[QUOTE=Ghoul Hunter;16450343]mf do you like cripple bastards?[/QUOTE]

Band rules.

[QUOTE=Malfeitor;16450338][b]Irrelevant, completely different style/s of BM than anything Mayhem ever did[/b]



Yea, I didn't look at it. I knew you like core though... there is SOME (very little) good hardcore... I like old grindcore, crust and powerviolence though. Bet you wouldn't have dreamt of that.[/QUOTE]

There is plenty of good hardcore, don't be stupid.

Wow, you are actually pretty cool.

[QUOTE=Malfeitor;16450338][b]Irrelevant, completely different style/s of BM than anything Mayhem ever did[/b].[/QUOTE]

i know, i'm just saying that DMDS wasn't the start of black metal as we know it.

Atilla almost ruined DMDS, I don't care what anyone says. Unique or not, his voice just ****ing sucks.

[QUOTE=Ghoul Hunter;16450386]answer my question you butt[/QUOTE]

haven't heard


mass namedrop for what i like in core

Amebix, Anarcrust, Antisect, Extinction of Mankind, Hellbastard, Hellkrusher, Hiatus, Anti-Cimex, DS13, Infest, **** on the Beach, Siege, Stack, Anarchus, Magrudergrind, Nausea, Nuclear Death...

[QUOTE=Stevie II;16450410]i know, i'm just saying that DMDS wasn't the start of black metal as we know it.[/QUOTE]

To be honest, you people, for all your glaring inelite faults, are collectively more knowledgable than most other places on the internet for BM, aside from chatrooms/p2p. If you're talking about the typical BM fan, the 16 year old with a Emperor poster on his wall, then DMDS is the definitive BM album for him, it spawned most of what he listens to. Not to detract from the album itself, and no I'm not saying Emperor is similar to DMDS that was just an eg... if you get what I mean

Anyway I'm gonna try and rap this up by saying that DMDS defined and spawned the more mainstream branch of BM

[QUOTE=Malfeitor;16450568]To be honest, you people, for all your glaring inelite faults, are collectively more knowledgable than most other places on the internet for BM, aside from chatrooms/p2p.[/QUOTE]

now theres a narrowed down compliment :-/

It's true though... most other places on the net that discuss black metal... the most elite thing they listen to is Under a Funeral Moon...

[QUOTE=Ghoul Hunter;16450292]daudi baldrs is my favorite Burzum album so yeah[/QUOTE]

haha i was at fye the other day and saw burzum and was like oshi but then it was daudi baldrs

[QUOTE=Charizard;16450307]im partial to det som engang var, personally

i think its the breakdowns[/QUOTE]

Det Som Engang Var is indeed the most quality.

Mysticum btw

[QUOTE=Angmar;16450802]Det Som Engang Var is indeed the most quality.[/QUOTE]

its so ****ing badass sounding, which isnt normally what im looking for in a black metal record

[QUOTE=Stevie II;16450410]i know, i'm just saying that DMDS wasn't the start of black metal as we know it.[/QUOTE]

Yeah obviously not, I was just saying that album definitely had the most widespread impact considering the events occurring at the time and it was the embodiment of most if not all musical elements that are considered to be part of black metal. Sure some of those bands you mentioned, in particular the Norweigan ones had releases before but hell, Mayhem were playing much of the songs on DMDS in like 89-90 when a large number of those bands you mentioned were still playing Death Metal or just discovering what Black Metal is. I wouldn't be surprised if many of the bands were even heavily influenced and built on the groundwork Mayhem laid down with those songs considering how tight knit the scene was at the time. The other bands were far behind as Mayhem has been doing black metal for quite some time before them so it just seems to me they had to rush and release whatever they could at the time because it was starting to pick up.

i think dmds would be much better with different vocals, like i know you think they sound "evil" as hell, but to me, atilla just sounds like hes got a lot of phlegmn in his throat

Eh I think they're really haunting and ominous sounding.

idk, cant dig it for some reason, i like dead's vocals (i used to hate them, i know blah) because he just sounded so batshit insane

Yeah Dead does have some good vocals but its always been hard for me to imagine him on DMDS.

