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RouteOne 07-01-2008 05:37 PM

[QUOTE=Silenius;16449239]WIITR no, new Drudkh maybe not, but old Drudkh certainly knew how to create an atmosphere and how to build up to a high point which takes some skill. I never said great either, you said no skill which is what I was arguing. Listen to Autumn Aurora and tell me anyone could just pick up an instrument and write something like that.[/QUOTE]

Older Drudkh is great stuff. Not a huge fan of their latest, but its still good material.

Like I said before, WITTR have talent, people just don't like their message.

Angmar 07-01-2008 05:39 PM

I <3 all Drudkh :)

Silenius 07-01-2008 05:39 PM

I could do without Estrangement and Songs...

Malfeitor 07-01-2008 05:39 PM

[QUOTE=Nostalgia;16449228]Well that doesn't say much, since there was only two people in the argument.[/QUOTE]

It does: you initiated it and the crux of your argument was entirely irrelevant. Stop being a ****in idiot

RouteOne 07-01-2008 05:40 PM

Everyone check out Njiqahdda

DERSIEGDERKRIEGDERKAMPF 07-01-2008 05:41 PM

[QUOTE=Silenius;16449239]WIITR no, new Drudkh maybe not, but old Drudkh certainly knew how to create an atmosphere and how to build up to a high point which takes some skill. I never said great either, you said no skill which is what I was arguing. Listen to Autumn Aurora and tell me anyone could just pick up an instrument and write something like that.[/QUOTE]

I said they're lacking skill and songwriting ability. Why do people seem to be arguing **** im not even saying or implying.

The fact WITTR has very little skill at songwriting has nothing to do with their message.

Angmar 07-01-2008 05:46 PM

[QUOTE=Mr. Ron;16449262]Everyone check out Njiqahdda[/QUOTE]

Sure, what album?

RouteOne 07-01-2008 05:49 PM

[QUOTE=DERSIEGDERKRIEGDERKAMPF;16449264]I said they're lacking skill and songwriting ability. Why do people seem to be arguing **** im not even saying or implying.

The fact WITTR has very little skill at songwriting has nothing to do with their message.[/QUOTE]

Not attacking you or anything, I'm just wondering what exactly you see as "skill" in writing black metal.

[QUOTE=Angmar;16449278]Sure, what album?[/QUOTE]

Personally I like Their newest.

DERSIEGDERKRIEGDERKAMPF 07-01-2008 05:52 PM

[QUOTE=Mr. Ron;16449284]Not attacking you or anything, I'm just wondering what exactly you see as "skill" in writing black metal.



[/QUOTE]

That is a good question, im heading out soon but I will write up a reply for this later tonight when im back.

Silenius 07-01-2008 05:52 PM

[QUOTE=DERSIEGDERKRIEGDERKAMPF;16449264]I said they're lacking skill and songwriting ability. Why do people seem to be arguing **** im not even saying or implying.

The fact WITTR has very little skill at songwriting has nothing to do with their message.[/QUOTE]

WTF I just said you changed it up from lacking skill and songwriting ability to not being great at those things (which is more subjective). I never talked about their message or any **** like that that was Ron. Nice ninja on the original response btw. :)

RouteOne 07-01-2008 05:54 PM

[QUOTE=DERSIEGDERKRIEGDERKAMPF;16449291]That is a good question, im heading out soon but I will write up a reply for this later tonight when im back.[/QUOTE]

No problem, take your time.

masada 07-01-2008 05:54 PM

[quote]WTF I just said you changed it up from lacking skill and songwriting ability to not being great at those things (which is more subjective).[/quote] lol wut

Silenius 07-01-2008 05:56 PM

severly lacking and not great is a big difference.

masada 07-01-2008 05:56 PM

oh ****

DERSIEGDERKRIEGDERKAMPF 07-01-2008 05:57 PM

[QUOTE=Silenius;16449292]WTF I just said you changed it up from lacking skill and songwriting ability to not being great at those things (which is more subjective). I never talked about their message or any **** like that that was Ron. Nice ninja on the original response btw. :)[/QUOTE]

What the ****?

Silenius: "I never said great either, you said no skill which is what I was arguing."

I never said no skill at any point. Ninja of the original response? All I edited was to say for fans of neofolk tinged black metal, thats it. Also I never said you were talking about the message, im too lazy to quote two posts, everyone seemed to pick up on that but you. This is ****ing ridiculous hahahhaha.

RetiredAt21 07-01-2008 08:10 PM

[QUOTE=rasputin;16448087]Ok, I'm in the mood, so help me in my quest to become acquainted with all the kvlt, essential black metal. I'm looking for both dirty as f[size=2]u[/size]ck, brutal as hell bands, as well as more foresty acoustic black metal, obviously only the essentials of both types.

