[QUOTE=Diabolus in Musica]I honetsly like that because is keeps the songs fresh, and say alot about their creativity, but all that is just my opinion.[/QUOTE]
It keeps them fresh, but at some points they don't seem like songs. At times it sounds like just a bunch of separate riffs piled together.

I still like it though, but the structure a bit slack.

[QUOTE=Thor]It keeps them fresh, but at some points they don't seem like songs. At times it sounds like just a bunch of separate riffs piled together.

I still like it though, but the structure a bit slack.[/QUOTE]
For some reason I don't get that sense.

[QUOTE=Diabolus in Musica]For some reason I don't get that sense.[/QUOTE]
I don't get it on most of their songs, but there are a few times on Orchid and Morningrise where the song does a total 360 on me and it confuses me a bit. It doesn't anymore because I know the songs very well, but for a first time listener I could see them thinking that the songs could be a bit random at times.

[QUOTE=Thor]I don't get it on most of their songs, but there are a few times on Orchid and Morningrise where the song does a total 360 on me and it confuses me a bit. It doesn't anymore because I know the songs very well, but for a first time listener I could see them thinking that the songs could be a bit random at times.[/QUOTE]
I get what you're saying now, basically that they take a complete change in the feel and sound in the middle of the song.

Yeah, now you're getting what I'm saying. Do you agree, or do you just now comprehend what I was trying to tell you?

Finally got my lamentations DVD last week. :D I was impressed. They play great live.

[QUOTE=Futuro]Finally got my lamentations DVD last week. :D I was impressed. They play great live.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I just got mine yesterday and I've been watching it alot.

While the performance is fan-freakin-tastic, I still wish there were older songs on there. But you can't have everything.

[QUOTE=Futuro]Finally got my lamentations DVD last week. :D I was impressed. They play great live.[/QUOTE]
The only problem is they really don't change anything from on the albums...they just play the songs exactly as recorded. I guess now with Per they rearrange things for keyboards, but not on the DVD.

[QUOTE=Thor]It's true, the original songs didn't have as much structure as the new ones did, but I don't see much of a problem with that. They were younger and not as experienced musicians. They've all become alot better and know much more about how to write a song that would keep a listnener hooked alot more.

New Opeth is alot easier on the ears than the older material was. It's less confusing if you ask me. But don't get me wrong, the older material is still fantastic stuff. They've just gotten better with time.[/QUOTE]

I still love Morningrise and Orchid alot, Its just that I prefer to have a flow to the song. And yes, I know about the points you've made.

and congrats on the DVD coming in:thumb:

I think that it was Thor that I was discussing with about the DVD.

[QUOTE=Thor]Yeah, now you're getting what I'm saying. Do you agree, or do you just now comprehend what I was trying to tell you?[/QUOTE]
I personally love there early stuff because of that fact, so no I don't agree but comprehend what you are saying:thumb: .

[QUOTE=Thor]Yeah I just got mine yesterday and I've been watching it alot.

While the performance is fan-freakin-tastic, I still wish there were older songs on there. But you can't have everything.[/QUOTE]

I know what you mean. For awhile I was wondering why there wasnt the older stuff on there til I realized they had different labels.

[QUOTE=Crysiss]I know what you mean. For awhile I was wondering why there wasnt the older stuff on there til I realized they had different labels.[/QUOTE]

Apparently they played Demon of the Fall as an encore at the show, but it obviously wasn't put on the DVD.

*sigh*

Label reasons. Opeth's label at the time didn't own the rights to any of their pre BWP stuff.

Which is funny because without knowing that and watching the DVD, it looks like they just dicked the crowd despite all the "Demon" chants :lol:

[QUOTE=Det_Nosnip]Label reasons. Opeth's label at the time didn't own the rights to any of their pre BWP stuff.[/QUOTE]

Really? Man, I always thought they just dicked the crowd, like you^ said. I feel a bit better about it now.

Which one's better, My Arms, Your Hearse or Blackwaterpark? I actually sat here for like 5 minutes debating and I can't pick. They both have so much good songs on them.

MAYH in personal opinion.

