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Dancin' Man 02-04-2005 09:07 PM

Please do (PS I'm hosting a song in the Pit FL. Go listen)

Bartender 02-04-2005 09:10 PM

Just a post to indicate that I edited it in above, in case you hadn't noticed. I'll go check out the Pit one.

Dancin' Man 02-04-2005 09:17 PM

[b]Stormtroopers of Death - Milk[/b]

Never heard of them.

Begins with some bass. Then loud guitars and a sort of growl. Then the real drums come in with a ton of snare that is way too loud and keeps going. Then the vocals which are punk sort of chants. The song is alright when the drums go away but then they come back and it just sucks. Too much snare that is not cool. Mastodon has cool snare work, this band does not. Song is repetitive.

At least it's short. Nice and short.

2/10

I won't look for anymore.

Kadenzza - Monohoke - God of Worm (Awesome Japanese prog metal)

If anyone has heard this, I'll set up another song.
[url]http://s12.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0288OGN46MZDB0QHWCK6BMOWNP[/url]

Dancin' Man 02-04-2005 11:40 PM

Hey all you out there, do my FL. Now.

Huber 02-05-2005 12:06 AM

I'll take dibs

Huber 02-05-2005 12:22 AM

Kadenzza - Monohoke - God of Worm

For about the first 1:30 seconds of the song it kind of alternates between two parts. One part being slower with a riff, basic drum beat, and some kind of keyboard effect in the background. The other part is far faster, with a heavy growl.

at about 1:30 it goes into a nice riff and a neat double-bass beat and then you hear a very nice guitar solo all up until about 2:30.

Then you get a dose of acoustic guitar work, with some percussion and keyboard work in the background. At about 3:40 some dialog is added to the slow acoustic guitar part.

At 3:23 your smacked out of the acoustic guitar and fall right into a huge guitar riff and it stays mellow with a bell ringing in the background until about 4:53 where you hear the same alternating of slow/fast part from the begining.

Then it all ends with some bells ringing and a choir note.

I enjoyed the listen, but it wasn't all that great of a song. I'll give it a...

7/10

Primus - Harold of the Rocks
Iced Earth - The Reckoning
Marilyn Manson - The Fight Song

Permanent Solution 02-05-2005 12:24 AM

I have stuff by all three of those bands, so I would prefer something new, but if not I can d/l one of the songs I don't have...

evil ernie 02-05-2005 01:11 AM

Dibs on that Primus song.

evil ernie 02-05-2005 02:13 AM

[U]Primus - Harold of the Rocks[/U]

First ever Primus song I listen to, but I know them for having a supposely very talented bassist called Les Claypool. I'm eager to hear how good he actually is.

Song starts off and I immediatly dislike the singer's voice. He's got a thin and nasal voice. He is backed up by a nice funky wahwah riff and some cool closed hi-hat drumming. Very cool sounding introduction (except for the vocals), not the kind of stuff I am used to, but I like it, I somehow like the funky groove of that thing. Interesting shift at 0:33, a more chaotic riff, the guitar sound is very raw, the bass very important in the mix. Then returns to the funky verse, then the chaotic riff again, adding a few not so melodic variations. Aaaaahhhh, a bass solo, as expected :) All right he has the skills. Next is a slow paced guitar solo. The solo isn't my cup of tea neither. It is not melodic at all, sounds like a first take, the shredding part at 3:20 is awful in my opinion. The solo is very long, a little over 90 seconds. They then come back to the verse, and what finally seems to be the chorus, which I described as the chaotic riff earlier. Then there's a weird narrative thing in the end, and then an unexpected, weird finish.

I like the funky part of the song and the rythm section of this band seems really strong. I'm more into melodic and emotive music so that's not my thing really much. They are very creative and original, and I guess they are pretty entertaining live, that they enjoy a lot playing that kind of not so serious music.

I'll give it a 5/10, I won't be listening to this song for long, guess I'll delete it in about a week. I don't think I'll look for some more from them neither. I liked some parts, but that is just not my kind of music.

I recommend :

Ayreon - Day 20 : confrontation (massive prog project featuring a lot of singers such as James Labrie, Mikeal Akerfeldt, Irene Jansen, Magnus Elkwall, etc.)
After Forever - Beautiful Emptiness (kinda goth and power, with a male grunter and a female soprano)
Symphony X - Of Sins and Shadows (progressive power metal)
Adagio - Next Profundis (progressive neo-classical metal)
Bozzio/Levin/Stevens - Tragic (prog rock supergroup)

Bartender 02-05-2005 06:53 AM

Bump.

