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FunkMetalBass 10-19-2010 12:30 PM

[quote=fatbandit;18232109]pics or it didn't happen[/quote]

[url]http://image62.webshots.com/162/4/90/56/494349056NziBrA_fs.jpg[/url]


EDIT: Pic is too huge. Sorry mods.

fatbandit 10-19-2010 01:03 PM

ironic.

FunkMetalBass 10-19-2010 01:24 PM

[quote=fatbandit;18232140]ironic.[/quote]

:lol:

+ 10 imaginary rep.

fatbandit 10-19-2010 03:47 PM

I'm totally buzzing off Glassjaw again. Seeing some recent live stuff on Youtube, I can't wait for the EP or LP... It HAS to be coming out soon! Full band version of the Secret Song on EYEWTKAS? Yes please. I know it was arranged specifically for the show they played it at, but I would massively dig a studio version of that.

I'm really not keen on Durijah Lang though :/

Sorry, I don't think anyone except Joel even likes GJ that much :p

funkyhoney 10-19-2010 07:55 PM

In all seriousness, anyone want to buy my 6er?

Convectuoso 10-19-2010 10:26 PM

[quote=fatbandit;18232327]I'm totally buzzing off Glassjaw again. Seeing some recent live stuff on Youtube, I can't wait for the EP or LP... It HAS to be coming out soon! Full band version of the Secret Song on EYEWTKAS? Yes please. I know it was arranged specifically for the show they played it at, but I would massively dig a studio version of that.

I'm really not keen on Durijah Lang though :/

Sorry, I don't think anyone except Joel even likes GJ that much :p[/quote]
No one else has good taste in music.

:cool:

fatbandit 10-20-2010 04:40 AM

Seriously though. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX3ay1EnTO8

gaslight 10-20-2010 04:50 AM

[QUOTE=funkyhoney;18233031]In all seriousness, anyone want to buy my 6er?[/QUOTE]

I'm still not sure I wanted to buy my sixer.

BenJammin 10-20-2010 05:32 AM

6er 4 lyfe

I awkwardly fumble around a 4 string now. Not that I've picked one up in probably over a year, at least.

gaslight 10-20-2010 05:34 AM

So I was bored and looking at my keyboard, and I wonder, if they had geek themed martial arts, would there be a submission hold called the Num Lk?

FunkMetalBass 10-20-2010 07:51 AM

[quote=BenJammin;18233464]6er 4 lyfe

I awkwardly fumble around a 4 string now. Not that I've picked one up in probably over a year, at least.[/quote]

This. If I don't slap on it, I almost feel lost. Once my Brice 6er is back up as my fretless, I will have no use for my Jazz unless I play with a group that specifically requires a fender-style instrument.

Convectuoso 10-20-2010 01:42 PM

The thing with sixers for me is that in a band context, I will never ever need to go higher than the highest note I can get on a G string. Ever. Even as a positioning thing, I'd rather just go up there than deal with extra weight on an already heavy instrument.

Then, for the lows I actually see the benefits of having a C an octave below A string 3rd fret. But other than that, most speakers can't even reproduce those low notes properly and four strings provide adequate lows to fill out that spectrum of a band anyways.


If you're doing solo stuff or prog crazy shit maybe, but even then man, leave the soloing to guitarists :p

FunkMetalBass 10-20-2010 01:55 PM

[quote=Convectuoso;18233912]The thing with sixers for me is that in a band context, I will never ever need to go higher than the highest note I can get on a G string. Ever. Even as a positioning thing, I'd rather just go up there than deal with extra weight on an already heavy instrument.

Then, for the lows I actually see the benefits of having a C an octave below A string 3rd fret. But other than that, most speakers can't even reproduce those low notes properly and four strings provide adequate lows to fill out that spectrum of a band anyways.


If you're doing solo stuff or prog crazy shit maybe, but even then man, leave the soloing to guitarists :p[/quote]

I like to play awesome non-muddy chords behind the guitarist. I use my C-string for a lot of harmonics too. One time, we also had a 4-octave run of a B harmonic minor. 6-strings made life really nice.

BenJammin 10-20-2010 03:55 PM

Several of our songs I play chords or melodies or things which require the higher notes. Maybe not *require* but it sure makes for more comfortable positioning and nicer tone. But I could cut my C string off before you could make me part with my B.

FunkMetalBass 10-20-2010 04:39 PM

[quote=BenJammin;18234050]Several of our songs I play chords or melodies or things which require the higher notes. Maybe not *require* but it sure makes for more comfortable positioning and nicer tone. But I could cut my C string off before you could make me part with my B.[/quote]

This.

