Yeah, Portnoy has a ton of groove and feel. I don't get the whole OMGHEJUSTPLAYSTECHNICALSTUFFFAST.

Well, groove is a hard thing for some people to grasp.

[QUOTE=Dunkelheit509]I've only heard his work with Death, and it was pretty awesome. He probably would do well with them.[/QUOTE]

Oh, man...that's barely a taste of what he can do. Check out Aghora's self titled album - incredible work there. Cynic - Focus was the classic album that really introduced him to the scene, and his work with Gordian Knot is fantastic.

Yeah, I've heard a few Cynic tracks (thanks to Flynn), and they were pretty decent to.

Hey, I tried this a few months ago and got like 2 responses before I was drowned out in the usual "official thread" mindless banter, but here goes...

I recently got my copy of Lamentations signed by Opeth at Scrape Records in Vancouver. It's super cool, but I can't tell whos signature is whos! Does anyone else have anything signed by Opeth that they can compare this to to help me out? Can anyone identify these scribbles?

[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v640/stefanreindl/c2417ecb.jpg[/IMG]

I'm pretty sure the bottom right is Per Wiberg, but beyond that I'm lost!

Mikaels is the one right next to Pers, thats the only one I can pull from memory. I'll to take a look at my signed stuff closly...

I cant identify any of them. I dont have any signed stuff to analyze it either:(

Is there any Opeth fans from Sydney here?I was just wondering if they are going to be doing any in-store signing at Utopia Records?

[QUOTE=Knifeboy]I've heard all of DT's catalogue, and I'd say that Mike Portnoy wouldn't be able to write anything like the drumparts for Windowpane or PT's The creator has a mastertape....[/QUOTE]

The drum parts to Porcupine Tree never really stood out to me. The guy has good groove, definately, I always feel like he should change the beats up a bit more, add some simple, tasteful fills in more often, to be honest. He's a *very* solid drummer with good groove, but Portnoy... Man, if Flea can drop his happy slapping and popping and create some tasteful interesting basslines than Portnoy can tone down while still keeping things interesting.

You know, I'm not saying there arn't better drummers, but I think Portnoy would be a decent choice. Personally I think Lopez would be better because I love his style, or Danny Carey, but he's more unlikely. I think it would be more interesting to see what Portnoy can do in the situation than PT's drummer...seeing as we know what he can do with Steve anyway.

[QUOTE=Shadius]The drum parts to Porcupine Tree never really stood out to me. The guy has good groove, definately, I always feel like he should change the beats up a bit more, add some simple, tasteful fills in more often, to be honest. He's a *very* solid drummer with good groove, but Portnoy... Man, if Flea can drop his happy slapping and popping and create some tasteful interesting basslines than Portnoy can tone down while still keeping things interesting.[/QUOTE]

As Det mentioned on the previous page.. Gavin Harrisons drumming is far from "toned down" compared to Portnoy's drumming...

I know this has been asked a thousand times. But can you recommend an Opeth album that I should start out on?

Thanks:thumb:

[QUOTE=Laztec]I know this has been asked a thousand times. But can you recommend an Opeth album that I should start out on?

Thanks:thumb:[/QUOTE]
Well, a good way to start would be on Still Life, methinks. It's a very strong impression of what the band is about.

Or Blackwater Park, as it is usually easier to find in stores, and still a good starter album.


Back to the drummer discussion. If Lopez joined in with Mike and Steve, it would probably sound a lot similar to stuff we've already heard (the Opeth albums with Steve on them..) or if PTs drummer joined, it would probably sound like Mikael joins PT. If Portnoy joins... well, it could be something intirely new.

They would be making a mistake to limit it to those 3 drummers though...

Yeah, but it IS Portnoy, people here are just saying they use one of these 2 instead.

[QUOTE=Stoo]They would be making a mistake to limit it to those 3 drummers though...[/QUOTE]
Are they limiting it to those three drummers?

[QUOTE=Dunkelheit509]Yeah, but it IS Portnoy, people here are just saying they use one of these 2 instead.[/QUOTE]
Oh have they selcted him already?

I see...

Will be intresting no matter what drummer.

