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DeusExMachina 01-24-2005 01:13 AM

Yeah, its a good song. That whole album is great.

Ulysses 01-24-2005 06:18 AM

[QUOTE=Ned]I'm sorry, that's not quite right. McCartney wasn't drafted; he pushed himself in. John Lennon had been creative since childhood, drawing cartoons and poems and starting a parody school newpaper, as well playing the guitar and singing and writing songs, long before he met McCartney.[/QUOTE]

McCartney was introduced to the band by Ivan Vaughan who went to the Liverpool Institute and was a long time friend of Lennon's on 6 July 1957while he was playing with the Quarry Men at the Woolton fair. It is true he did write poems when younger, this is emphasised when the first time Mimi saw him cry when his dog Sally was put down because of a row Lennon had had with her that morning before school. He wrote a poem about the dog. McCartney did assist him as they played together facing eachother when the two jammed together and McCartney being the better guitarist at the time taught Lennon which enabled the both of them to progress and grow as the band they were to later become. His songwriting improved as he matured as a musician.

BludgeonySteve 01-25-2005 02:53 PM

[QUOTE=DeusExMachina]True... 30+ tracks is an advantage. Don't remember the exact number of tracks... actually, I think its 30 exactly. 17 on disc 1, 13 on disc 2, right?[/QUOTE]

Bleh. I forget too. but it's the most on any of their albums.

DeusExMachina 01-25-2005 03:21 PM

Yeah. Abbey Road has 17 though, which is quite a bit. More than most Beatles albums. And, Abbey Road > White Album.

Sgt._Joker 01-25-2005 06:32 PM

mmmm really comes down to personal taste, i like the White Albumn course of all the experimenting with diff styles, and i like Abbey Road course its uber,
the only thing i can say that is better then something else, when talking about the beatles is:

Early Bealtes < Later Beatles

DeusExMachina 01-25-2005 09:17 PM

True. Later Beatles definitely owns earlier Beatles.

BludgeonySteve 01-25-2005 09:17 PM

Agreed and agreed once more. Early Beatles tended to be more pop and later Beatles was more creative and deep.

HempKnight 01-25-2005 09:35 PM

Yea i'm defenetly glad the beatles changed the kind of music they were putting out because i wouldn't have listened to them if they hadn't put out that good later stuff. And to be denied the beatles is a crime

Seafroggys 01-25-2005 11:00 PM

Yeah, but if you listened to like the melody of some of the older Beatles' tunes (like if you played the vocals part on a piano) it sounds really really nice. Like All my Loving, Please Please Me, etc.

And c'mon....Twist and SHout is the ultimate dance song!

clown_phobia 01-26-2005 02:50 AM

[QUOTE=HempKnight]Yea i'm defenetly glad the beatles changed the kind of music they were putting out because i wouldn't have listened to them if they hadn't put out that good later stuff. And to be denied the beatles is a crime[/QUOTE]

Their music changed when Bob Dylan gave them Marijuana, before Rubber Soul.

Sgt._Joker 01-26-2005 05:41 AM

[QUOTE=clown_phobia]Their music changed when Bob Dylan gave them Marijuana, before Rubber Soul.[/QUOTE]

it would of got depper any way, john lennon started getting influenced by dylan any way, john wanted to start writting like dylan with or without marjuwanna,

marajuwanna deff helped tho

Ulysses 01-26-2005 06:58 AM

[QUOTE=Sgt._Joker]it would of got depper any way, john lennon started getting influenced by dylan any way, john wanted to start writting like dylan with or without marjuwanna,

marajuwanna deff helped tho[/QUOTE]

Yeah, Lennon's meeting with Dylan in August 1964 marked a turning point in Lennon's lyric writing, where he began to write more deeply about himself and also drugs etc. He began maturing as a lyricist, which is why I prefer the Beatles later stuff, its also more creative, original and has depth to it compared to the poppier early material.
Supposedly Dylan thought that in the song "I Want to Hold Your Hand" the Beatles were saying "I get high" when they were actually saying "I can't hide" and it inspired him lyrically, as he saw the Beatles pushing the boundaries. You can see this on "Another Side of Bob Dylan". When the Beatles and Bob Dylan met at a hotel Dylan was staying in when he introduced them to marujuana, while they were still taking drugs such as purple hearts, Dylan asked them about the drug reference and it seemed he was proved wrong, but it inspired the Beatles to smoke pot and Dylan to create an album, so everything happens for a reason I suppose. The responses to eachothers lyrics is also fascinating with Dylan's answer to "Norweigan Wood" through "Fourth Time Around". There are many other examples of this and I find it quite intriguing and interesting as to what happens when artists such as the Beatles and Dylan associate with eachother.

