[url]http://www.myspace.com/burtonwagner[/url] as long as we're whoring 9_9

Sorry though this is really dull post-rock I write in the basement of my art school

the last few pages of this thread just may be the worst i can recall seeing in here. it doesn't matter if it's an internet community or a "real" community, you should still treat the other members with some decency. an unprovoked attack on another member's music should have no place here.

[QUOTE=srt-4;13580338]the last few pages of this thread just may be the worst i can recall seeing in here. it doesn't matter if it's an internet community or a "real" community, you should still treat the other members with some decency. an unprovoked attack on another member's music should have no place here.[/QUOTE]

lol okay.

mr. i'm all friendly and a f[U]a[/U]ggot.

why don't you take a trip to "the land of make-believe" and chill with King Friday?

He didn't attack him, he just said he thought the music sucked

I mean when you whore out a band that's going to happen if someone doesn't like it, I think it's lame to hold back or lie about it just because it's another member of the stupid board

Once again, I can't comprehend arguing against respect.

It's more respectful to tell the truth about what you think about a person's music in my opinion

Not to mention it's lame and stupidly disrespectful to bash someone just because they don't like your band

As well as you probably most likely can't comprehend the fact some people don't enjoy d[I]i[/I]ck in their mouth.

@ andre

[QUOTE=pixiesfanyo;13580368]lol okay.

mr. i'm all friendly and a f[U]a[/U]ggot.

why don't you take a trip to "the land of make-believe" and chill with King Friday?[/QUOTE]
ok, e-hardass. does it make you feel good to act tough on here when you don't have the balls to do it in real life?

its not "the land of make-believe." like andre has been saying, its about respect. i have friends that make music that i'm not into, and i tell them its not my thing. but i still go out to their shows when i can to support them. i can not like thier music and still show them some repsect.

[QUOTE=pixiesfanyo;13580419]As well as you probably most likely can't comprehend the fact some people don't enjoy d[I]i[/I]ck in their mouth.

@ andre[/QUOTE]

;)

It seems like it'd be more respectful to offer constructive criticism instead of just dissing. And he responded in like; pfy took the piss, so Chris took the piss, and then pfy kept pushing and it escalated.

[QUOTE=SubtleDagger;13580415]It's more respectful to tell the truth about what you think about a person's music in my opinion[/QUOTE]
no, it is not respectful to mock a person's music.

[QUOTE=srt-4;13580452]ok, e-hardass. does it make you feel good to act tough on here when you don't have the balls to do it in real life?[/QUOTE]

I don't really think that's the case here. He said Chris' band sucks, he didn't say he was going to come to his house and beat him up in front of his parents like Shane does. Which is so f[size=2]u[/size]cking lame I can't even believe he bothers saying things like that.

[QUOTE=srt-4;13580461]no, it is not respectful to mock a person's music.[/QUOTE]
It's called criticism

Believe it or not criticism isn't always disrespectful

Like I said though, it's just as lame to bash someone just because they don't like your band

Yeah. Being honest and saying "Your music is ****ing horrible" is not more respectful than "I don't really dig your music". I don't see how you could ever argue that.

[QUOTE=Skrunnch;13580491]Yeah. Being honest and saying "Your music is ****ing horrible" is not more respectful than "I don't really dig your music". I don't see how you could ever argue that.[/QUOTE]
Who gives a sh[size=2]it[/size]

Oh right, you guys because you have your panties in a bunch

Seriously, it's unbelievable how worked up you get over someone saying a band sucks; if he had said some hxc or emo band sucked you'd let it go but god forbid he could say the same thing about someone on the board's band because bashing people you don't know is all well and good

It's also pretty unbelieveable that people find it so hard to be nice on this board. You spend enough time here you might as well make some friends.

