[QUOTE=Stevie IV;16470615]i think they'd be preaching to the converted more than anything. i think that graveland wouldn't have converted many.[/QUOTE]

nonsense he converts tons of young men willing to prance through forests in full armor!

[QUOTE=DERSIEGDERKRIEGDERKAMPF;16470619]Um those internet sites hardly represent the whole movement as some people are more interested in doing something than sitting at home typing about it.[/QUOTE]

Well I should hope so, because the internet NS warriors are pretty pathetic.

[QUOTE=Angmar;16470609]Yeah but almost all the time anyone who listens to Nokturnal Mortum, Dub Buk and the like listen to it simply because they like folk metal and such, if they didn't have racist views before I doubt a bands lyrics could prompt them to have them.[/QUOTE]

How do you know this in the case for most people? I have met enough people at shows and seen enough people online who are into the NS views NM has just as much as the music. Hell, there were even some faggots in Toronto who made a facebook group to try and bring NM here because they changed their whole views on life etc.

Besides being an ideology that offends most, the NS movement gains no ground because (as i stated earlier) there is no serious leadership and intellectuals at it's helm. People can't take most of it seriously. Its a different story in Europe, though.

[QUOTE=DERSIEGDERKRIEGDERKAMPF;16470632]How do you know this in the case for most people? I have met enough people at shows and seen enough people online who are into the NS views NM has just as much as the music. Hell, there were even some large bundle of stickss in Toronto who made a facebook group to try and bring NM here because they changed their whole views on life etc.[/QUOTE]

Speaking of Nokturnal Mortum and accessible music as propaganda, have you heard their new song they played live? Pretty much exactly what you were talking about before. Gimme a sec to find a youtube link.

That's pretty lame if Nokturnal Mortum changed your whole view on life (or any band for that matter).

Obviously the NS movement is worthless and is not the solution but im sure most bands with these ideologies would rather believe its the solution instead of being a part of the problem, regardless of how hopeless the movement is.

[QUOTE=DERSIEGDERKRIEGDERKAMPF;16470652]Obviously the NS movement is worthless and is not the solution but im sure most bands with these ideologies would rather believe its the solution instead of being a part of the problem, regardless of how hopeless the movement is.[/QUOTE]

In your opinion what do you think makes it worthless?

Its never going to amount to anything and the premise is all wrong, thinking all of a sudden if you have a white nation all the problems would be solved is ignorant and stupid because whites are as much of a part of the problem as everyone else.

[url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=RYN2a81u8rE[/url]

new NM song, really bouncy and lots of clean singing

and I also saw they did a tour with Satyricon which also could indicate that they want to spread their 'propaganda' further

[QUOTE=DERSIEGDERKRIEGDERKAMPF;16470667]Its never going to amount to anything and the premise is all wrong, thinking all of a sudden if you have a white nation all the problems would be solved is ignorant and stupid because whites are as much of a part of the problem as everyone else.[/QUOTE]

Ah, I forgot you had a pretty misanthropic point of view.

What I mean though is whites are a part of the problem in a different way.

[QUOTE=DERSIEGDERKRIEGDERKAMPF;16470667]Its never going to amount to anything and the premise is all wrong, thinking all of a sudden if you have a white nation all the problems would be solved is ignorant and stupid because whites are as much of a part of the problem as everyone else.[/QUOTE]

i agree that it will never get anywhere; at least until all knowledge of the holocaust perishes, but many nazis do recognise whites as part of the problem.

OK - nationalists

[QUOTE=DERSIEGDERKRIEGDERKAMPF;16470677]What I mean though is whites are a part of the problem in a different way.[/QUOTE]

How so?

most of the problems in the world can be attributed to whites tbh

Eh, yeah.

No way, it's 'cause the jews are plotting to destroy the white race!

SIEG HEIL!

Nokturnal Mortum sucks.

TOTAL WAR IS SACRED

WE DECLARE TOTAL WAR! Slava!

man, i just realised my anniversary is 4/8/8
if only i had waited ten days....

Unsure if anyone here likes Nazxul, but apparently they just finished recording [i]Iconoclast[/i] for the third time. I'm hoping that the 3rd times a charm and it actually gets released this time.

Nazxul kinda bore me. They aren't bad, just seems like most of their songs are fillers.

[QUOTE=G_Mac07;16476816]Unsure if anyone here likes Nazxul, but apparently they just finished recording [i]Iconoclast[/i] for the third time. I'm hoping that the 3rd times a charm and it actually gets released this time.[/QUOTE]

OH **** YEAH HEAVEN SHALL BURN

jun jun jun GERMAN

junman

anyone into Darkspace

[QUOTE=Dies Irae;16477385]junman[/QUOTE]

Juntman

Sprechen zie Breakdowns? LOL

[QUOTE=1338 h4x0r;16477529]anyone into Darkspace[/QUOTE]

:wave:




oh and lulz: [url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=8oG_KGeJr6o[/url]

Darkspace are awesome (see my reviews on the reviews site)

What do you guys think of Belgian black metal? (Eljudnir, Donar's Krieg, Elfenbloed, Kwelhekse etc)

**** belgium are good for chocolate thats ALL

They're good for weird power/doom hybrids haha