MemoryMachine 01-26-2005 08:28 AM

Sgt. Peppers is the bomb ****. Harrison's contribution in "Within Without You" though, is a serious let down.

I adore Getting Better, such a feel good tune.

BludgeonySteve 01-26-2005 11:40 AM

Yeah. The Beatles really go have a lot of feel good songs. They just cheer me right up :)

cheesemuncher 01-26-2005 12:44 PM

[QUOTE=rock not roll]Yeah. The Beatles really go have a lot of feel good songs. They just cheer me right up :)[/QUOTE]
I don't particularly like getting better that much really, and in my opinion within wthout You is one of The Beatles' best songs

DeusExMachina 01-26-2005 03:45 PM

But, A Day in the Life is clearly the best song on Sgt. Peppers.

Broken Arrow 01-26-2005 04:38 PM

[QUOTE=DeusExMachina]But, A Day in the Life is clearly the best song on Sgt. Peppers.[/QUOTE]
I'd have to agree with you on that one. Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds is is second though.

For some crazy reason When I'm 64 doesn't really click with me. I haven't ever liked it. Am I crazy?

Woodstock 01-26-2005 04:42 PM

When I'm 64 was just supposed to be a joke song to McCartney's dad. I still like it though.

Illmatic 01-26-2005 04:49 PM

I actually like "It's Getting Better" more than "A Day in the Life"...

xxxRoCkJuNkiExxx 01-26-2005 05:13 PM

I prefer "A Day In the Life." Then I would have to say either Lucy in the Sky, Good Morning, or With A Little Help From My Friends.

clown_phobia 01-26-2005 05:19 PM

The whole album is great! How come no-one has mentioned the title track? It is so good!

Sgt._Joker 01-26-2005 05:20 PM

A Day in the Life is really something, but i really really Like Good Morning, Good Morning aswell.
Lucy in the sky is also v good, and with a liitle help from my friends is brill course it just slides off Sgt Peppers.

its so hard to compare songs :(

xxxRoCkJuNkiExxx 01-26-2005 05:38 PM

The only song on Seargent Pepper's that I don't especially like is She's Leaving Home. For some reason, that song just kinda bothers me. Although, the more I listen to it, the less it bothers me..

clown_phobia 01-26-2005 05:39 PM

[QUOTE=xxxRoCkJuNkiExxx]The only song on Seargent Pepper's that I don't especially like is She's Leaving Home. For some reason, that song just kinda bothers me. Although, the more I listen to it, the less it bothers me..[/QUOTE]

You should put it on right now :thumb:

xxxRoCkJuNkiExxx 01-26-2005 05:50 PM

[QUOTE=clown_phobia]You should put it on right now :thumb:[/QUOTE]

Not a bad idea...I think I will.

HempKnight 01-26-2005 06:00 PM

sgt peppers is a great cd, a day in the life = the best closing song of all time

Sgt._Joker 01-26-2005 06:18 PM

[QUOTE=HempKnight]sgt peppers is a great cd, a day in the life = the best closing song of all time[/QUOTE]

how bout

Her majesty?

"Her Majesty's a pretty nice girl,
But she doesnt have a lot to say.
Her Majesty's a pretty nice girl,
but she changes from say to day.
I wanna tell that her i love her a lot,
but i gotta get a belly full of wine.
Her Majesty's a pretty nice girl,
Some day i'm gonna make her mine, oh yeah,
so day i'm gonna make her mine!"

that song was a brill song for the beatles to got out on :D so cheeky :lol:

Distant Echoes 01-26-2005 06:23 PM

Her Majesty is the second shortest song on my computer...sounds like they just picked up some old lyrics and went into the studio and played the song really fast, like how most bands make some innovative songs before recording a real song, but throw it on the album anyway. Still good, nonetheless, though i still think a day in the life blows it away. but can someone explain whats goin in that song? Like, is it changing point of views between the weird noises...and whats the significance of the overdubbed sounds at the very end...i get the jist, but dont fully understand

clown_phobia 01-26-2005 06:30 PM

"never to see any other one"

It describes paul after he died.

Sgt._Joker 01-26-2005 06:34 PM

[QUOTE=Distant Echoes]Her Majesty is the second shortest song on my computer...sounds like they just picked up some old lyrics and went into the studio and played the song really fast, like how most bands make some innovative songs before recording a real song, but throw it on the album anyway. Still good, nonetheless, though i still think a day in the life blows it away. but can someone explain whats goin in that song? Like, is it changing point of views between the weird noises...and whats the significance of the overdubbed sounds at the very end...i get the jist, but dont fully understand[/QUOTE]

the beatles wouldn't of done that (about her majesty), they were trying to make a better albumn (abbey road) then Let It Be.
Her Majesty might be short and fast paced... so what?


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