[QUOTE=PeEpHoLe_10]Is there any Opeth fans from Sydney here?I was just wondering if they are going to be doing any in-store signing at Utopia Records?[/QUOTE]

[url=http://www.utopia.com.au/sections/instores/]Doesn't look like it[/url].

I was hoping that they'd do an in store in Brisbane as well, at Skinny's Music. They did one there last time they were here. Unfortunately, stupid Coheed And Cambria is taking up all the instore spaces, by the looks of things.

[QUOTE=Shadius]The drum parts to Porcupine Tree never really stood out to me.
[/quote] So I take it you've never heard Blackest Eyes, then? Sound of Muzak? Creator Had a Mastertape? Halo? :confused:
[quote]
The guy has good groove, definately,
[/quote] Understatement of the century.
[quote]
I always feel like he should change the beats up a bit more, add some simple, tasteful fills in more often, to be honest. He's a *very* solid drummer with good groove, but Portnoy... Man, if Flea can drop his happy slapping and popping and create some tasteful interesting basslines than Portnoy can tone down while still keeping things interesting.
[/quote] It's not an issue of toning down. Although Mike does overplay from time to time, it's the fact that he plays with such unbelieveable disregard for groove, feel, or finesse that bothers me about him.

[QUOTE=Det_Nosnip]Understatement of the century.[/QUOTE]
I don't think you should blow Lopez out of proportion. He's really good, but not as good as most Opeth fans think of him being.

[QUOTE=Thor]I don't think you should blow Lopez out of proportion. He's really good, but not as good as most Opeth fans think of him being.[/QUOTE]

Actually, I think it's the opposite. Most people don't know how good he really is.

I'm definitely not saying that he's bad or anything, but all I'm saying is that tons of Opeth fans like to say that he's one of the best drummers ever. I don't think he's like to 10 worthy or anything, but he's certainly a solid percussionst.

[QUOTE=Thor]I'm definitely not saying that he's bad or anything, but all I'm saying is that tons of Opeth fans like to say that he's one of the best drummers ever. I don't think he's like to 10 worthy or anything, but he's certainly a solid percussionst.[/QUOTE]I have never heard any Opeth fan, or anyone for that matter say hes the best ever.

Well I was exaggerating there, but I just know that Opeth fans say that he's one of the best drummers in metal.

If you want to talk about the most talent in Opeth, let's stick to talking about Akerfeldt. :thumb: I actually think that he is one of music's best musicians right now.

I'm a huge fan of the guy's in Dream Theater/Liquid Tension Experiment. I just wish Labrie would shut the hell up, you know? I hope that the project does get recorded, and I feel confident that Portnoy will pull of something great. I honestly think everyone here is totally underestimating his abilities. However, I think the most interesting drummer proposed so far (in this thread) is Abe Cunningham from Deftones. THAT would be perfect!

[QUOTE=Thor]Well I was exaggerating there, but I just know that Opeth fans say that he's one of the best drummers in metal.

If you want to talk about the most talent in Opeth, let's stick to talking about Akerfeldt. :thumb: I actually think that he is one of music's best musicians right now.[/QUOTE]

I think Lopez is by far the most technically gifted member of Opeth. The guitar playing in Opeth isn't that impressive, really. Could you clarify what you mean by "musician"?

Well we can all dream, but that would never happen. I bet Portnoy will come in and do a great job, despite what people may think.

[QUOTE=Toaster]I think Lopez is by far the most technically gifted member of Opeth. The guitar playing in Opeth isn't that impressive, really. Could you clarify what you mean by "musician"?[/QUOTE]
Maybe I should have said songwriter instead.

Thats quite a better word. Akerfeldt is amazing.

[QUOTE=Knifeboy]Portnoy isn't versatile though.. He's got no groove and sense of dynamics, Lopez and Gavin Harrison (PT's drummer) is in a completely different league to Portnoy[/QUOTE]


Agreed.

[QUOTE=Thor]I don't think you should blow Lopez out of proportion. He's really good, but not as good as most Opeth fans think of him being.[/QUOTE]

He wasn't talking about Lopez, he was talking about the drummer for Porcupine Tree

I like Lopez's work on My Arms, Your Hearse the most I think. His display of technicality throughout the album is superb.