[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]I know this is freaking old, but I might as well enlighten you all, since it went unanswered:

I'm not liking the term "rip" here. It's more of showing a sign of respect for Pink Floyd on Tool's part. The riff is from Part I of Shine on You Crazy Diamond, by Pink Floyd. I will be uploading the similair segments in a few minutes via YSI.

And hey you guy from Toolnavy- You weren't a bad poster when you first joined. Then you started spamming, and such. It'd be nice to have another worth while Tool fan around here, so you wanna clean up your act, and post with a wee bit more brain power? :p

[B]Shine on You Crazy Diamond clip(copy paste link into your browser)[/B]

s6.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1WZXHG1A7LSTB0LMUJT6Q26X1N

[B]The Grudge clip[/B]

s6.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1Q7NSB2PIUXHK39P3JCQZMZMUN[/QUOTE]

Wow, I never noticed the similarities until now. It's the same few notes. I'd hardly call that a ripoff, it might not have even been intentional. Pretty cool find too. I always found a similarity between The Grudge and Yyz actually. The part where it's just the percussion doing the main ryhthm of the song seems similar to me to the beginning of Yyz. You know what I'm saying?

[QUOTE=Maynard James Keenan]No.

Your avatar looks like a douchebag who recently graduated from my school.[/QUOTE]
mynard what r you doing in musicianforums

[QUOTE=cigaro88]mynard what r you doing in musicianforums[/QUOTE]
He got bored with recording the new album ofcourse. This is his time pass. :thumb:

:rolleyes:

the two tracks placed ontop of one another do not create dissonance. there are a few spots where the tempo "creates" the dissonance but thats it.

[QUOTE=satchforever]Wow, I never noticed the similarities until now. It's the same few notes. I'd hardly call that a ripoff, it might not have even been intentional. Pretty cool find too. I always found a similarity between The Grudge and Yyz actually. The part where it's just the percussion doing the main ryhthm of the song seems similar to me to the beginning of Yyz. You know what I'm saying?[/QUOTE]

It's definitely on purpose. I mean, what are the chances that Tool, who have cited Pink Floyd as a huge influence, and SYOCD is proclaimed as one of their best songs. It'd be a crazy coincidence.

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You know the glass shattering noice in YYZ? Listen to Hooker, and you'll hear it in there. :cool: Tool has also said they're big Rush fans.

[QUOTE]Listen to Hooker[/QUOTE]

first time thats ever happend :rolleyes: :p

i never heard the rush thing in "hooker" but i will listen now.

I'll listen for it next time in "Hooker..."

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]It's definitely on purpose. I mean, what are the chances that Tool, who have cited Pink Floyd as a huge influence, and SYOCD is proclaimed as one of their best songs. It'd be a crazy coincidence.

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You know the glass shattering noice in YYZ? Listen to Hooker, and you'll hear it in there. :cool: Tool has also said they're big Rush fans.[/QUOTE]

Yeah on Danny's favourite album's of all time was one of rushes albums might I add I found it in dissectional :cool:

[size=4][url=hxxp://s13.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3HBUMSHZO50OK2XP6XCDYQ3LPZ]Tool - Undertow[/url][/size]

[size=1]just change the hxxp to yada yada yada[/size]

[QUOTE=kurrptsenate]im a huge fan of undertow, 4 degrees, and prison sex[/QUOTE]

PRISON SEX KICKS ***!!!!!!!!!!

For some reason I don't like 4 Degrees... does nothing for me. Undertows best are the first 4 and Flood. The rest isn't the best they've done, but still decent.

Four Degrees is awesome. The high point on Undertow happens during that song.

"Let meeeeeeeeeeeeee [size=1]in[/size]"

Maynard's vocals on Undertow were brilliant. I love the part in Flood, during the silence, when he goes, "I was wrong, this changes everything." Something about that is so great.

[QUOTE=Rothmans]Yeah on Danny's favourite album's of all time was one of rushes albums might I add I found it in dissectional :cool:[/QUOTE]

I always knew he had such great musical taste.

*Is listening to 2112 right now...*

Flood is by far my favourite song on that album its amazing so is crawl away and that doesnt get the repsect it needs, same with undertow aswell though :/

I like the part where hes like "Cleanse and purge me in the water!!".. thats sweet. 4 Degrees is ok, nice to listen to a slower song after the hearing the rest of the cd, but I donno.. it just doesn't appeal to me.