[QUOTE=Luxor;13580477]I don't really think that's the case here. He said Chris' band sucks, he didn't say he was going to come to his house and beat him up in front of his parents like Shane does. Which is so f[size=2]u[/size]cking lame I can't even believe he bothers saying things like that.[/QUOTE]
so in real life, if somebody that you had hung out with for a few years showed you their music, you would tell them a mocking little analogy about how their band sucks?

sure, its lame that shane says that because we all know its just too impractical to carry out. the idea isn't lame though. people get to treat other people on the internet in a way that would certainly get their asses beat in real life. it would be nice if some *** kickings got handed out.

[QUOTE=Skrunnch;13580567]It's also pretty unbelieveable that people find it so hard to be nice on this board. You spend enough time here you might as well make some friends.[/QUOTE]
exactly. people will spend countless hours of their life on here, but then they want to pretend that are above treating it like a real community.

[QUOTE=srt-4;13580574]so in real life, if somebody that you had hung out with for a few years showed you their music, you would tell them a mocking little analogy about how their band sucks?

sure, its lame that shane says that because we all know its just too impractical to carry out. the idea isn't lame though. people get to treat other people on the internet in a way that would certainly get their asses beat in real life. it would be nice if some *** kickings got handed out.[/QUOTE]
It would be nicer if you'd stop taking an internet forum so damn seriously that you're wanting to beat people up over someone saying a band sucks

The only reason the last few pages have been so ridiculous is because a select group of people can't lighten up and chill out, they have to get upset over the slightest thing at any opportunity they get because gof forbid someone say something bad about someone's band on here

People talk sh[size=2]it[/size] to each other in here all the time and it gets shrugged off but once someone says something about Chris' band OMG TOTAL DISRESPECT

And I find it funny you were talking about Jared being a tough guy a few posts ago when he's just goofing off and you're talking about beating his as[size=2]s[/size] and sounding ridiculous

[QUOTE=srt-4;13580574]so in real life, if somebody that you had hung out with for a few years showed you their music, you would tell them a mocking little analogy about how their band sucks?

sure, its lame that shane says that because we all know its just too impractical to carry out. the idea isn't lame though. people get to treat other people on the internet in a way that would certainly get their asses beat in real life. it would be nice if some *** kickings got handed out.[/QUOTE]

I would and I have.

I also thinks it's funny how someone said it would be okay to bash some "noobs" band, but not Chris' because he's an old member. New members are peoples too you stink dinks.

[QUOTE=Luxor;13580644]I would and I have.

I also thinks it's funny how someone said it would be okay to bash some "noobs" band, but not Chris' because he's an old member. New members are peoples too you stink dinks.[/QUOTE]
Yeah people have come in h/e a thousand times before asking for people to listen to their horrible band and they get wrecked

If you're in fairly regular communication with someone, message board or not, you "know them", you're an acquaintance. The internet is chaning norms in that respect, and you can't dismiss people or be a total prick just because it's internet-based. As far as I'm concerned, relationships via a fairly tight online community should be approached and respected just as a community "in real life". It's certainly cheesy and harkens back to the anarchist idealism of treating every relationship throughout your day as a relationship between friends, lovers, or family, but I think there's some truth in it. With internet communities mirroring real "scenes", and internet friends mirroring real-life friends, I think a little more respect is due. Like I said, saying "blah blah blah, it's the internet. don't take it seriously" is moot these days, because the internet itself is changing pre-conceived notions of what makes a community or a friendship "real".

What I'm trying to get at is that I don't talk sh[size=2]it[/size] to the bands in my real-life scene/music community that I don't like, regardless of how awful they are, because they're just like me, and I'd expect the same from them.

And if Chris and Jared had any sort of valid internet relationship that would be a great point

But really Jared just listened to the music and thought it sucked, and they hardly even know each other so it's hardly disrespectful

Saying you think a band sucks is hardly grounds for blowing up on someone anyway, people say my music sucks all the time; whether they're joking or not it's not a big deal in the slightest especially since I know those people about as well as Chris "knows" Jared... it's not even close to personal

Wow, everyone shut the f[size="2"]u[/size]ck up.

[QUOTE=whiteminority;13580783]Wow, everyone shut the f[size="2"]u[/size]ck up.[/QUOTE]

For real.

