[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo;13423050]What kind of stuff do you write, Pate? I've only heard the song your entered in the swords and sorcery comp, so I've always been under the impression that you write black metal.[/QUOTE]

Oh, I write all kinds of stuff. Blues, acoustic, traditional metal, death metal, doom metal, thrash metal, black metal. I seriously cannot go five minutes without coming up with a cool (at the time) idea.

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo;13421956]Knifeboy - I'm not quite sure how VST's work..Do you run that in Cool Edit or what? I've downloaded a few and tried to run them in Audacity to no avail. I've also tried to use a VST host which also didn't work.

:confused:[/QUOTE]

Audicity and cool edit doesn't really offer much support for VST's, I use fruityloops for VSTs..
The "demo" version of renoise : [url]http://www.renoise.com/download.php[/url] is a good freely available alternative though.. Only downside is, you can't export your work to a sound file in the demo.. But that's not much of a problem , since you can just play it, and record the output with another program

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen;13423067]Ew, that songs would sound horrible in an arrangement.[/QUOTE]

stop being wrong

i have fl, knifeboy

can you record in fl though

Yeah, you can, but I don't know how.. Hehehe. I just use it for sequencing

If I can find a way of making it work in Finale, that would be sweet. From a compositional standpoint, I find sequencing somewhat pointless. Although fun to play with, there's really no need for them, and they make a poor substitute if you're actually trying to write parts for the given instruments, as the mechanics of a piano are completely different than those of...say, a distorted guitar, or a violin. Programmed instruments can be very limited, especially in terms of feel, but trying to record polyphonic music of that degree takes "pain in the ***" to new levels. :p

I'm over halfway done with my (s[SIZE=2]hitty[/SIZE]) orchestral Bleak. It needs some work, but I'll upload it when I'm done.

I cannot STAND programming keyboard lines that I can't play. There's no bloody dynamics at all, and it usually comes out rather mechanical sounding, coupled with the only semidecency of the soundclips.

True, but it gets the ideas out there and provides a template to use when you finally decide to hire/find people to play everything.

Finale is capable of incorporating dynamic changes, by the way. It simply takes more time....you have to actually write in all of the accentuations, etc...although, in some respect, this is actually a good thing, as it trains your mind to become more precise in transcriptions.

[QUOTE=Knifeboy;13421355]Edirol HQ Orchestral VST[/QUOTE]

Sounds tasty...yeah, I'll take it, if you don't mind. My e-mail address is [email]twpinson@yahoo.com[/email]

if you wanna make the music have more feel, you have to put it thru filters and automate a lot of it throughout the song... Ususally you get a base down and then run it through all of the stuff until it sounds good. Can be a pain sometimes. I used to be into music producing but it was just a hobby

If you have a velocity sensitive keyboard you can attach the dynamics to pretty much any control, it helps sometimes with what you're trying to do.

Cubase, Ableton and FL will all probably work for those orchestral VST instruments. there's a lot of packs so you can sample them as well, but i've never really tried symphonic stuff like that so I don't know what's good that's out there.

Garageband does a decent job with what I want to do at the moment though. I want to get Logic Pro 7 sooner or later, even though I don't have a grand to spare. :mad:

[url]http://www.emule.com[/url]

If you don't feel bad about stealing, you can get anything from Emule.

The file is sent

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future;13429415]Garageband does a decent job with what I want to do at the moment though. I want to get Logic Pro 7 sooner or later, even though I don't have a grand to spare. :mad:[/QUOTE]


You wouldnt steal it?

When will Garageband become PC compatible? :mad:

@Dr. Jake Destructo, I don't think it will ever happen

I know, but I can only hope...Is there any PC-compatible program with the versatily and ease of use that can paralell Garageband?

[QUOTE=Crysiss;13432952]You wouldnt steal it?[/QUOTE]

Course I would, aside from the fact that it's impossible to find Mac centric software to steal.

EDIT: Ted, am I doing something wrong with this site? Where do I find stuff?

Yeah, I feel stupid for not being able to navigate a site with 3 links. :p

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future;13434079]Course I would, aside from the fact that it's impossible to find Mac centric software to steal.