I even keep one of my 4-strings tuned BEAD solely because the low B is the most necessary string in existence.

fatbandit 10-20-2010 04:52 PM

I've been having a lot of joy tuning my bass to DGCF recently, it's been massively handy for two covers projects I've been doing.

As for the high C... I use the C and the F above it too. I don't do anything crazy proggy, no solos, and I don't really use it for positional stuff (it normally feels better playing that kind of stuff further up the neck for me anyway).

But listening to Glassjaw just makes me want to grind away on the low D string :(

FlamingCouch 10-20-2010 06:35 PM

[QUOTE=fatbandit;18232038]The planning involved for this hurts my head. I'm also not that harsh, although I love the idea :P[/QUOTE]

Jeez, this is so easy. Just tell her you're a serial killer!

and then if she says she gets off on killers.... well, kill her.

Win.

FlamingCouch 10-20-2010 06:42 PM

and seeing as I never talk about bass, and I'm in the bass forum...

It seems every time I play my Jazz lately I find myself loving the tone but feeling like the neck is too thick. Trouble? Tell me about it. those necks are fairly thin to begin with and I'm finding myself worn out in twenty minutes. I've been playing my Spector a lot again lately though and am finding the neck wicked comfortable. Of course I'm now debating whether or not to keep it for sale.

Joe you asked a billion years ago (I think it was you?) about pictures of it...
[img]http://www.fsjnow.com/classifieds/images/141659_1322x47gbKi2HFK4.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.fsjnow.com/classifieds/images/141659_13490ZDGlxgnhI4Q.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.fsjnow.com/classifieds/images/141659_1349f9BzEumvSmpW.jpg[/img]

FlamingCouch 10-20-2010 06:46 PM

[QUOTE=HELLonWHEELS;18231526]So i completely forgot about this website until today. Hi guys.[/QUOTE]

Were you not the guy who put some kinda crazy design in his fingerboard?

gaslight 10-20-2010 10:05 PM

[QUOTE=fatbandit;18234137]I've been having a lot of joy tuning my bass to DGCF recently, it's been massively handy for two covers projects I've been doing.[/QUOTE]

What stuff are you covering?

Sablate McNuff 10-20-2010 11:17 PM

[quote=fatbandit;18234137]I've been having a lot of joy tuning my bass to DGCF recently, it's been massively handy for two covers projects I've been doing.

As for the high C... I use the C and the F above it too. I don't do anything crazy proggy, no solos, and I don't really use it for positional stuff (it normally feels better playing that kind of stuff further up the neck for me anyway).

But listening to Glassjaw just makes me want to grind away on the low D string :([/quote]

I don't use my 8-string enough in band situations, but I'm sure I could find a use for the high F and low F# if I did.

[quote=FlamingCouch;18234360]and seeing as I never talk about bass, and I'm in the bass forum...

It seems every time I play my Jazz lately I find myself loving the tone but feeling like the neck is too thick. Trouble? Tell me about it. those necks are fairly thin to begin with and I'm finding myself worn out in twenty minutes. I've been playing my Spector a lot again lately though and am finding the neck wicked comfortable. Of course I'm now debating whether or not to keep it for sale.

Joe you asked a billion years ago (I think it was you?) about pictures of it...

[3 pics]

[/quote]
Yes, it probably was me. I'm the resident Spector lover up in hurr. I found another Spector Legend 6 for sale (majorly discounted too), and I'm highly considering selling my Schecter Studio 6 to fund it and the electronics upgrade (+ some $$ left over). The neck on the Spectors is incredibly comfortable. And aside from the neckdive that they have, my only real beef with them is the awkwardness of the bridge. Solid instruments all-around, though.

gaslight 10-20-2010 11:41 PM

Extended range basses are cool and all as long as you can still get the job done on a four string.

Sablate McNuff 10-21-2010 12:00 AM

[quote=gaslight;18234905]Extended range basses are cool and all as long as you can still get the job done on a four string.[/quote]

That's completely dependent upon what the job calls for. [omg, ended with a preposition!]

Country gig? 4-string.
Dream Theater cover band? 6-string.
Marching Band? A tuba.