LordDargon 02-05-2005 07:02 AM

Too many people in here do not appreciate the greatness of classic crossover thrash. 1986 and the guy was blasting like that!

[fastfingers]

:angry:

Bartender 02-05-2005 07:13 AM

1985, I thought. Some of the earliest blast beats in that there song. Great lyrics, too.

XyleM 02-05-2005 09:39 AM

You guys should use the site 'yousendit' it would make it much easier for situations like this, I have been trying to find Ayreon - Day 20 but I can't. However if we were using yousendit, the file would be accessible immediately,

Just a thought.

munky_magik 02-05-2005 09:42 AM

You send it has been used.
Proof:
[QUOTE=Bt]I can host it for you.

EDIT: Here you go;

[url]http://s19.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3EZGXPK65MBC212VG1G9FAIW4B[/url][/QUOTE]

Dancin' Man 02-05-2005 09:51 AM

I am much more upset that someone did not hear the genius of Kadenzza than the fact that crossover thrash has bad production.

XyleM 02-05-2005 09:59 AM

[QUOTE='munky magik'] You send it has been used. [/QUOTE]

Thats all well and good, but it isn't being used now when people need it, is it?

munky_magik 02-05-2005 10:10 AM

[QUOTE=XyleM]Thats all well and good, but it isn't being used now when people need it, is it?[/QUOTE]
No, I was just informing you that this idea has been suggested annd used before.

XyleM 02-05-2005 10:13 AM

But it wasn't made mandatory or strongly recommended like the idea behind my post.

munky_magik 02-05-2005 10:16 AM

It can't be made mandatory because not everyone can use/will want to use it.
And your post hardly came across as a strong recommendation.

XyleM 02-05-2005 10:21 AM

Well re-reading it, it really doesn't lol :thumb:

Oh well. It was an idea to make things easier, but hey if you say it isn't gonna work I guess it won't.

munky_magik 02-05-2005 10:25 AM

It'll work for some people, but others don't have the time or connection speed to be able to upload the songs. Others prefer that their music is difficult to find.
Well, I say others. I mean Dargon.

Dancin' Man 02-05-2005 10:28 AM

I'm putting Ayreon on Yousendit right now so stay tuned for your dibs.

3rdplanet 02-05-2005 10:32 AM

[QUOTE=Fast Fingers]I am much more upset that someone did not hear the genius of Kadenzza than the fact that crossover thrash has bad production.[/QUOTE]

I leeched that track, rather good I must say.

And yousentit just won't work for me.

Dancin' Man 02-05-2005 10:32 AM

[url]http://s3.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1MQVU850S0DQZ1HZ6Q503F0011[/url]

day 20

XyleM 02-05-2005 10:59 AM

[u] Ayreon - Day Twenty: Confrontation [/u]

Never heard of these guys before, nor have I heard much like it before. I suppose this is what this thread was intended for though eh?

It begins with a very soft, effect laden guitar riff, very very simple. Two vocalist contrast well at the beginning. Very abruptly into a heavy part of the song, all instuments seem very simple yet effective.

Again back to the opening riff, with the vocalists contrasting and using the 'call and answer' technique. Similarly as to the intro it progressed abruptly into the heavier part, this time their is a female singer and it complements this part perfectly.

This part progresses into a new riff. The song has a very space age sound to it, like when Homer goes into the 3-D land :thumb: All the vocalists are extremly talented, and have a great range. There is a new riff again softer... This continues for a bit and then it is distorted and a more powerful male voice is used, singing the same words as the singer before.

Again back to the beginning riff. Again the call and answer effect is used. Again into the heavier part, this song is starting to get very repeditive.

Whoa, nice little vocal display/solo from the female vocalist, her voice is really full and defined.

The tempo picks up although it is the same chord progression it still is keeping me intersted due to a male vocalist screaming and the female vocalist still utilising her voice. Whoa double kick? Wasn't expecting that. Snare hits increasing, to a very once again abrupt stop where the song is basically completed.

The song reminded me very much of Queen, although the style is different, the vocals harmonising with each other and contrasting just seem make me think of them. The instruments although very simplistic did their job, the guitarist must have used many effects to achieve the sound that he had going.

As expected the thing that carried this song were the vocals. I was, as you all probably can tell, blown away by the female vocalist, her voice was literally awesome to me.

