I'd dated a drama girl in high school..... lets just say she had a crazy(in a negative way).

[QUOTE=Cain]You know, I think the business of internet communication is belittled simply because of the deeply-ingrained image of the 40-year-old man posing as a 13-year-old-girl who is hungry for sex. Of course, that's a risk we all run, but MX has done wonders for my maturation in politics, music and discussion. There are loads of smart people here.[/QUOTE]

It's a social stigma largely because people still see it as nothing more than a substitute for real human contact.

Ironically, the people who use that sort of stereotype communicate more with their friends and relatives via cell phone and IM than face-to-face talking.

[QUOTE=Superpeer]Hah, that's cool. :)[/quote]

I was actually going to buy it later in February and start wearing it to parties just to see people's responses.

[QUOTE=Cain]Well, I understand that, but to be honest, the relationship has been going on for 1 year five months, and certain fundamental issues that cause the both of us extreme unhappiness have not been resolved. We care very deeply for each other still, but even so, I'm tired of it all and I am going to need a break. I'm just weary, you know?[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I understand. If it really are problems that can't be solved, than yeah, I guess it can't work out, but most things can change if effort is put forth, of course if she's just another girl, then why bother, but if you say you care deeply for her, you'll need to think about it.

[QUOTE=Alex]It's a social stigma largely because people still see it as nothing more than a substitute for real human contact.
[/QUOTE]

Very well stated :)

[QUOTE=Steerpike]It's a social stigma largely because people still see it as nothing more than a substitute for real human contact.

Ironically, the people who use that sort of stereotype communicate more with their friends and relatives via cell phone and IM than face-to-face talking.



I was actually going to buy it later in February and start wearing it to parties just to see people's responses.[/QUOTE]

Hah, I've been here so long that it's come to the point where I talk more in English on IM than in my own language. Which is weird, but I love having a multicultural MSN list. There's always *someone* online.


Wear in public, eh? At your own risk. =o

[QUOTE=Cain]Well, I understand that, but to be honest, the relationship has been going on for 1 year five months, and certain fundamental issues that cause the both of us extreme unhappiness have not been resolved. We care very deeply for each other still, but even so, I'm tired of it all and I am going to need a break. I'm just weary, you know?[/QUOTE]

Do what you feel is best for your mutual mental and emotional health, but keep in mind that if you "go on a break" that may just be a fancy way of dressing up the end of the relationship. I'm not saying it can't be brought back, just that humans in general are very bad at dealing with this sort of thing. Situations like this get precieved as rejection, failure, that sort of thing, and we let that get to us more than we should.

For what it's worth, you have us backing you up.

[QUOTE=Superpeer]Yeah, I understand. If it really are problems that can't be solved, than yeah, I guess it can't work out, but most things can change if effort is put forth, of course if she's just another girl, then why bother, but if you say you care deeply for her, you'll need to think about it.[/QUOTE]

The thing is, I feel at the end of my rope precisely because I feel as though I've done everything I can. But the basic issue is of an overreliance on me by my gf because she doesn't have many close outside friendships, and many of my friends have various problems with her because of her awkwardness around them. It's all very stupid, but the effect is to make me torn between the two entities I care about the most, and I can't make them talk to one another to resolve it. They need to do it themselves and both are unwilling, so I fulfill every role I shouldn't have to fulfill for my gf, which puts insane levels of pressure on me. For instance, were I to leave her, who would she turn to to help her cope? I care too much about her to see that happen, but on the other hand I just can't handle the alternative by this point.

Okay dudes, I'm gonna go get some dinner. Nice talking to y'all.

EDIT: By break, I mean an end to me being in a relationship. There would be no confusion on that front. I would be seperate from her and she would be seperate from me. I would need to be single for a while, I feel. But she's pretty ill now and isn't inclined to talk to any of my friends about this anyway, so we'll see how things pan out.

[QUOTE=Superpeer]Wear in public, eh? At your own risk. =o[/QUOTE]

Feh. What are they gonna do? In middle school I used to rituallistically get the crap beaten out of me for less. So what if some uptight little square-head looks down on me. It's their own fault for not having a sense of humor.

Owned by the page turn. See ya guys, dinnertime.

[QUOTE=Cain]overreliance[/QUOTE]

In what ways does she express this?

[QUOTE]so I fulfill every role I shouldn't have to fulfill for my gf, which puts insane levels of pressure on me[/QUOTE]

What kind of roles?

[QUOTE]Feh. What are they gonna do? In middle school I used to rituallistically get the crap beaten out of me for less. So what if some uptight little square-head looks down on me. It's their own fault for not having a sense of humor.[/QUOTE]

I think it's kind of a lame shirt, but then again, what do I know

[QUOTE=Cain]The thing is, I feel at the end of my rope precisely because I feel as though I've done everything I can. But the basic issue is of an overreliance on me by my gf because she doesn't have many close outside friendships, and many of my friends have various problems with her because of her awkwardness around them. It's all very stupid, but the effect is to make me torn between the two entities I care about the most, and I can't make them talk to one another to resolve it. They need to do it themselves and both are unwilling, so I fulfill every role I shouldn't have to fulfill for my gf, which puts insane levels of pressure on me. For instance, were I to leave her, who would she turn to to help her cope? I care too much about her to see that happen, but on the other hand I just can't handle the alternative by this point.

Okay dudes, I'm gonna go get some dinner. Nice talking to y'all.

