin even if i put in more resonance. Am I doing it wrong? To get the voice I want do I have to pull my chest voice all the way up? A lot of times I feel like I am working on the wrong 'voice'. I want something strong and powerful like a belt.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

Just work with making the notes higher than those ones, a little fuller. Those notes you want now to be full should be way fuller. Pulling chest too far is bad, a little is okay but generally sounds kind of bad. Hit the note in a quiet falsetto and then swell it to a full loud full voice thing. This exercise is from Jaime Vendera's Raise your voice, but its also an old classical exercise I believe. Something like, messa di voice, I dont know, the name doesn't matter. But it'll help.

It's around tenor's high C...........I can't go any higher.

[QUOTE=kdash;16466560]It's around tenor's high C...........I can't go any higher.[/QUOTE]

Work on getting notes above that then! Do the exercise I wrote in my previous post too.

I don't think i can go any higher. Below high C I can still make it sound close to what I want if i force it, but at high C no matter what, I sound like a little girl. I think if I go any higher it would sound just like my falsetto. My throat is all the way down too. I guess I just need to adduct too much to make those notes. I can hit Soprano's high C using a similar technique, but it is just all sounds.........can't make any vowels out of it, and I can't use it in the middle of a song either, so its as gd as useless to me. I want to have my high notes sounds like a man. I heard many men go as high as high E, but they sound girly, which if what I am afraid of if I go any higher(if i could -.-)

take his advice and sing higher than that C, no matter how awful it sounds, i'm not a vocal expert by any means but that's what i've done to increase my range and its definitely worked, a year ago i couldn't even touch a high C but after trying to sing Ds and Es, i now can get a pretty good tone on a C

does anyone know of any good singing dvds especially geared towards more aggressive singing and the use of rasp (other than melissa cross)?

I've been going back 40+ pages and reading all the tips, doing the vocal warm-ups etc but for some reason I still sound flat when I sing. I can hear the notes fine but when I try to reproduce them, I just sound emotionless :/ My vocals sound pretty weak as well and I was thinking a vibrato would help but I haven't been able to sing with one despite all the warm-ups. Anyone with any ideas on how to work on these issues?

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Ok so they is my somewhat poor attempt at singing . I was wondering if anyone could give some tips on how to improve myself ?

Hey guys, I got a question.
For a year now I've been doing screaming, like the extreme style. I can do it very well, for example I can successfully emulate bands such as Children of Bodom and Opeth.
However, now what boggles my mind is the vocal technique that for example Phil Anselmo of Pantera and James Hetfield of Metallica use (...And Justice for All period). I'm talking when they hit notes like G above middle C with a raspy tone, I can't do that for ****, it goes into my falsetto scream. Note : I have no control over middle voice whatsoever. Is that the culprit?
Thanks in advance. =]

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Ok so they is my somewhat poor attempt at singing . I was wondering if anyone could give some tips on how to improve myself ?[/QUOTE]

either this is a joke or you accidentally sped up the recording so you sound like a chipmunk, if its not a joke, you might want to try re-recording this

Harmony...how? What is it? How do I do it. -confused.

[QUOTE=GOme;16570238]Harmony...how? What is it? How do I do it. -confused.[/QUOTE]

If you mean harmonize with another singer....

then a good way to practice is to play a note on an instrument, then play the 3rd up. Now try singing those two notes one after another so you get used to the interval. Now do it without the instruments help.

Now to bump it up a difficulty play the first note, and then sing the second one. The harmony that is created is...you guessed it, a 3rd! A major 3rd is probably easiest to start with.

Eventually this will get easier to do automatically but thats how I got my start on it.

I sang a couple parts in this little song that i recorded via garage band. I know the instrumentals are very basic and boring but i just wanted something i could attempt to sing to . i am well aware of the lack luster quality I am not a great singer by any means, as you can tell by the recorded clip,. but what can i do to improve on when i sing? im using the built in mic and i had strep throat while recording that (i know, bad time to record me SINGING haha)

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the song is called fork and my song 17, altho my song 17 is just auto tuned to ****


you can listin to my instrumental songs too. if you want ....haha

dont sing if you have strep throat dude

that cant be good for you

Hey guys!

GOme... Harmony can be a very simple thing to use or difficult depending on what types of harmony and melody you are using. As Kid says, the simplest form of using harmony is to sing a major third up from the original melody..... if u play another instrument and have used that you will understand what I mean, and it's sound.

I would advise you to listen to some Beatles songs, especially the earlier stuff as their use of harmony is a really good example to use when starting out with using harmony.... also, harmonies in Blues songs are very good to learn from too. See if you can find some vocal scores along with listening to the music, they may help you too.

in theory, if your adam's apple is low, and u push ur diaphragm down and keep it from coming up then you practice ur high notes, even if u dun't get it, u eventually will? true?

You can't control your diaphragm so never bother trying. All the old school coaches who preach about singing from your diaphragm and all of this emphasis thats placed on it are basically just repeating **** they've heard time and time again and they don't really even know what they mean. You do push down though like your using the restroom, thats the feeling you want to get. Your larynx will always rise somewhat when you sing high and it doesnt really matter unless its so high that your throat starts to close off. If thats the case then do some low larynx work and check on it every once in a while. You'll never really hit high notes properly if your trying to keep the larynx down so just don't think about it unless again its closing off your throat.

is the throat suppose to really feel nothing during high notes?

When Steven Tyler screams in "I don't wanna miss a thing" is it done in falsetto or true voice?

On high notes, you should feel your soft/and or hard palate buzzing a bit if you have correct placement going.

Tyler is in falsetto there.Some people might say its a mix, but really it doesn't matter. It lacking the resonance a head tone would provide.

K, just made account so i can't make a new thread so sorry if this doesn't belong here.
But what would you guys recommend for a amp for vocal practice?

i'm aware i'll need a P.A. system if i ever want to do more but i've heard of using key board amps and stuff for vocals. I'm looking at this [url]http://raleigh.craigslist.org/ele/856929751.html[/url]
which is in my area and 200w for 110 bucks with built in simple EQ.

thanks

How does he do it? It seems when I use falsetto the tone is too sharp, that it is covering up the rasp

Okay, so here's the deal: I want to record some vocals (growly thrashy ****). I'm not much of a singer, but I don't have a band, and it's for my solo project-thingy, so I'm gonna do it myself. Which is not really the problem, because I believe I do posess some basic thrashy growl skills.
The problem is however, that I don't want the neighbours to hear me yelling and screaming like a rabid lunatic. XD I need a way to record this **** without mentally disturbing my neighbours. Any suggestions?

Disregard that. Growling is one thing, articulating words while growling is another. Maybe I should just leave this to someone else. XD

hey children! (and elders)

guess whose been singing solo for a couple of years now? i have, and i'm terrible. for whatever reason, i can never really get myself to be in tune with the songs i write, i think i might simply be singing the dominant but i'm in no way sure.

help?

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So i recently recorded a short song and decided for the first time ever i would put vocals on it.

It didn't come out as planned and i'm really not happy with my voice at all but can't for the life of me figure what i'm doing wrong and what i need to do to correct it :(

any pointers?

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Screamin Demon Auz, where in Ohio do you live?