[B]Rating:[/B] 7/10

There was two things that this song lacked, a guitar solo and versatility. The song was too long to have the same structure, and little change in feel and lyrics until the last minute of the song.

Having said that I still really enjoyed the song, thanks fast fingers for uploading it.

My recommendations:

Audioslave - Getaway Car (Very relaxed song, Soft Rock) ([url]http://s3.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2QCS9AH9CAX490PANVZRK46D67[/url])
Deftones - Passenger (ft. Maynard) (Rock) ([url]http://s28.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=129GY5MBU47ER2J75HRVKYV24W[/url])
Incubus - Sick Sad Little World (Incubus Rock) [url]http://s26.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0NZADS8KEHGPL0M9OR9CHLT0YA[/url]
Mudvayne - Internal Primates Forever (Metal)[url]http://s26.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2MOQ8QVWJ04912JYHNW3D18H90[/url]

XyleM 02-05-2005 11:49 AM

Done and Done :thumb:

Bartender 02-05-2005 02:00 PM

Thanks. Dibs.

evil ernie 02-05-2005 02:03 PM

By the way there are three different female voices in this song, but I guess you're talking about Irene Jansen, the power female vocalist.

Bartender 02-05-2005 03:19 PM

Okay, this won't be my first experience with Mudvayne, but I wasn't particularly impressed with what I heard before, so this will be my first time really paying attention to them.
[b]Mudvayne - Internal Primates Forever[/b] - 4:25

Starts off with pretty slow, odd riffing. Drums and (noticeably) bass come in around 0:10, along with vocals. Sounds like he's saying "jump". Verse starts, and I can see how they've gotten their reputation as 'weird'. The whole thing sounds "bitty". The vocals are mostly relatively clean (little growling or anything), but I can't really understand what he's saying. At least, not while typing. The guitar and drums both sound a bit too all-over-the-place for their own good, and it's kind of annoying. I like the bass though, it's fairly prominent and has a good sound.

Sorry, this is going to be a really bad review. There just doesn't seem to be much I can say. The guitars, despite the jerkiness, definitely sound like nu metal, but they're offset by that bass, which is really quite good.

This bit I like more; about 1:41 it's like the gaps between those riffs have been filled in, and there's a more flowing riff, which I like a whole lot more.

Total change of pace from about 2:30 onwards, but I can't keep my mind focused enough to figure out in what way. There's less of the stop-start jerkiness which I disliked before, though it's still present. The song ends with the vocalist (and backing vocals) repeating the title of the song (almost chanting it, but not quietly).

Well, that was weird. I didn't like the jerky, too-stop-start-for-it's-own-good part that the guitar and drums took for most of the song. The bass however, was really good. The vocalist kind of veered between good and bad.

Not sure what to give it. I think a cautious 7/10, and I'l probably have to listen to this more and check them out further.

[b]Songs;[/b]
[url=http://s19.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3DO6KCVJ14UXZ13OEEEN7KJW4Ul=]North - untitled[/url] (relaxed, slightly funky Alt/Indie fodder by a ridiculously good, unsigned college-age band)

[url=http://s19.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=367HOOI9JEQVE1QNCE1MOFY0TN]Nonpoint - Double Stakked[/url] (nu metal)

[url=http://s19.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1ATR27HZU9ORW28AC2R1IGQB3B]Mr Bungle - Girls of ****[/url] (funky experimental stuff. Will probably be an advantage to have some knowledge of po[font=verdana]r[/font]n)

[url=http://s19.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3FGVQJZZQJ6OX0OTRX7R8SEFDM]Anternicy - Holder of the Eye[/url] (self-financed heavy metal)

[url=http://s19.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=05V44QN5L8RTV3ATQKHVS7304M]Mr Lunt - Cheeseburger[/url] (a touching love song, about cheeseburgers)

[url=http://s19.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0AJ424C49M1DK20VPO68P8D47V]Einsturzende Neubauten - Ende Neu[/url] (industrial/experimental)

Copy-pasted from Forced Listening;
That Neubauten track is a live version, with an air compressor solo at the beginning. It's a great piece of music, but unfortunately a lot of it's appeal also lies in it's lyrics, which are in German, and other aspects. The song is very carefully written, both in lyrics and structure, and becomes much greater than it already is if you know it's circumstances and such...not much can be done about that though, so this is just my futile attempt at explaining the inexplicable.

^There were originally only going to be three to choose from, but then MX froze, so I uploaded some more while waiting.

Permanent Solution 02-05-2005 03:23 PM

dibs


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