Here is a brief list of black metal bands I already have albums from, so please don't recommend from these:
Arkhon Infaustus, Bathory, Belenos, Black Horizons, Burzum, Daemonarch, Darkthrone, Dissection, Drudkh, Emperor, Fluisterwoud, Gorgoroth, Marduk, Nokturnal Mortum, Primordial, Rotting Christ, Satyricon, Summoning, Sykdom, Ulver, Wolves in the throne Room[/QUOTE]

Wehrhammer - Blut Und Ehre
Forest - Like A Blaze Above The Ashes
Brenoritvrezorkre - Nèvgzérýa
Black Murder - Feasts
Vlad Tepes/Belkretre - March To The Black Holocaust
Blasphemy - Fallen Angel Of Doom
Archgoat - Angelc[I]u[/I]nt
Branikald - To Kampf
VON - Satanic Blood

Malfeitor 07-01-2008 08:14 PM

Wehrhammer, Von, Archgoat, Blasphemy: Great recs

masada 07-01-2008 08:15 PM

dont listen to Brenoritvrezorkre

Angmar 07-01-2008 08:16 PM

The Forest rec is good too.

Brenosodiflvitorkerlol is definitely a miss though.

And that Branikald album is kinda bad, Branikald aren't very interesting.

rasputin 07-01-2008 08:30 PM

ok the list stands at:
Triskele - Les Murmers de La Foret
Akitsa - La Grandie Infamie
first two enslaved albums
first two dimmu borgir albums
VON - Satanic Blood
impaled nazarene (first two albums)
Archgoat - whore of bethlehem, Angelcunt
Vlad Tepes/Belkretre - March To The Black Holocaust
Beherit
Blasphemy - Fallen Angel of Doom
Revenge
Proclamation
Demoncy - Joined in Darkness
Ash pool
Absu
Mayhem
Krieg's Blue Miasma album.
I shalt become
alatyr
Hagal
Pest (Germany)
Wehrhammer - Blut Und Ehre
Forest - Like A Blaze Above The Ashes
Brenoritvrezorkre - Nèvgzérýa
Black Murder - Feasts
Branikald - To Kampf

After all that, I think I will be tr00

RouteOne 07-01-2008 08:30 PM

Can anyone recommend some symphonic BM that isn't flagrantly homosexual

masada 07-01-2008 08:32 PM

no such thing exists

Angmar 07-01-2008 08:35 PM

[QUOTE=Mr. Ron;16449646]Can anyone recommend some symphonic BM that isn't flagrantly homosexual[/QUOTE]

Try out Kataxu - Hunger of Elements

It's very symphonic but it's also really good.

RouteOne 07-01-2008 08:39 PM

[QUOTE=Angmar;16449659]Try out Kataxu - Hunger of Elements

It's very symphonic but it's also really good.[/QUOTE]

Not bad.

Angmar 07-01-2008 08:43 PM

You check myspace or some shi?

RouteOne 07-01-2008 08:46 PM

Yeah.

McP3000 07-02-2008 12:44 AM

np: Dissection-Storm of the Lights Bane

Not bad...not amazing either. Intro track is pretty badass, second track is just alright. Third track is good again.

Silenius 07-02-2008 12:57 AM

[QUOTE=DERSIEGDERKRIEGDERKAMPF;16449311]What the ****?

Silenius: "I never said great either, you said no skill which is what I was arguing."

I never said no skill at any point. Ninja of the original response? All I edited was to say for fans of neofolk tinged black metal, thats it. Also I never said you were talking about the message, im too lazy to quote two posts, everyone seemed to pick up on that but you. This is ****ing ridiculous hahahhaha.[/QUOTE]

"Drudkh does have some skill, WITTR really has no skill at all, it amazes me how something so talentless is so praised."

That's what you ninjaed.

Semantics aside I am simply saying Drudkh and Summoning are quite capable of writing well thought out and even intricate music in response to you criticizing their musical abilities. This is regardless of what we think of the bands style and whether we like them or not.

Rasputin - /mandatory thread recommendation of Basilisk

Nostalgia 07-02-2008 12:59 AM

Dissection reminds me of I'm Charming. He would never stop bitching about how amazing they were.

Therefore, I do not like Dissection.

McP3000 07-02-2008 01:05 AM

you don't like Dissection, because a douchebag liked them

thats dumb

fyi...this is my first listen of dissection. np-thorns of crimson death

i think thorns and the s/t track are the best so far


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