Nerd.

Comic books are lame. And he looks like hellboy from CKY.

Alan Moore is better than your favorite band.

[QUOTE=Luxor]Comic books are lame. [/QUOTE]

Actually, they rule.

I'm happy that I actually recognised Herr Moore before reading your post.

[QUOTE=Zappa]Actually, they rule.[/QUOTE]

Real books > comic books.

Althought I'm trying to get into some good graphic novels.

[url]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=9852567#post9852567[/url]

Can you guys check out my song?

I need some feedback.

[QUOTE=EightMilesHigh]graphic novels.[/QUOTE]

Don't use that term. A comic book's a comic book's a comic book, no matter how long it is. In fact, many, many of the books called "graphic novels" are really just collected editions of issues of monthly comics. It's just a way to make them sound like they're higher art, which is bu[COLOR=White]ll****[/COLOR]. "Comic book" implies no lower standard than any other artform.

Isn't Alan Moore the guy whose comics are constantly ruined by the movies they're turned into?

[QUOTE=YDload]Isn't Alan Moore the guy whose comics are constantly ruined by the movies they're turned into?[/QUOTE]

Yes.

From Hell, The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, and now V For Vendetta.

It's sad.

Man I loved that one copy of The League of Extraordnary Gentlemen I borrowed from the library.

[QUOTE=rbv]Man I loved that one copy of The League of Extraordnary Gentlemen I borrowed from the library.[/QUOTE]

I haven't read any of the League stuff yet, but it seems inevitable. Right now I really want to fill in the earlier Alan Moore gaps, though. I still have yet to read [I]Miracleman[/I], any of his [I]Swamp Thing[/I] stuff and [I]The Killing Joke[/I] one-shot. Basically, all I've read is [I]Watchmen [/I]and I'm in the middle of [I]V For Vendetta[/I] right now.

[QUOTE=Zappa]Yes.

From Hell, The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, and now V For Vendetta.

It's sad.[/QUOTE]

The main problem with those adaptations is that they try to make a two hour film out of about twenty hours of immensely dense storyline from Moore. Considering the differences in media, I don't think those films (the first two anyway, since I naturally haven't seen the third yet) were too bad.

I've actually got hope for the adaptation of Watchmen (if it ever gets made), both because Watchmen is one of the best stories I've ever read, and because Terry Gilliam is wanting to direct it (not to mention that he has been wanting to for years already).

How come Alan Moore got three bad movies from his comics, but the only Frank Miller one that's been done has been an awesome movie?

Maybe Sin City lends itself much more easily to a film adaptation. The stories are, by and large, shorter and though they often intertwine with each other, and can get quite complex in themselves, can be better "unraveled" into film-length, stand-alone stories, I think. That, and a fair bit of luck in getting the right director, a quite ridiculous cast, etc.

But it still wasn't that easy to make Sin City, especially since they ended up making a movie that was completely different from anything that had ever been made in the history of film.

I don't think that's the same thing. The difficulties/innovations/etc in making the film itself don't really say anything about the book it was adapted from.

Also, looking at Sin City you can see (or imagine you see) that it was made by someone who really liked the original material. Maybe Sin City was made with the right mindset, where whoever made LXG/From Hell was trying to make it whilst keeping in mind the idea of what a film 'should' be like, rather than just out of a desire to adapt something they loved. It probably helped to have Frank Miller on as assistant director(?) in that department.

[QUOTE=YDload]But it still wasn't that easy to make Sin City, especially since they ended up making a movie that was completely different from anything that had ever been made in the history of film.[/QUOTE]
Well not really, I mean Space Jam used the techinque that Sin City uses.

I might get to go see Depeche Mode :-D

[QUOTE=EightMilesHigh]I might get to go see Depeche Mode :-D[/QUOTE]
:-D Their new single is pretty good.

[QUOTE=Zappa]Don't use that term. A comic book's a comic book's a comic book, no matter how long it is. In fact, many, many of the books called "graphic novels" are really just collected editions of issues of monthly comics. It's just a way to make them sound like they're higher art, which is bu[COLOR=White]ll****[/COLOR]. "Comic book" implies no lower standard than any other artform.[/QUOTE]

Meh. I disagree. I don't think of the phrase "graphic novels" as a buzz word so much, although it is used as one. I mean, a manga is a comic book in every sense but if you just call it a comic book, you're ignoring the fact that there are distinct differences in content and presentation.

To kinda of give it in another context, people usually call musical genres fads until they are capable of producing full-fledged albums, cohesive wholes, artistic statements blah blah blah. A lot of people (not myself) only want to take comic books seriously when they are delivered in the same manner. It's bull**** to a degree, yeah, but "graphic novels" offer a way for a comic book artist to provide a story that works beyond single issues and generally, it will not work in any other form. You've got comic books, and then you've got a bunch of forms of the comic: webcomics, strips, graphic novels, and all of them offer different ways for an artist to express themselves, which validates the action of making up these silly little terms.

