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Chu 06-15-2005 11:12 PM

[QUOTE=Mizar]This Dying Soul, The Root of All Evil.....[/QUOTE]
I haven't heard Octavarium yet, so I'm not too sure :p
I might go pick it up today actually.

Edit: I haven't heard Awake either.. But based off what I have heard (Images & Words, Scenes, SDOIT, ToT and ACOS) my favourite is SDOIT for The Glass Prison, and of course Disc 2, but Images & Words is definately one of their best, even if it's not so heavy, I still think it's an amazing album.

Edit2: Yeah I bought Octavarium, meh there's one or two tracks I don't mind, but the majority is a bit iffy, I've only given it a brief listen through once though, so my opinion will change. But seriously there's one song where I decided Labrie should leave the band, he does them no justice (But my faith in James was restored - Towards the end of title track, when he's sort of yelling I guess. I like it).

red barchetta 06-16-2005 05:26 AM

i just got octavarium and an evening with john petrucci/jordan ruddess from amazon today. they are both amazing.

octavarium really is a fantastic track

MAthiAS 06-16-2005 04:04 PM

I'm starting to think that the AA songs are just an excuse that one song per album, they don't have to write any new riffs.

Mizar 06-16-2005 09:04 PM

[QUOTE=iceman3019]i'd say images and words is better than awake. images and words had a ton of progressive elements in it, while awake just kicked [I]a[/I]ss and was heavy . . .[/QUOTE]

Awake had a lot of balance on it which I enjoy and what puts it up over I&W slightly. It's weird because at first I listened to Awake and then hated it and threw it to the corner. A month or so later I picked it back up again and loved it.Octavarium had a simliar effect on me, it was alright when I listened to it the first time, and every other listen it got a lot better as I found something else great about it. There are a lot of great hidden "nuggets" in the album, and there is a great discussion on it at the Portnoy forums that I've been following.
For anybody who didn't like 8vm on their first listen, don't just throw it away as garbage, listen to it a few more times to get a full opinion on it. When it clicks with you, it becomes a great album.

RiceMonster 06-16-2005 09:18 PM

I finally got Octavarium yesterday. I'm very impressed with it. it's a lot better then I thought it would be.

Chu 06-17-2005 12:07 AM

Someone review Awake just here for me? :)
It's one of the only Dream Theater albums I don't have, so wondering if I should get it? :)

jpshortstuff 06-17-2005 01:14 AM

[QUOTE=Chu]Someone review Awake just here for me? :)
It's one of the only Dream Theater albums I don't have, so wondering if I should get it? :)[/QUOTE]

[url]http://www.sputnikmusic.com/album.php?albumid=1500[/url]

TheBlackAcidChildren 06-17-2005 04:40 AM

[QUOTE=EddieVanHalen769]I finally got Octavarium yesterday. I'm very impressed with it. it's a lot better then I thought it would be.[/QUOTE]
123. At first I was a little sceptical because they put half of This Dying Soul into The Root Of All Evil, so I thought it was just going to be a re-hash of Train Of Thought (like Train Of Thought was of Six Degrees) but I was very pleased with having bought it. It's a great album.

nowitzki 06-17-2005 07:22 AM

Here's probably the explanation for the Muse influences coming through in Octavarium (From MikePortnoy.com):

[QUOTE]Favorite CD's of 2004:

1. Muse - Absolution (technically this is a 2003 release - but it is hands down my favorite CD of the year and probably the decade as well!)
[/QUOTE]

Gusfmm 06-17-2005 11:32 AM

[QUOTE=Chu]Someone review Awake just here for me? :)
It's one of the only Dream Theater albums I don't have, so wondering if I should get it? :)[/QUOTE]
To me, the real ground-breaking music that DT was able to create and delight the world with (actually making progressive music sort of revive) was realized in two recordings: Images & Words, and Awake. Both kick *** big time over anything else. Bottom line. No nu-metal or techno-chuncky type of crappy influences. That was the REAL THING.

So if you don't have Awake, you are missing half of that. IT IS A MUST for anybody into real quality and progressive music. I wish Moore had never left... things have never been the same.......

MAthiAS 06-17-2005 12:01 PM

[QUOTE=Chu]Someone review Awake just here for me? :)
It's one of the only Dream Theater albums I don't have, so wondering if I should get it? :)[/QUOTE]
Get it, you won't be disappointed. Its their best work along with Images...

YouGottaBeCrazy 06-17-2005 07:11 PM

This is a bit of a different question, but: what is everyone's least favorite song on Awake? Give a reason too. Actually, if you want, you can do any album, but I'm just curious about Awake right now. I would say my least favorites are Innocent Faded just because I think it has a really lame chorus and even though there are a couple cool parts in there, it's just not that great. I'm also not a big fan of Erotomania. Most DT fans seem to love it, but it just doesn't appeal to me I guess. It's too bland maybe. I pretty much love the rest of the album though. It's **** good.

MAthiAS 06-17-2005 10:43 PM

I'd say Voices or Erotomania, I just find them to drag. The other songs are all perfect though IMO.

Lord Abortion 06-18-2005 05:49 AM

[QUOTE=Distorted Vision]Mike has said that there will be a Manchester date, to be announced soon.[/QUOTE]
Oh thank god, slightly closer but still a distance for me to go

NP - in the name of god

need to bloody get octavarium!

clearvision 06-18-2005 05:54 AM

I hate caught in a web, it just grates on me.

Silent Death 06-18-2005 07:10 AM

Ok, I have never really listend to Dream Theater much, I have only heard a few songs off the new album and I didn't really like it. Is all their stuff like that or is their older stuff different?