Last night was a slight let down for me setlist wise, (Sydney Opeth show)

Ghost of perdition
White cluster
The amen corner
The baying of the hounds
Closure
Under the weeping moon
The grand conjuration
The Leper affinity

I would've prefered to see some tracks like

Moonlapse Vertigo
April Ethereal
Bleak
Advent
Atonement
Demon of the fall
windowpane

But that's just my preference, it was a decent show though:).

No Demon of the Fall?

[QUOTE=UpperDecker]Which one's better, My Arms, Your Hearse or Blackwaterpark? I actually sat here for like 5 minutes debating and I can't pick. They both have so much good songs on them.[/QUOTE]
I'm going with MAYH.

A tough one indeed... BWP I have more history with, but MAYH has the consistency that BWP doesn't have, so I'll give it to MAYH. Though I think the song BWP is better then anything on The Hearse.

Ehh...I think BWP is better than Hearse in terms of overall quality AND consistency.

[QUOTE=Deth]No Demon of the Fall?[/QUOTE]
ITs been out of their set for a while now. They didn't play it when I saw them.

[QUOTE]I think Mikael wanted Ghost Reveries to be a really dark album, and I believe he succeeded to some degree... The problem is though, part of what makes some of the earlier Opeth albums so dark and atmospheric, is the fact that the production is so bad/muddy.. And I think Mikael doesn't want to move away from the crystal clear production they've had since blackwater park[/QUOTE]

Production has little to do with that. I feel the song writing on Ghost wasn't actually that evil.

[QUOTE]It keeps them fresh, but at some points they don't seem like songs. At times it sounds like just a bunch of separate riffs piled together.

I still like it though, but the structure a bit slack.[/QUOTE]

Well last night when they played Under a Weeping Moon, Mik asked the crowd if they liked it, one guy said no he just smiled and said "well you’re just not smart enough for that song."

So I saw them last night, my first proper metal gig and it was nothing short of amazing. They were so tight and sounding perfect. I had never being to a proper and every band I ever really saw sounded horrible or not that great, but I was flabbergasted at the exact perfect sounds this band brought and not an ounce of messiness. I was waiting too see if it was true about Mikeal the funny man and yes it was true. At the start of the show, "be ready for a night of sh*t humour." hahah yes it was dry but you couldn't help but laugh.

Setlist was:

Ghost of Perdition
White Cluster
The Amen Corner
The Baying of the Hounds
Closure
Under a Weeping Moon
The Grand Conjuration
The Leper Affinity

Encore:
Soldier of Fortune (Deep Purple Cover)
Deliverance

TGC was soooo good live, along with Closure, TLA and to end the concert there was nothing like the repetitive BANG BABAB BANG BANG of Deliverance. That was cool.

Mik's jokes

Because it was at a theme park Mik said "yaa the carousels outside will suck power from my amp now and again but that’s wonderful."

"Mendez is going to get naked and suck his long co*k" (Mendez gives cheeky grin" PS: He looks so cool live.

"I f-ing love your country, actually I have being f-ing in you country, I had my honeymoon in this country, I have had blow jobs in the country".

And many many more, actually sometimes you were common get on with it.

The gig was the most people who had ever came and saw them. WHich I found amazing consirdering it was in Australia.

Someone call out Black Rose Immortal and Mik said "You only like that friggin song because its 20 mins long. You wanna see us suffer. I played a riff of that song the other day and no one knew it" Play a little bit of Black Rose.

The opening act the eternal was pretty cool, so I brought their CD.

Great great time.

[QUOTE=Slapping Penguin]Production has little to do with that. I feel the song writing on Ghost wasn't actually that evil.



Well last night when they played Under a Weeping Moon, Mik asked the crowd if they liked it, one guy said no he just smiled and said "well you’re just not smart enough for that song."

So I saw them last night, my first proper metal gig and it was nothing short of amazing. They were so tight and sounding perfect. I had never being to a proper and every band I ever really saw sounded horrible or not that great, but I was flabbergasted at the exact perfect sounds this band brought and not an ounce of messiness. I was waiting too see if it was true about Mikeal the funny man and yes it was true. At the start of the show, "be ready for a night of sh*t humour." hahah yes it was dry but you couldn't help but laugh.