So um yeah. Uh. How 'bout that, uh, local sport team?

[url]http://www.theonion.com/content/node/29611[/url]

This is most of the people in The Pit.

[QUOTE]"Today, nonconformity is everywhere[/QUOTE]

I find that hilarious.

But they're just conforming to another trend so that doesn't make them non-conformity.

[QUOTE=rbv]But they're just conforming to another trend so that doesn't make them non-conformity.[/QUOTE]

Hooray you got the joke!!! :D :D :D :D

sarcasm?

[QUOTE=rbv]But they're just conforming to another trend so that doesn't make them non-conformity.[/QUOTE]
For such a serious accredited news source I'm surprised their writers aren't a little more aware of their error.

[QUOTE=Robert Crumb]Meh. I disagree. I don't think of the phrase "graphic novels" as a buzz word so much, although it is used as one. I mean, a manga is a comic book in every sense but if you just call it a comic book, you're ignoring the fact that there are distinct differences in content and presentation.

To kinda of give it in another context, people usually call musical genres fads until they are capable of producing full-fledged albums, cohesive wholes, artistic statements blah blah blah. A lot of people (not myself) only want to take comic books seriously when they are delivered in the same manner. It's bull**** to a degree, yeah, but "graphic novels" offer a way for a comic book artist to provide a story that works beyond single issues and generally, it will not work in any other form. You've got comic books, and then you've got a bunch of forms of the comic: webcomics, strips, graphic novels, and all of them offer different ways for an artist to express themselves, which validates the action of making up these silly little terms.

So um yeah. Uh. How 'bout that, uh, local sport team?[/QUOTE]

I see where you're coming from, but the term has just always bothered me, and always will.

...
67. Mark Osegueda (Death Angel)
68. Lord Worm (Cryptopsy)
69. Steven Wilson (Porcupine Tree)
70. Mikael Akerfeldt (Opeth)
71. Rod Argent (The Zombies)
72. Burton Bell (Fear Factory)
73. Warrel Dane (Nevermore)
74. Billy Gibbons (ZZ Top)
75. Conrad Keely (And You Will Know Us By the Trail of Dead)
76. Beck Hansen (solo)
77. Zach De La Rocha (Rage Against the Machine)
78. Axl Rose (Guns N Roses)
79. Wayne Coyne (The Flaming Lips)
80. Tunde Adebimpe (TV On The Radio)
81. Ann Wilson (Heart)
...

Gonna start up a new poll for the R&M kids. This is going to get interesting/frustrating in an instant.

wtf is a BIN file?

[QUOTE=YDload][url]http://www.theonion.com/content/node/29611[/url]

This is most of the people in The Pit.[/QUOTE]

Hehehe.


I did a walk for cancer treatment this evening through Stanley Park. I feel good about myself.

My grandpa's funeral is on Thursday and I have a really bad cold. That's about all that's going on in my life now.

Oh, Zappa (and anyone else) I saw James Morrison on Friday. He was brilliant.

[QUOTE=Robert Crumb]It's bull**** to a degree, yeah, but "graphic novels" offer a way for a comic book artist to provide a story that works beyond single issues..[/QUOTE]

A story can just as easily be done in serial form though, from issue to issue. Like Zappa said, many of those that are called graphic novels are really just collected editions of former serials.

So my girlfriend told me last night that she wants to get into some new music (finally!). I asked her what she wants in general, and she said songs that are inspirational and not too slow.

Hmm...so far I've got Jeff Buckley - Eternal Life.

I took the bus ride home from downtown for the first time yesterday yippee. I'm making progress.

[QUOTE=Slug]So my girlfriend told me last night that she wants to get into some new music (finally!). I asked her what she wants in general, and she said songs that are inspirational and not too slow.

Hmm...so far I've got Jeff Buckley - Eternal Life.[/QUOTE]
Elbow - Switching Off
Decemberists, The - Engine Driver

S'up A&I'ers?

[QUOTE=Happymeal]I took the bus ride home from downtown for the first time yesterday yippee. I'm making progress.[/QUOTE]

Public transportation, bahaha.

[QUOTE=Spat Out Plath]Are you living in a new city?[/QUOTE]

Moved in last year. If I get in the uni I'd like to go to next year it's a 30-40 minute bus ride and a 10 minute subway/walk.

[QUOTE=no peros calentes]Public transportation, bahaha.[/QUOTE]

I see a lot of uhh.. fine women?

[QUOTE=Happymeal]
I see a lot of uhh.. fine women?[/QUOTE]

Bahah. Ah there's nothing like having your own wheels.

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