[QUOTE=AndreTheHyena;13580742]If you're in fairly regular communication with someone, message board or not, you "know them", you're an acquaintance. The internet is chaning norms in that respect, and you can't dismiss people or be a total prick just because it's internet-based. As far as I'm concerned, relationships via a fairly tight online community should be approached and respected just as a community "in real life". It's certainly cheesy and harkens back to the anarchist idealism of treating every relationship throughout your day as a relationship between friends, lovers, or family, but I think there's some truth in it. With internet communities mirroring real "scenes", and internet friends mirroring real-life friends, I think a little more respect is due. Like I said, saying "blah blah blah, it's the internet. don't take it seriously" is moot these days, because the internet itself is changing pre-conceived notions of what makes a community or a friendship "real".

What I'm trying to get at is that I don't talk sh[size=2]it[/size] to the bands in my real-life scene/music community that I don't like, regardless of how awful they are, because they're just like me, and I'd expect the same from them.[/QUOTE]
exactly

Burt is just covering Jared's a[size=2]s[/size]s for him as usual. He did not just say he didn't like my band, he was being a straight up f[size=2]u[/size]cking dick about it, as usual.

Whatever, everyone seems to agree that Jared is a f[size=2]u[/size]cking elitist dick, so whatever.

Um you're being a pretty big dick about it Chris

You tend to do that whenever someone disagrees with you

For example, did you ever actually download that technical NJ tab I worked on for like two hours

lol no, send it to me right now on AIM

I am not a f[size=2]u[/size]cking dick when someone disagrees with me. When Jared makes dumb f[size=2]u[/size]cking arguments I tend to lose my patience. Or when he's a f[size=2]u[/size]cking dick. Seriously 95% of his posts are negative, the only time he has something good to say is when it's about one of his precious bands that are of course pushing the boundaries of music.

Haha dude all he said was your band sucks, I seriously am so used to that it doesn't even come close to bothering me anymore

[url]http://download.yousendit.com/B76EBA685AA50A20[/url] << NJ tab

Hey guys can we not talk about this.

Thanks.

Name this quote:
ALL I EVER ASK
IS FOR A CLEAN BREAK
/voice completely shatters

Hahaha, Burt nice tab. The first riff is not that at all. And way to tab one of the easiest songs on the album.

Um not really, the first riff is indeed that, I know because it's really really obvious

Also you're the one who was like OH YEAH WELL TAB THIS MISTER TECHNICAL >:|

Nah, let me send you the track I sent sir Jared.

Actually, can you upload that Botch tab you made too?

[url]http://download.yousendit.com/26F4733D7C288871[/url]

I also have tabs for Broken Vow and Bitter And Then Some laying around

Also you're insane if you think I'm tabbing another NJ song, I was forced to listen to that track like five to ten times and that was hell

[QUOTE=whiteminority;13581133]Hey guys can we not talk about this.

Thanks.

Name this quote:
ALL I EVER ASK
IS FOR A CLEAN BREAK
/voice completely shatters[/QUOTE]

CTTS

[QUOTE=Chris]Seriously 95% of his posts are negative, the only time he has something good to say is when it's about one of his precious bands that are of course pushing the boundaries of music.[/QUOTE]

Hahaha, this is true.

HAY GUYZ WOTS GOING ON IN HERE?

Sup, guys?

[QUOTE=SubtleDagger;13581278][url]http://download.yousendit.com/26F4733D7C288871[/url]

I also have tabs for Broken Vow and Bitter And Then Some laying around

Also you're insane if you think I'm tabbing another NJ song, I was forced to listen to that track like five to ten times and that was hell[/QUOTE]

Scared? You said you didn't mind O' God, The Aftermath earlier in this thread so obviously you listen to it.

What no I didn't

If I did I probably meant Bless The Martyr and I also probably said it years ago when I had heard three tracks and somehow thought they were dece when they really weren't that hot

Nah, we were talking about Redeemer and you said, "O' God, The Aftermath was only mediocre."