[QUOTE=Luc214;13392803]SW?

Isn't that Mikael?[/QUOTE]

The clean parts on Bleak are partially Akerfeldt, partially Wilson.
The longer sentences are done by Wilson.
Their clean vox sound so much alike, but you'll hear a slight difference.
:)

IMO SW is better with Mikael than on his own; PT's albums get boring with SW singing all the time

If this was the Porcupine Tree thread, I'd kick you out. Given that it's the Opeth thread, I'll let those kinds of things slide though.

Well his voice is somewhat limited. And a bit weak.

The music's good tho'

[QUOTE=the2stranger;13392821]The clean parts on Bleak are partially Akerfeldt, partially Wilson.
The longer sentences are done by Wilson.
Their clean vox sound so much alike, but you'll hear a slight difference.
:)[/QUOTE]

Yeah he sounds almost exactly like Mikael.

Actually it doesn't. It's just because the vocals are undermixed there (to great effect mind you), that you hardly notice the change. I didn't until someone pointed it out to me, and now they sound completely different.

[QUOTE=Kronos;13392923]Well his voice is somewhat limited. And a bit weak.

The music's good tho'[/QUOTE]

I have to agree with you that SW's voice isn't that strong, however I never get bored of PT, just maybe out of the mood.

[QUOTE=Kage;13392667]Why should that be a bad thing?[/QUOTE]
It isn't. You know, just angry people and stuff.

Anyway... The Funeral Portrait.

[QUOTE=Moses;13393294]I have to agree with you that SW's voice isn't that strong, however I never get bored of PT, just maybe out of the mood.[/QUOTE]


Being a drummer, I'm not very good at musical theory and stuff, but a lot of PT stuff seems to me to be in the same key - the key that SW can sing in, whatever it is. This leads me to get tired of listening to them after a while. But the drumming is great. :smoke:

[QUOTE=Kronos;13393331]Being a drummer, I'm not very good at musical theory and stuff, but a lot of PT stuff seems to me to be in the same key - the key that SW can sing in, whatever it is. This leads me to get tired of listening to them after a while. But the drumming is great. :smoke:[/QUOTE]

Well every song usually goes through a number of keys. There are a few songs that just follow the same pattern though.

See, I told you I didn't know much about keys and stuff. At least I was partly correct in my instincts

Kinda...? :p

SW doesn't have a problem singing in different keys, trust me. Technically speaking, he's probably a better vocalist than Mikael, but I find the latter a bit more emotional.

Yes indeed. What Mikael lacks in technique makes up for it in emotional singing.

Wilson's 3+ part harmonies are what make him stand out in my mind.

Porcupine Tree uses the standard rock keys, C, G, and D...

The reason why a lot of Porcupine Tree songs sound similar is because SW has signature chords that he uses in almost every song. Those chords are Dsus2, Cadd9, Dm9, and Bb6sus2 (?)...

I knew this would get all technical... BurningSky, I was with you til Cadd9, then my mind f r o z e...

I don't think many PT songs sound the same.

And E, A minors are what?

WHAT?

Um..how do I explain what key signatures and chord names are to a nonmusician..?

Tabwise, the chords look like this:

e-0--0--0--1----------
B-3--3--6--1----------
G-2--0--5--0----------
D-0--2--0--0----------
A----3-----1--------
E-----------------

Those are Dsus2, Cadd9, Dm9, and Bb6sus2 respectively...

I love minor 9 chords.

I win with technical chords. Here's a chord that I wrote (and it works musically):

Dsus2+5/G (followed by Dsus2/G)
eb:-0----:---0--|
bb:-3----:---3--|
gb:-3----:---2--|
db:-0----:---0--|
ab:-0----:---0--|
db:-5----:---5--|

Or try this chord:

Fmaj7b5/C:
eb:-0-:
bb:-0-:
gb:-2-:
db:-3-:
ab:-3-:
db:-0-:

Truth be told, I didn't know that these were the names of the chords that I wrote until now.

I'm a huge fan of this chord, which is a Bm6add9...

9
7
7
6
x
7

And this inversion of an E7 chord...

x
5
7
6
x
7

I like this progression:

Am to Amb5 to Em/B to Fmaj7b5/C

-or in tab-

eb:-0-:-0:-0-:-0-:
bb:-1-:-1:-0-:-0-:
gb:-2-:-2:-0-:-2-:
db:-2-:-1:-2-:-3-:
ab:-0-:-0:-2-:-3-:
db:-0-:-0:-X-:-0-:

How about this progression:

e----------------6--9-------------------------
B--6--6--3--2---6--7------------------------------
G--5--5--4--4---6--7------------------------------
D--6--6--4--3---5--6------------------------------
A--x--x--x--x---x---x-----------------------------
E--5--4--4--4---6--7------------------------------

That is A6, Fm, G#m7b5, C#7, Bbm6, Bm6add9...

It sounds great with an aggressive rhythm. Very powerful and dissonant...

[QUOTE=BurningSky;13393882]Porcupine Tree uses the standard rock keys, C, G, and D...

The reason why a lot of Porcupine Tree songs sound similar is because SW has signature chords that he uses in almost every song. Those chords are Dsus2, Cadd9, Dm9, and Bb6sus2 (?)...[/QUOTE]

I don't speak guitarspeak. What's a Bb6sus2?

Also, I believe that Sting was really into 9th chords as well.

Aaah, ok...and does the 6 imply that the 5th is replaced by a 6, or is the 6th in addition to the 5th?

Well, alot of jazz chords exclude the 5th but leave in the 3rd.

I'm seeing Opeth tomorrow! Zomg!

[QUOTE=Det_Nosnip;13395402]Well, alot of jazz chords exclude the 5th but leave in the 3rd.[/QUOTE]

When I play jazz chords, I usually just play 1, 3, and 7 if the chord doesn't call for anything else.

Opeth live is sweetness.

I hate listening to guitarists talk about chords (I'm a guitarist). Such as BurningSky's Bbm6. He means that a 6th is added into the chord, but in normal theory a 6 after a chord just means it's in first inversion, the 3rd would be in the bass.

Ah, confusing...

Yeah, shouldn't it be Bbmadd6, or something similar to that?

what genre is porcupine tree?

borecore

Wow, that was...pointless. :rolleyes:

I would say that PT is progressive post rock.

PT switch genres too much to be nailed down as one.

'Something' - Rock.

ahh i see :p are they anything like dream theater?

i wouldn't say they are. they're progressive, but different.

[QUOTE=Captain Quentin;13396915]ahh i see :p are they anything like dream theater?[/QUOTE]
They're a much more varied band than DT imo, and if you're into any progressive music you'll love Porcupine Tree.

[QUOTE=Clunge;13396928]They're a much more varied band than DT imo, and if you're into any progressive music you'll love Porcupine Tree.[/QUOTE]

this theory hasn't worked out for me yet

The best way to describe Porcupine Tree IMO is progressive pop-rock. The progressive covers all of their ambient instrumental sections, the pop covers their catchiness and verse-chorus-verse song structures, and the rock covers the instrument setup and the band's tone...

So yeah, progressive pop-rock...