MAthiAS 06-18-2005 08:23 AM

[quote]Ok, I have never really listend to Dream Theater much, I have only heard a few songs off the new album and I didn't really like it. Is all their stuff like that or is their older stuff different?[/quote]
Images and Words is very different, its much more progressive. After that, its often in the same style, but just better.
[quote]I hate caught in a web, it just grates on me.[/quote]
Not really a fan of the chorus, but other than that I love that song.

Lord Abortion 06-18-2005 08:56 AM

images and words owns all IMO

Biancazzurri 06-18-2005 10:24 AM

Awake owns all

juggalotricksta 06-18-2005 11:27 AM

NEED ADVICE:


I ordered Suspended Animation on 05/18. Its now 06/18 and my order status still says "pending." Does this mean my order has been lost in translation? If so, how should I take care of that? I have already emailed Sound Mind Music and the DT website a number of times, but no response. There is no phone number, so I cant call. I'm wondering if I should just keep waiting, or if there is a way to cancel and reorder, could someone tell me how?

Anyone that owns Suspended Animation, your help would be much appreciated. I'm desperate here.

juggalotricksta 06-18-2005 01:17 PM

That would truly suck. You wouldnt happen to know how long something like that would normally take do you?

Jack Daniels 06-18-2005 01:30 PM

[QUOTE=satchforever]I'm also not a big fan of Erotomania. Most DT fans seem to love it, but it just doesn't appeal to me I guess. [/QUOTE]

Erotmania got me into dream theater, it is my all time favorit dream theater song. How can you not love that song? It has some of Petruccis greatest work ever by far IMO.

trev913 06-18-2005 01:37 PM

I Think Panic Attack is my favorite song on Octavarium.

And Erotomania (specifically the LSFNY version) is my favorite DT song of all-time, as well.

horseypie 06-19-2005 03:27 AM

does anyone else think that flight of the bumblebee by JP sucks?

Jimi Haze 06-19-2005 06:44 AM

[QUOTE=Lord Abortion]images and words owns all IMO[/QUOTE]
1234

Any of you DT fans from England and have booked tickets for the gig in the Hammersmith Apollo on Oct 24th... I can't seem to work out what the heck is going on with it, are all the tickets seated?

Triangle 06-19-2005 07:12 AM

[QUOTE=lnkybus]1234

Any of you DT fans from England and have booked tickets for the gig in the Hammersmith Apollo on Oct 24th... I can't seem to work out what the heck is going on with it, are all the tickets seated?[/QUOTE]
Yes they are all seated. Me and a few mates are going. I can't wait. :cool:

YouGottaBeCrazy 06-19-2005 07:16 AM

[QUOTE=Jack Daniels]Erotmania got me into dream theater, it is my all time favorit dream theater song. How can you not love that song? It has some of Petruccis greatest work ever by far IMO.[/QUOTE]

Because it just isn't catchy to my ears I guess. There is some great guitar playing in that song in terms of speed, but his greatest work? The best guitar work on that album is the 2nd solo to Lie (starts off with the wah, playing slow, and than it picks up). I'm not saying I dont like Erotomania, because I do, but I still dont think it's that great. Who knows, maybe I'll change my mind next time I listen to the album.

red barchetta 06-19-2005 07:19 AM

i may have to go to hammersmith gig on my own, because none of my friends are interested in DT :(

the2stranger 06-19-2005 07:36 AM

I'm going to the gig in the heiniken music hall in the Netherlands :)

I wonder if it's a seated concert as weel, since I've never been to that music hall before.
but I don't want to be standing up for 4 hours, so a seat would be pleasant

Steve M. 06-19-2005 10:35 AM

25th > 24th ;)

Classic Albumplayed in full!! WOooo! Can't wait

red barchetta 06-19-2005 02:13 PM

i hope it's images and words. their performence of 'learning to live' on 'scenes from new york' was great, and it should make a great closer to the night

cliff solos for all 06-19-2005 02:21 PM

what album should i get

BludgeonySteve 06-19-2005 05:41 PM

I just got Octavarium!


It's very good in my opinion. It's no Awake, Images and Words, or Scenes from a Memory. But it was a great listen.

MAthiAS 06-19-2005 05:51 PM

I liked 8vm better than SFAM...

YouGottaBeCrazy 06-19-2005 06:29 PM

heh, I just heard SFAM for the first time today. I liked it. Gotta listen to it a bunch more times before I form any type of opinion on it. The only thing that really stuck out to me as kinda weak was this almost R&B sounding pop song in there. It's like number 7 or 8. I thought it was quite horrendous. Maybe it just needs another listen.

BludgeonySteve 06-20-2005 05:47 PM

If you're talking about Through Her Eyes, that's one of my favorites on the album :mad:

nowitzki 06-20-2005 06:41 PM

I have to say Through Her Eyes is my least favourite song on the album by some distance, but the whole album flows so perfectly you can't really skip it.

juggalotricksta 06-20-2005 06:51 PM

[QUOTE=MAthiAS]I liked 8vm better than SFAM...[/QUOTE]


Are you joking? I think DT will have a pretty rough time topping the musical juggernaut that is SFAM. That album has everything.

MAthiAS 06-20-2005 07:05 PM

[quote]Are you joking? I think DT will have a pretty rough time topping the musical juggernaut that is Awake. That album has everything.[/quote]
Fixed.

The JoZ 06-20-2005 07:06 PM

[QUOTE=MAthiAS]I liked 8vm better than SFAM...[/QUOTE]

I did too.

SFAM is too many ballady light songs. 8vm mixes heavy, light, and epic.

Anyone else here think 8vm is/could be their best? I sure do.


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