EDIT: By break, I mean an end to me being in a relationship. There would be no confusion on that front. I would be seperate from her and she would be seperate from me. I would need to be single for a while, I feel. But she's pretty ill now and isn't inclined to talk to any of my friends about this anyway, so we'll see how things pan out.[/QUOTE]

That's a tough situation, I can emphatise with that. It's never good when your girlfriend and your friends don't get along, especially when your girlfriend doesn't have many (good) friends of her own. I can understand completly how much pressure that would put on you, because I know girls can be very demanding. The word attention whore did not originate out of fiction. :\ On top of that, you can't neglect your friends either.

Let's just hope that your friends and your girl work it out, because it would be a shame that because of other people not getting along, you would lose someone you care about. The more they see each other, the better they will get along, I would think. Just push them in each other's throats. It's always strange when friends and girlfriend don't get along, because, in theory, you'd pick the same type of people to hang around with, so they'd have to get along by definition.

To me a girlfriend should be like a best friend, who just happen to fu[COLOR="White"]c[/COLOR]k when you feel like it and who also costs a lot more. :)

I've been freaking owned so bad...

OK, a friend of mine... has been very touchy feely with me... and I've had a thing for her for quite some time now... though I've been too much a sissy to ask her out... today she comes out of the closet :upset:.

[QUOTE=Eleventeen]I've been freaking owned so bad...

OK, a friend of mine... has been very touchy feely with me... and I've had a thing for her for quite some time now... though I've been too much a sissy to ask her out... today she comes out of the closet :upset:.[/QUOTE]

what do you mean? :confused:

[QUOTE=Steerpike]Feh. What are they gonna do? In middle school I used to rituallistically get the crap beaten out of me for less. So what if some uptight little square-head looks down on me. It's their own fault for not having a sense of humor.[/QUOTE]

Maybe they'll think you're trying to draw attention away from your manhood by saying how big your brain is. =o

That's the danger of the T-shirt, I didn't actually expect you to get beaten up. :)


[QUOTE]what do you mean?[/QUOTE]

She likes peaches.

EDIT: it also means she's gonna get more pus[COLOR="White"]s[/COLOR]y than he. :lol:

[QUOTE=Stoic]what do you mean? :confused:[/QUOTE]

She's a lesbian, she told me and some other close friends today.

[QUOTE=Eleventeen]She's a lesbian, she told me and some other close friends today.[/QUOTE]

F[I]U[/I]CK! :S

[QUOTE=Stoic]F[I]U[/I]CK! :S[/QUOTE]

Yeah dude, I be mad :upset:

[QUOTE=Eleventeen]She's a lesbian, she told me and some other close friends today.[/QUOTE]

ba-zing!

I have a close female friend who is a lesbian (and god knows why, she's absolutely stunning) and for some reason it's easier to hang out with her, because we can flirt all we want with the knowledge that it will never lead to anything.

Thats too bad.

Out of curiosity, is a hot lesbian?

[QUOTE=Illmatic]ba-zing!

I have a close female friend who is a lesbian (and god knows why, she's absolutely stunning) and for some reason it's easier to hang out with her, because we can flirt all we want with the knowledge that it will never lead to anything.[/QUOTE]

Eh? That would suck for me... because I would like it to lead to something :upset:

[QUOTE=GenuineImitation]Thats too bad.

Out of curiosity, is a hot lesbian?[/QUOTE]

Yes, extremely.

haha lesbians will get you every time.

[QUOTE=Superpeer]That's a tough situation, I can emphatise with that. It's never good when your girlfriend and your friends don't get along, especially when your girlfriend doesn't have many (good) friends of her own. I can understand completly how much pressure that would put on you, because I know girls can be very demanding. The word attention whore did not originate out of fiction. :\ On top of that, you can't neglect your friends either.

Let's just hope that your friends and your girl work it out, because it would be a shame that because of other people not getting along, you would lose someone you care about. The more they see each other, the better they will get along, I would think. Just push them in each other's throats. It's always strange when friends and girlfriend don't get along, because, in theory, you'd pick the same type of people to hang around with, so they'd have to get along by definition.[/quote]

I'd agree with this. I don't get along with some of my friends' girlfriends (and it's not just me, by the way, but other friends as well - and it's not because we're jealous, it's because she's a royal bitch), and my friends didn't see eye-to-eye with my girlfriends [size=-2]okay shut up I'm just going with this for the sake of an example[/size], so yeah, it's not a fun situation.

[quote]To me a girlfriend should be like a best friend, who just happen to fu[COLOR="White"]c[/COLOR]k when you feel like it and who also costs a lot more. :)[/QUOTE]

refl

[QUOTE]Eh? That would suck for me... because I would like it to lead to something [/QUOTE]

Seeing as how I have a woman, it's important that nothing happens between me and any friend of the opposite sex.

[QUOTE=Illmatic]ba-zing!

I have a close female friend who is a lesbian (and god knows why, she's absolutely stunning) and for some reason it's easier to hang out with her, because we can flirt all we want with the knowledge that it will never lead to anything.[/QUOTE]

Yes, why would a woman who is attracted to women cultivate an appearence of beauty? :p

I'm pissed... she's such a friggin' **** tease... like... she is always touching me and what not... :(

[QUOTE=Illmatic]Seeing as how I have a woman, it's important that nothing happens between me and any friend of the opposite sex.[/QUOTE]

fair point :thumb:

Did she touch you in the no-no place?

[QUOTE=guitrguy]Did she touch you in the no-no place?[/QUOTE]

No, but close.

[QUOTE=Eleventeen]No, but close.[/QUOTE]
Then that don't mean a thing.

[QUOTE=guitrguy]Then that don't mean a thing.[/QUOTE]

I think the reaching of a hand up the shorts and tickling of the inner thigh is definately coming on a bit strong...