EDIT: Ted, am I doing something wrong with this site? Where do I find stuff?[/QUOTE]

You have to download the Emule program...it's a P2P file sharing program similar to Limewire, etc. Cool avatar, btw...what's it from?

[QUOTE=Knifeboy;13432478]The file is sent[/QUOTE]

Cool, I got it....thanks alot, man! Unfortunately, I've had a whole lot of...no time to work on stuff lately.

My Arms, Your Hearse is genius.

Especially Karma.

That song is great, one of my favorites. The drums are sooo damn good.

[QUOTE=Killtacular;13437040]My Arms, Your Hearse is genius.

Especially Karma.[/QUOTE]

Personally Ive always found Karma one of the weaker tracks on MAYH, Im more of a fan of April Ethereal. I think the Amen Corner is underated - its not one of the highlights of the album, but its a solid Opeth tracks with great riffs and lyrics.

Opeth played in my backyard last night.

[QUOTE=Killtacular;13437040]My Arms, Your Hearse is genius.

Especially Karma.[/QUOTE]
I'm really digging Epilogue right now. What a powerful way to end that album.

[QUOTE=Det_Nosnip;13436877]You have to download the Emule program...it's a P2P file sharing program similar to Limewire, etc. Cool avatar, btw...what's it from?[/QUOTE]

Tis the cover of Ghosts Of Loss by Swallow The Sun. Absolutely terrific doom album.

Ah, ok...man, now I gotta download more stuff. :mad:

[QUOTE=Thor;13438926]I'm really digging Epilogue right now. What a powerful way to end that album.[/QUOTE]

Yeah Epilogue is great. Even though I don't listen to it as much as I should.

[I]NP: Serenity Painted Death.[/I]

So I finally got around to learning all of the bass parts in The Leper Affinity. What a fun song to play with.

duh nuh-nuh nerrw nuh nuh, nerw nah-nah nuh nah

DUH DUH DUN DUN

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKFBn-97_9k[/url]

Every Opeth fan must see this video. It's so awesome and hilarious.

[QUOTE=Eliminator;13439375]duh nuh-nuh nerrw nuh nuh, nerw nah-nah nuh nah

DUH DUH DUN DUN[/QUOTE]

hahaha.

tritones have never sounded so good.

[QUOTE=Thor;13439394][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKFBn-97_9k[/url]

Every Opeth fan must see this video. It's so awesome and hilarious.[/QUOTE]

That was NOT ****ing Guns N Roses.

Ted, eMule only works for Windows...:mad:

[QUOTE=Thor;13439394][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKFBn-97_9k[/url]

Every Opeth fan must see this video. It's so awesome and hilarious.[/QUOTE]

heh.... Smoke on the water by Black Sabbath?

[QUOTE=Thor;13439366]So I finally got around to learning all of the bass parts in The Leper Affinity. What a fun song to play with.[/QUOTE]
Oh boy yes. It tires my hand a lot, and I can't really sing the "I am beyond death, mdist this dreaming affinity... yabadda" part and play it at the same time. Or make my hands work at the acoustic, mellow part in a solid way.

On a related note, The growled section of Moonlapse Vertigo is actually pretty play-sing-along, but I can't get around it yet. =[

sup a lot of new people.

[QUOTE=Thor;13439394]Every Opeth fan must see this video. It's so awesome and hilarious.[/QUOTE]

Try this:

[url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v36/juddy/opeth_timmy.gif[/url]

[QUOTE=beso negro;13439437]hahaha.

tritones have never sounded so good.[/QUOTE]

There are a bunch of tritone parts in that song.

You never realize how much you suck until you try learning other people's songs. :(

[QUOTE=Eliminator;13439596]There are a bunch of tritone parts in that song.

You never realize how much you suck until you try learning other people's songs. :([/QUOTE]
Do you know what's worse than that?

Not having an idea of what a tritone is lolol

*wikis*

a tritone is an augmented 4th or diminished 5th. If you play guitar, play this:

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-10
-9-
-8-
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that's the tritone. The church banned the tritone hundreds of years ago because they hated the sound. It was coined " the devil's interval"

Opeth uses it in many songs.