Setlist was:

Ghost of Perdition
White Cluster
The Amen Corner
The Baying of the Hounds
Closure
Under a Weeping Moon
The Grand Conjuration
The Leper Affinity

Encore:
Soldier of Fortune (Deep Purple Cover)
Deliverance

TGC was soooo good live, along with Closure, TLA and to end the concert there was nothing like the repetitive BANG BABAB BANG BANG of Deliverance. That was cool.

Mik's jokes

Because it was at a theme park Mik said "yaa the carousels outside will suck power from my amp now and again but that’s wonderful."

"Mendez is going to get naked and suck his long co*k" (Mendez gives cheeky grin" PS: He looks so cool live.

"I f-ing love your country, actually I have being f-ing in you country, I had my honeymoon in this country, I have had blow jobs in the country".

And many many more, actually sometimes you were common get on with it.

The gig was the most people who had ever came and saw them. WHich I found amazing consirdering it was in Australia.

Someone call out Black Rose Immortal and Mik said "You only like that friggin song because its 20 mins long. You wanna see us suffer. I played a riff of that song the other day and no one knew it" Play a little bit of Black Rose.

The opening act the eternal was pretty cool, so I brought their CD.

Great great time.[/QUOTE]


Last night was one of the best nights of my life.Easily the best show ive been to.I was very happy with the setlist,mainly cos they played The Lepper Affinity which i was praying they play.I recorded the whole concert on a tape voice recorder.The quality is fairly **** in the distorted sections,but sounds reasonable in the soft parts and while mike is talking between songs.It will just good to go back and listen to it.

More funny stuff:

Mike to the crowd after the first song "Shh,Shh....Shut up"

"I love this country,i had my honeymoon here.Ive been ****ing in this country......and even got blow jobs too".

"People has this big perception that everyone in Sweeden just **** all the time and all the chicks have blonde hair and big tits.......Its true!"

Theres more i will put up later.

I waited around after and the band pulled out of the car park thing in front of us, i was hoping they would stop to sing **** but the just waved and kept going.So that was a little annoying.Overall though,an amazing night.Imo the best song live was White Cluster.It blew me away and will now be one of my favourite songs from them.

I know i'm going to get flamed to the sh*ts for this, but Mike's clean vocals last night were terrible, i'm not sure if it was a tech issue, but they sounded all nasal and at times, chipmunk-ish, it ruined a lot of clean parts for me. I was really dissapointed in the setlist, as i mentioned above, because they only really displayed one side of their music, and as we all know, Opeth is a 2-sided band. My favourite song of the night was either The amen corner or Under a weeping moon. They also focused a lot more on a psychadelic kind of aspect of their music, using a fair amount of wah and relying on keyboards in some of the older songs, which kinda missed the point for me.

[QUOTE=Jude]Ehh...I think BWP is better than Hearse in terms of overall quality AND consistency.[/QUOTE]

I'd give it the quality but not the consistancy.

My dream setlist would be:

The Moor
Deliverance
Bleak
Demon of the Fall
In My Time of Need
The Grand Conjuration
Black Rose Immortal
The Leper Affinity

Encore: To Bid You Farewell

[QUOTE=Thor]My dream setlist would be:

The Moor
Deliverance
Bleak
Demon of the Fall
In My Time of Need
The Grand Conjuration
Black Rose Immortal
The Leper Affinity

Encore: To Bid You Farewell[/QUOTE]

*drool*

Mine would be something like...

Leper Affinity
Bleak
Drapery Falls
In My Time of Need
Ghost of Perdition
The Baying of the Hounds
When
Windowpane
The Moor
White Cluster

Encore:
Demon of the Fall
To Bid You Farewell

Pretty similar to mine. I kept mine a bit shorter just because all of the songs I picked were very long (especially Black Rose Immortal). I can hardly complain with your list though. It's good that you picked plenty of BWP, but I don't see anything off of Deliverance:(

i remember when they played dallas with the sounds of the uderground. they only gave them time to play 2 songs so lamb of crap can play their full 45 minute set. how on earth do u pick lamb of crap over opeth, i still wonder to this day. i drove 4 hours alone to that show. considering i was alone it seemed wayy longer. but it was still worth it for opeth. in addition gwar was awesome.

That's quite a bummer. Wasn't Opeth even headlining? That's such a crime against music, even though I like Lamb of God.