The only song I have from that album is Babylon Fell. Sounds like Black Metal to me.

Whatever Celtic Frost is, they're amazing.

This thread went from informative to bitch fight pretty quick.

[QUOTE=kornedbeef]Whatever Celtic Frost is, they're amazing.[/QUOTE]

I'm still getting used to Tom Warrior's vocals, but you have to give him credit, he is a talented songwriter. And he's also the only guitarrist I've ever heard that could play a solo that genuinely sounded as if it was made from chaos.

yep, celtic frost are wonderful, though i feel warriors vocals is not very good, he doesn't growl or sing just talk agressively sort of=)

best vocal work ever is on darkthrones album panzerfaust imo or deathcrush(mayhem)

I don't like mayhem too much. They don't compare at all with Celtic Frost.

Plus I just started listening to Opeth. They kick ***.

maybe someone can help me in here im looking for this band I heard with some insane guitar, sorta a Children of bodom kinda sound but with singing and the name sounded to me like yingling mobscene or something but that came up with nothing.

Yngwie Malmsteen by any chance? Insane speed and scales, neo-classical etc.

[QUOTE=evilmenhavenosongs]Yngwie Malmsteen by any chance? Insane speed and scales, neo-classical etc.[/QUOTE]

yeah thats it thanks

Hi, Two questions.
1. What is Impaled Nazerane considered? (Listen to them at [url]www.impnaz.com[/url] )
2. Are you from Minnesota?

[QUOTE=Ve Das]hardcore is punk attitude with fast,simple guitars.

FASTER guitars.[/QUOTE]

Ive heard people call emo bands like Atreyu hardcore and emo-core, and they're sure as hell not punk.

And if it was metal, but punky, wouldn't it be Thrash (or close to it).

And another, little thing. What about speed metal and power metal? Cuz' if power metal is an actual genre, wouln't it be bands like Iron Maiden and JP?

[QUOTE=Deciever]And another, little thing. What about speed metal and power metal? Cuz' if power metal is an actual genre, wouln't it be bands like Iron Maiden and JP?[/QUOTE]

Speed metal is just another name for Thrash. Power metal is a real genre, and Iron Maiden and Judas Priest are [i]not[/i] part of it.

Here was the definition I submitted like 10 pages back:

[quote][u]Power Metal[/u]

Power Metal was largely inspired by the works of Iron Maiden and Ronnie James Dio. Helloween is often given credit for defining the genre as we know it today. Power metal is often scorned and laughed at by outsiders due to the over-the-top lyrics and high fantasy imagery. The music itself is typically defined by a driving rhythm section, usually featuring a lot of double bass drumming, and a tight sense of melody, thus requiring a high degree of technical skill and musicianship. The vocalists tend to be very diverse and it is difficult to find unifying themes across the genre, though a singer with a very strong, epic-sounding voice is common. The lyrical content of power metal often has high fantasy or sword & sorcery themes. Many power metal bands are known for an over-the-top stage presence. A prime example of which is Manowar, who have on two separate occassions broken the records as "The World's Loudest Band."

Notable Bands: Hammerfall, Blind Guardian, Helloween, Manowar, Nightwish, Rhapsody, (arguably) Iced Earth, Dragonforce[/quote]

Looking back, I can't believe I forgot to include Stratovarius on that list.

[QUOTE=Steerpike]Speed metal is just another name for Thrash. Power metal is a real genre, and Iron Maiden and Judas Priest are [i]not[/i] part of it.

Here was the definition I submitted like 10 pages back:



Looking back, I can't believe I forgot to include Stratovarius on that list.[/QUOTE]
As I was re-reading that I thought the same thing before I read what you typed.

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[QUOTE=Steerpike]The vocalists tend to be very diverse and it is difficult to find unifying themes across the genre, though a singer with a very strong, epic-sounding voice is common.[/QUOTE]

Very diverse? I think that power metal vocals are all about high pitched melodies, often including falsettos. I can't think of any power metal band that have a singer who's singing mid-range. Bands I consider power : (those you listed), Angra, Edguy, Dream Evil, Primal Fear, Sonata Arctica, Lost Horizon.

Oh and, by the way, where does Evergrey belong?

