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Lunch 08-22-2006 08:07 PM

Yea, I guess singing in both the "Boris the Spider" voice and then "you are forgiiiiiven" glass-shattering voice caught up to him over the years.

PostcardsoftheHanging 08-22-2006 08:13 PM

[QUOTE=Lunch] I've always thought they did a good job at this show, but listening through their are some moments where the band gets back to a little bit of the magic from Leeds. Sure it's not the same, but for what it is they have some real great spots on RAH. John is in such fine form the whole way through, it's just great to listen to.[/QUOTE]

Yeah I think that album is underrated because of all of the guest stars and the fact that people see a picture of aged musisians and think they are past their prime. Though I think that all of the band members really shine on that album. I really love the additions to The Kids Are Alright on that album. I like that version better than the original.

Lunch 08-23-2006 11:29 AM

The guest stars do drag the album down, I think. The Who can take care of their own business, especially while John was still alive.

Oh, I wrote another FA. Not that you guys particularly care about the group, but check it out:
[url]http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=488922[/url]

JohnXDoesn't 08-25-2006 03:39 AM

[QUOTE=Street_Fighting_Man]I don't think it was a peak time for the band, but it definitely wasn't a bad time live like some people think. I think the biggest difference is the chemistry between the instrumentalists. I mean, Kenny Jones is good, but just look at how Moon, Entwistle, and Townshend gelled together, especially during improvised instrumentals. I don't think anybody could recreate that kind of thing that they had around '69-'70, but they were always great live.[/QUOTE]
yes, Moon, Entwistle and Townshend certainly defined the power trio. but little was lost onstage IMO with Jones behind the kit in the '79-81 years. the Who had already turned a corner so far as performance is concerned from the early years and the Tommy/Leeds era. Thier performances from Whos Next on were somewhat different and from Quadrophenia on they gave more conventional performances. IMHO the '79-81 live Who were a peak performing band. peak of the '70's. with or without Moon. They were simply right on and dead solid. and Roger was perhaps at his best ever.

[QUOTE=Seafroggys]I've enver liked Jones style of drumming. he had this big *** drumset, but never used it. I saw him do a two bar fill that was just 16th notes on the snare, no accents or nothing, just straight 16th notes on the snare for two bars. I thought that was really lame.[/QUOTE]
Jones used all of his kit. just not like Moon. certainly he was a much more straight up and straight forward drummer. but he got the job done well. could of been looser, but meh....
[QUOTE=fwqhgads]Alright, just sent it out again. All should be well now.

: D[/QUOTE]
great. got it of course.
[QUOTE=Lunch]Right now I'm listening the the Royal Albert Hall show on my new laptop speakers (even though they were cheap, I got ones with a sub just for Entwistle). I've always thought they did a good job at this show, but listening through their are some moments where the band gets back to a little bit of the magic from Leeds. Sure it's not the same, but for what it is they have some real great spots on RAH. John is in such fine form the whole way through, it's just great to listen to.[/QUOTE]
yeah, RAH is great. that is the Who. John, Roger, Pete, Bundrick, Starkey. good group. the additional four songs they added after Johns death (I Don't Even Know Myself, Young Man Blues, etc) is fantastic.
[QUOTE=Seafroggys]speaking on John, does anybody notice how his singing really went downhill? I always thought he was a great singer (better then Pete, IMO) with a great range. But I'm listening to this '79 concert, and I notice some strain (some, but its still there). Flash forward to their late 90s/early 00s Who and solo Entwistle, and he's lost ALOT, far far more then Pete or Roger. In fact, he just stopped singing harmonies period, only singing for My Wife (which he really sounds strained).[/QUOTE]
yeah. Entwistle's voice was pretty much shot by the return of the Who at the turn of the decade. my guess is too many cigarettes, too much booze, and a bit much coke.

Seafroggys 08-25-2006 12:16 PM

i've just realized there's the song "I've Had Enough" and "Had Enough"....totally crazy!

Ephemeral 08-25-2006 01:37 PM

Indeed.

I'm still really excited to see them.