Truthfully, I will play a 6-string whenever I can because I love the feel of it, even if I only use two strings.

gaslight 10-21-2010 12:13 AM

I agree with what you're saying there if we can paraphrase it thusly

Working = 4 string
Wanking = 6 string
Marching band = one string fashioned into a noose

:lol:

fatbandit 10-21-2010 01:04 AM

idk, if you like the feel of them, why not use them? i'm sure plenty of punk guitarists only use 4 of their strings, but nobody rags on them for having too many strings or anything. i think of it as more of an instrument in its own right than just a bass with a bass role. and to be honest, i think give it a few decades, and you'll see more 5 string basses than 4 string basses. just seems like a logical progression.

gaslight 10-21-2010 01:14 AM

There's nothing wrong with stretching the boundaries, I have a six and it's fun, but I've never hopped back on a four string and felt limited because of it.

I just have the strong feeling that a lot of people think they "outgrow" a four string bass and it really rubs me the wrong way because that isn't how playing works.

I'm not accusing you of having that attitude or anything, just there are some people who do and I have nowhere else to vent about it :).

FunkMetalBass 10-21-2010 09:58 AM

[quote=gaslight;18235017]There's nothing wrong with stretching the boundaries, I have a six and it's fun, but I've never hopped back on a four string and felt limited because of it.

I just have the strong feeling that a lot of people think they "outgrow" a four string bass and it really rubs me the wrong way because that isn't how playing works.

I'm not accusing you of having that attitude or anything, just there are some people who do and I have nowhere else to vent about it :).[/quote]

Some people just crave that extended range. "If I just had one or two more notes lower/higher"...

To some degree, people can and do outgrow instruments. It's the reason most of us don't use our starter instruments, completely stock, for our entire lives as our main instruments. You outgrow the neck thickness, the electronics, the hardware, the string spacing, the paint job, the woods...why is it that the number of strings is so highly criticized, but nobody bats an eye at the other million aspects of personalization?

gaslight 10-21-2010 10:46 AM

It's interesting you make the last point that way, because what upsets me is when I see people that seem to be criticising a four for its number of strings.

I don't know anyone who could honestly say, that they had exhausted every musical possibility on a four string bass, or even exhausted every possibility within the first twelve frets of one, because there's no such thing as doing that, it's only possible to exhaust your own creativity, because there is so much more to the "range" of an instrument than just physically what spectrum of frequencies it can reproduce is.

I never can quite distill my thoughts on this topic enough to come across as anything but a rambling fuckwit so I do apologise for starting up the same old thing again, and I want to stress I'm not putting anyone down for how many strings they want, but like, when I think about players like Mingus and Ray Brown, who spent their whole lives doing so much with four string basses, then there are people who talk down a four string bass like it's not enough for them, and it just makes me a bit sad I guess is the word.

Like, maybe someone decides they want some lower notes, and that's cool, but I just hope they aren't thinking "yeah, I've mastered four strings now, I'm moving on" because you know they haven't. It's just imagining that kind of thinking is going on, that's the only thing that rubs me the wrong way about it all, everything else I'm completely fine with.

I find that with a lot of things I think about, my issue is almost always with the attitude or intentions behind something, rather than the thing itself. Ah, one day I'll just learn to keep quiet haha.

FunkMetalBass 10-21-2010 01:33 PM

If the thought starts with "I've mastered..." then that person is in the completely wrong mindset. There is no measurement to potential, creativity, and art. Sure, you can master something like Western Music Theory - it's a distinct, rigid set of rules, and it has a definitive end to its size. Mastering something that is unmeasurable is like trying to argue that you have counted all of the real numbers between any closed interval.

I don't think I've even played every fret on any of my basses, and I wouldn't doubt that many folks who have been playing for 50+ years have ever played every possible fretted note on his/her instrument (in some musical context, not just arbitrary slides or testing for fret buzz). I think 4-string basses suck [u]for me[/u], both ergonomically (large string spacing is no bueno) and for my piece of mind (oh no! less notes in any position).

fatbandit 10-21-2010 02:58 PM

I am limited when I jump back on a 4 string, but only for trying to play songs I've written in my band where I require the extra strings. For doing anything else, I'm fine with 4. There's a time and a place for every bass! I haven't outgrown or mastered a 4 though. But I do have fun playing a 7. I enjoy it. And ultimately, that's the main thing in this I think. If you have fun playing music, why does it matter what your weapon of choice is? :)


As for what covers I've been playing, it's been some wedding stuff - typical wedding songs really. Anything from Hiho Silver Lining, through Sir Duke, Patrick Swayze and more. Also been doing a kind of 90s alternative rock cover band. That's been stuff like Weezer, Placebo, Foo Fighters etc.


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