[QUOTE=DERSIEGDERKRIEGDERKAMPF;16451153]Yeah obviously not, I was just saying that album definitely had the most widespread impact considering the events occurring at the time and it was the embodiment of most if not all musical elements that are considered to be part of black metal. Sure some of those bands you mentioned, in particular the Norweigan ones had releases before but hell, Mayhem were playing much of the songs on DMDS in like 89-90 when a large number of those bands you mentioned were still playing Death Metal or just discovering what Black Metal is. I wouldn't be surprised if many of the bands were even heavily influenced and built on the groundwork Mayhem laid down with those songs considering how tight knit the scene was at the time. The other bands were far behind as Mayhem has been doing black metal for quite some time before them so it just seems to me they had to rush and release whatever they could at the time because it was starting to pick up.[/QUOTE]

yeah i forgot to mention that they were playing the DMDS material that early - maybe not 89 but certainly leipzig was recorded late 90. i think dead was responsible for the majority, if not all of the lyrics to DMDS. the focus is certainly morbid and cold rather than euronymous oriented belief in a 7 horned devil.

if it wasn't for euronymous' murder though how important would the album have been?

It would have still been important I guess because Mayhem were still one of the most important bands in the black metal scene anyways prior to the murder. Im going to say it would have still been one of the most important releases for the Norweigan black metal scene but it would not have been elevated as high.

Yeah if Euro didn't die and that lineup continued after to release more it definitely wouldn't be as important.

[QUOTE=1338 h4x0r;16450850]Mysticum btw[/QUOTE]

Now thats a ****ing killer album, one of the best from Norway id say.

[QUOTE=Malfeitor;16450506]haven't heard


mass namedrop for what i like in core

Amebix, Anarcrust, Antisect, Extinction of Mankind, Hellbastard, Hellkrusher, Hiatus, Anti-Cimex, DS13, Infest, **** on the Beach, Siege, Stack, Anarchus, Magrudergrind, Nausea, Nuclear Death...[/QUOTE]

Yeah man, good ****.

So DSBM in general is complete ****, and rarely will I bother with anything from that movement, but today I downloaded an album that is quite interesting. Aside from Sterbend I really have no interest in this certain "movement", but Austere has released some not so bad tracks that I discovered today. If you've heard Dwelling Lifeless by Sterbend you'll be familiar with the sound (similar instrumentally - pretty snare driven and the riffs don't stray too far from one another, and the vocals are high and distant with little to no aggression to them).

It's of course generic and brings nothing new, but it is appealing to me in some desolate and hopeless way.

Nyktalgia are pretty good in the genre, don't like Sterbend much.

This album is getting better though. It seems to have a lot less filler and annoyingly clanky production, to which 3/4s of myspace black metal bands seem to have. Everything is very well timed, too.

I'll look into it, I've been considering getting some Sombres Forets as well.

Sombres Forets are a good band. You should also consider checking out Gris if you haven't. Il Etait une Foret is a good cd, also all I've heard by the band so far. The last song on that album is all piano, violin, acoustic guitar and it is absolutely brilliant.



The typical dsbm sound gets tiring extremely quickly.

Yeah. Sombres Forets get boring after 5 or so minutes, but they're good for a listen every now and then.

[QUOTE=Nostalgia;16451867]Yeah. Sombres Forets get boring after 5 or so minutes, but they're good for a listen every now and then.[/QUOTE]

Eh, it depends. Their second album is better then the first.

There are some parts on the second album that are extremely well done and pretty perfect, but I find there is a little something missing, something I can't pin-point.

remember that time when i thought the title was in french, but it actually was in english? lul

hahah yeah

If it makes you feel better, it can be said in both french and english.