: D

JohnXDoesn't 08-25-2006 06:23 PM

I'm listening to this Chicago bootleg right now. Just got the third part downloaded and that's what I was waiting for, as I wanted to hear it beginning to end. Remarkable. Really. I like this [i]a lot[/i]. Got the sound adjustments optimized. Very nice.

Thanks once again, Jeff....

Ephemeral 08-25-2006 06:34 PM

Yeah, it's not the best sounding bootleg in the world, but it is a very good show.

And you're welcome.

StrawberryFieldsForever 08-25-2006 09:17 PM

I'm goin to see the mother****in who October 3rd bitches!!!

Too bad two of 'em are dead...

But still...I'll be able to carry around a ticket stub taht shows that I saw one of Rock and Roll's legends.

JohnXDoesn't 08-25-2006 10:21 PM

^yes. and they are great still. enjoy it. don't worry about missing John. have a great time and check back in to tell us how it was....


EDIT: that didn't last long, Jeff :(

Street_Fighting_Man 08-25-2006 10:28 PM

Has anybody here heard the Amsterdam 1969 bootleg? It's an amazing show, with one of the earliest, if not the earliest, performance of Tommy live. There's a lot of energy in the show. Great quality, too.

fwqhgads ² 08-25-2006 10:32 PM

refl

I'll survive. It's only a day this time.

: D

JohnXDoesn't 08-25-2006 10:34 PM

[QUOTE=Street_Fighting_Man]Has anybody here heard the Amsterdam 1969 bootleg? It's an amazing show, with one of the earliest, if not the earliest, performance of Tommy live. There's a lot of energy in the show. Great quality, too.[/QUOTE]
haven't heard it, though i think i have seen it floating around torrent sites.
[QUOTE=fwqhgads ²]refl

I'll survive. It's only a day this time.

: D[/QUOTE]
oic. good news. "The Man" is a son of a bitch lol

fwqhgads ² 08-25-2006 10:35 PM

I only made a post about bruce wilkins

=(

JohnXDoesn't 08-25-2006 10:40 PM

:bruce: in da Who thread :eek:

fwqhgads ² 08-25-2006 10:41 PM

:clint:

JohnXDoesn't 08-25-2006 10:42 PM

:devito: rocks to the Who. true story.....

/avoids ban by staying on topic :)

fwqhgads ² 08-25-2006 10:44 PM

they can't get us in our stronghold...

>_>

JohnXDoesn't 08-25-2006 10:56 PM

[SIZE="7"]10,000TH POST![/SIZE]

:smoke: :chug: :smoke: :chug:

[SIZE="5"]Thank you to The Who Thread. My home on MX. To Lunch, a thousand thank you's for keeping me coming back with this great thread. Robo, Seafroggys, Pink Freud, Jeff, Dragon Prince, PigontheWing, Zabbit82, Wanderer, and all the rest of you Who fanatics that make this thread a pleasure to visit and post in. Much goodness to all of you. Lunch, good luck in college and thanks for hanging in there with this thread. Everyone is so great here. I am truly grateful on the internets. [/SIZE]

[SIZE="7"]Useless Rep For Everyone lolz[/SIZE]

Great time, guys. Thanks once again for being great posters and e friends. And most of all, great Who fans. LONG LIVE ROCK!

fwqhgads ² 08-25-2006 10:58 PM

yay

Seafroggys 08-26-2006 12:20 AM

yay! great excitement.

I'd love to get hold of Tommy bootlegs. Damn Pete and his burning!

Dragon_Prince 08-26-2006 03:59 AM

Out here in the threads
JXD posts for his needs

pam pam pam

GO you ;) :P

fwqhgads ² 08-26-2006 03:09 PM

so..

zabbit82 08-26-2006 08:07 PM

Long live rock indeed. I havent been here in weeks and the first thing I see is a congrats message about the 10000th post in here.

Sweet dudes. Sweet.

Ephemeral 08-26-2006 10:22 PM

unbanned yay

JohnXDoesn't 08-27-2006 05:43 AM

^lol

hey everyone. thought this would interest many of us. i for one will be picking it up. sounds really nice.