I went through a stage of preffering Undertow for ages then I slapped on Lateralus :cool:

Lateralus is still my favorite. As much as I like Ænima, I think its missing something when compared to Lateralus... (yet everyone else thinks its the other way around..)

Lateralus stands as my favorite record of all time. :D

Same here everyone seems to love AEnima here but it pales in comparsion to Lateralus imo.

Lateralus > Ænima

In my opinion, each Tool release got better. Hopefully the trend will continue with the new one.

Hopefully anyway, all this anticapation is pretty agravating at this point.

To be quite honest I am starting to get turned ott Tool heavily I cant remember the last time I played one of there albums let alone one of there songs. :/

[QUOTE=BlindWriting]In my opinion, each Tool release got better. Hopefully the trend will continue with the new one.[/QUOTE]

Yeah. That'd be nice. I don't expect something greater than Laterlus though. If I get to antsy about it being Lateralus 2.0 than when I listen to it first I'll think it's garbage, because like Lateralus it took some time to sink in.

[QUOTE=BlindWriting]In my opinion, each Tool release got better. Hopefully the trend will continue with the new one.[/QUOTE]


My thoughts exactly.

The first time I listened to Lateralus, it just clicked. I knew I loved them after The Grudge. I think the cds got better to.

[quote]Undertow (LP-1993)
Necrosaurus(LP-1995)
Ænima (LP-1996)[/quote]

Can anyone explain whats the deal with the album 'Necrosaurus'? Is it a fake or does it exist?

i like tool - H.

[QUOTE=repcak]Can anyone explain whats the deal with the album 'Necrosaurus'? Is it a fake or does it exist?[/QUOTE]

Just look at the name. I'd go with either:

1) Fake, a la fake albums in the Ænima booklet.

2) A possible unofficial bootleg, but it even almost sounds too bad for that.

[QUOTE=Rothmans]Hopefully anyway, all this anticapation is pretty agravating at this point.

To be quite honest I am starting to get turned ott Tool heavily I cant remember the last time I played one of there albums let alone one of there songs. :/[/QUOTE]

Me too. Well, actually i'm listening to Undertow now, but this is the first time in ages. I think this will all change when their new album comes out though.

i hoping this new CD is heavy as fuk

[QUOTE=Shadius]Just look at the name. I'd go with either:

1) Fake, a la fake albums in the Ænima booklet.

2) A possible unofficial bootleg, but it even almost sounds too bad for that.
[/QUOTE]


I'd go with 3. Fake as in, just something completely random written on a random message bord, by someone we don't know (apparently, since MJK doesn't remember writing it)... I hate how rumours get started so easily

[QUOTE=kurrptsenate]i hoping this new CD is heavy as fuk[/QUOTE]
I hope it's not.

[QUOTE=Kage]I hope it's not.[/QUOTE]

I hope it has it's heavy moments, but I just want an excellent CD, and the whole thing being really really heavy wouldn't be an excellent CD for me.

[QUOTE=Shadius]I hope it has it's heavy moments, but I just want an excellent CD, and the whole thing being really really heavy wouldn't be an excellent CD for me.[/QUOTE]
That's what I was going for, but you articulated it better. :p

Actually, I wouldn't mind if it wasn't heavy at all. But it will be, because it's Tool.

[QUOTE=Kage]That's what I was going for, but you articulated it better. :p

Actually, I wouldn't mind if it wasn't heavy at all. But it will be, because it's Tool.[/QUOTE]


blasphemy :lol:

Ha. i stand Corrected. There was a Necrosaurus. I didn't say it was real, but I did say MJK posted it in his write-up.

/proud

i expect a more calmer cd, like Aenima. Lateralus was (imo) heavier than Aenima.

in fact i don't mind. hey, it's tool! if it will be heavy or not, i'm sure it will be a excellent record.

Lateralus has a lot of chilled(ish?) songs, but so did Aenema. But Aenema had more rough edge than Lateralus. Yeah. I do hope the new one has it's heavy moments, but not to heavy...I heard they're inspired by Mashuggah on this album? That could make it too heavy. But, yeah. It's Tool, and they allways seem to impress.

when they really got inspired by meshuggah, the next record can be really interesting!! even if that means that it will be a heavy one...

I hope there's a song on there that's so heavy, my legs fall off

[QUOTE=Knifeboy]I hope there's a song on there that's so heavy, my legs fall off[/QUOTE]


thats what im trying to say. Thank you for doing it first