[QUOTE=evil ernie]Very diverse? I think that power metal vocals are all about high pitched melodies, often including falsettos. I can't think of any power metal band that have a singer who's singing mid-range. Bands I consider power : (those you listed), Angra, Edguy, Dream Evil, Primal Fear, Sonata Arctica, Lost Horizon.[/QUOTE]

In retrospect, I probably should have said that the vocalists' ranges and training backgrounds tend to be similar, but they do have very diverse forms of expression.

Hansi Kursch has his majestic bellows. Tarja sings in pure opera. Fabio Lione and Timo Kotipelto have a classical/rock blend. Eric Adams focuses on pure savagery and aggression.

So they do remain diverse, at least in comparison to some other sub-genres of metal. Death metal's Cookie Monster vox comes to mind, as well as Black Metal's raspy, phlegmy grunts and croaks.

Okay guys - Nevermore. Where'd you place them? For me they hover between Power and Thrash.

I only got to the second page but..
 

I only got to the second page but...

so far it seems like you all forgot RAP METAL!! DUH! The best type of metal there is!

Rap Metal is basically just what it says: people rapping and screaming. Rap metal bands are somewhat hard to come by. Most bands just have some songs be rap metal. For instance, V-Mob, half their stuff is rap metal. the other half is other kinds of metal. Also, slipknot's "spit it out" is an excellent example of rap metal.

aahhhh....I love rap metal... :thumb:

I'm not sure if rap metal is actually considered a genre. I think it's more of sub-movement of nu-metal.

And if you declare anything to be "the best," then you better be prepared to face some of this forum's more volatile personalities.

Ok Steerpike you have a point. Compared to death and black metal, power metal vocalists are a lot more diverse, even if death metal has its own vocal diversity with singers like Swano or Akerfeltd that blend death growls with clean vocals.

I agree that Nevermore are kind of hard to label. The AMG classify them in the power metal category, but I don't agree since the guitar work is absolutly not power metal like. In fact, I can't think of any guitarist who plays like Loomis. I think this is the kind of band you can only place in the heavy metal bag, but yeah maybe trash would be kinda acceptable.

Akerfeltd I've heard. He's very impressive. The Cookie Monster vox still leaves me cold, but his clean voice is nothing short of breathtaking. In every genre, there are going to be some exceptions who are willing to experiment.

For example, in Power Metal you mentioned that there weren't many singers using mid-range. Hansi Kursch, Olaf Hayer, and Matt Barlow all used mid-range vocals in a lot of their works, but could still hit the high notes appropriately.

is it true that Burzum was a one-man band(Count Grishnackh)and that he is doing time for murder?

[QUOTE=RivFader]is it true that Burzum was a one-man band(Count Grishnackh)and that he is doing time for murder?[/QUOTE]

Indeed.

Here's some info, you can find plenty on the Internet.

[url]http://letthemeatlead.com/article.php?a=archives/issue6/mayhem.htm[/url]
[url]http://www.metalstorm.ee/bands/view_band.php?band_id=burzum[/url]

By the way, I really don't like his music, it sickens me. :wave:

[QUOTE=Steerpike]Speed metal is just another name for Thrash.[/QUOTE]
I never would have thought you we're this clueless. Tell me this: do Motörhead or Priest's Painkiller sound like thrash to you?

[QUOTE=schweinhunt]I never would have thought you we're this clueless. Tell me this: do Motörhead or Priest's Painkiller sound like thrash to you?[/QUOTE]

You know, this is very much where you and I cannot see eye to eye. So I was misinformed. You can't be content to calmly, and politely correct me, can you?

Alright, I made a mistake. Not the first time, won't be the last. Are you satisfied?

[QUOTE=Steerpike]Alright, I made a mistake. Not the first time, won't be the last. Are you satisfied?[/QUOTE]
Yes.

Hey would someone please tell me what catagory impaled Nazarene falls into?

This type of genre's forum has gone on for way too long now... ::turns up lil wyte::

[QUOTE=Impaled Death]Hey would someone please tell me what catagory impaled Nazarene falls into?[/QUOTE]

Never heard them. Let me check... Black Metal.

[QUOTE=procreationb]This type of genre's forum has gone on for way too long now... ::turns up lil wyte::[/QUOTE]

::turns it up louder to drown out everyones repeated comments::

[QUOTE=procreationb]This type of genre's forum has gone on for way too long now... ::turns up lil wyte::[/QUOTE]

Are you saying that people arguing about genres has gone on too long because, try as I might, I can't decipher your post.