*wipes tear*

[url]http://www.petetownshend.co.uk/diary/display.cfm?id=376&zone=pr[/url]

check out the Amazon link for much more details and a couple of consumer opinions.


RIP, John. you dumb coke sniffing jerk...


/still mad at him :smash:

Lunch 08-27-2006 11:29 AM

Yea I'll get that when I have the chance/money also, thanks for letting us know about that.

I can't say enough good things about Entwistle, honestly. I don't know how anyone could be considered a better rock bassist.

BludgeonySteve 08-27-2006 01:38 PM

I never really pay attention to him. Or the drumming for that matter. Am I weird?

Lunch 08-27-2006 01:46 PM

Yea, it makes me wonder why you listen to the Who.

Ephemeral 08-27-2006 02:26 PM

:' (

poor John.

BludgeonySteve 08-28-2006 12:06 AM

[QUOTE=Lunch]Yea, it makes me wonder why you listen to the Who.[/QUOTE]

Good music, I guess. Bass and drums don't make it good although they are good.

I'm The Face 08-28-2006 12:16 AM

*sniff* John.... too bad your greatest song is on a Who compilation most have never heard of.

I'm talking about "When I Was A Boy" on Who's Missing btw ;)

fwqhgads ² 08-29-2006 06:36 PM

Welcome to the forums, and more specifically, the Who thread. :cool:

Sunny Afternoon 08-29-2006 09:18 PM

[QUOTE=RNR]Good music, I guess. Bass and drums don't make it good although they are good.[/QUOTE]


Live at Leeds
Wall of sound
Moon fills on Heaven and Hell
Nuff said.

Lunch 08-29-2006 09:24 PM

Entwistle and Moon are a wall through that whole album.

Seafroggys 08-30-2006 12:22 AM

[QUOTE=I'm The Face]*sniff* John.... too bad your greatest song is on a Who compilation most have never heard of.

I'm talking about "When I Was A Boy" on Who's Missing btw ;)[/QUOTE]

hmmm, I think John's greatest song is also one that very few people have heard of (unless they have Live at Leeds), which is Heaven and Hell.

I think John is my favorite member, actually. I'm a drummer, and Keith Moon is my favorite drummer, so you would think using basic logic that he would be my favoirte of the Who. Not true. I like John more :D

I'm The Face 08-30-2006 08:41 AM

[QUOTE=Seafroggys]hmmm, I think John's greatest song is also one that very few people have heard of (unless they have Live at Leeds), which is Heaven and Hell.

I think John is my favorite member, actually. I'm a drummer, and Keith Moon is my favorite drummer, so you would think using basic logic that he would be my favoirte of the Who. Not true. I like John more :D[/QUOTE]

HaH is also available on Who's Missing as a studio version, as well as Live at the Isle of Wight. Of course, the Live At Leeds version stomps all over the other two in terms of production, sound, and energy. I absolutely love the 15 seconds or so of crowd, silence, the band setting up, and then suddenly ripping into HaH. The intro to Isle of Wight is just as cool... "a nice rock n' roll band, from Shephard's Bush London, The 'Oo!"... bam, Heaven and Hell. :thumb: Too bad the production of that album sucks arse - I rarely listen to it :(

rockinbass17 08-30-2006 11:17 AM

I don't know why "Heaven and Hell" was never put on a studio album. It's definatly among the top three tracks on LaL. My favorite part is when Roger begins his singing during the jam in the middle.

robo2448 08-30-2006 11:29 AM

Maybe they just thought they could never replicate the live power of it in the studio. And they wouldn't have been able to.

JohnXDoesn't 08-30-2006 04:37 PM

If you guys really want to hear some good John stuff played with his own band (he plays his Who stuff, too) get Rhapsody Music Player. It's free for 14 Days so if you don't want to pay just cancel. But to give John a listen they have:

Who's The Bass Player?: The Ox Anthology
King Bisquit Flower Hour Archive Series: John Entwistle Greatest Hits Live
John Entwistle: Left For Live Deluxe

The latter two are stream only, so you can't even buy those anymore. All are fantastic recordings.


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