it's about how much they rocked with cilff. has some early interviews and a spot with cliff smoking weed that is hilarious.

only cliff smoked weed
correct me if i'm wrong

i know that at least while dave was still in the band, dave and lars smoked weed togehter all the time. i don't know anything about james ever really doing it, but i'm sure that somewhere in there he did. i think i read a quote by les claypool about getting high with kirk in school.

i've never heard anything about lars smoking weed!
james and kirk were big drinkers back then.

[QUOTE=wrongnote85]it's about how much they rocked with cilff. has some early interviews and a spot with cliff smoking weed that is hilarious.[/QUOTE]

Gotta love that scene

"F*ck you puss, fag, slut"

If I remember right, Lars stopped smoking weed after getting married, or because James told him? im not sure.

[QUOTE=Bassopoika]If I remember right, Lars stopped smoking weed after getting married, or because James told him? im not sure.[/QUOTE]

I think he had the odd 'funny' cigarette as a young 'un

[QUOTE=metalcritter666]i've never heard anything about lars smoking weed!
james and kirk were big drinkers back then.[/QUOTE]
lars was a hella big pothead

this is all news to me. I should check out 'cliff em all"

[QUOTE=coolidgeALL]this is all news to me. I should check out 'cliff em all"[/QUOTE]
i still havent seen it :upset:

Its hilarious, you should check it out

[QUOTE=DisposableHeroes]Its hilarious, you should check it out[/QUOTE]
are they all high and or drunk in it?

[QUOTE=willis2441]are they all high and or drunk in it?[/QUOTE]

Pretty much :p I wont tell you any of it so i dont spoil it for ya

[QUOTE=DisposableHeroes]Pretty much :p I wont tell you any of it so i dont spoil it for ya[/QUOTE]
i will prolly never see it cause im poor :lol:

Ok, i am not sure if everyone knows this, but there is a Metallica program called (When Metallica Rule the world) on VH1 thursday 31st of March apparantly, i live in the uk, and have checked my TV guide on Sky digital, and i cannot seem to find it, is anyone else having this problem???

i'll probably go see it eventually...

SHi, I don't have VH1......only Mtv Europe rappers :upset:

[QUOTE=btoto]SHi, I don't have VH1......only Mtv Europe rappers :upset:[/QUOTE]

Are you in the UK man?

[QUOTE=metalcritter666]I don't think standard tuning would be good but the songs were wrote in a drop tuning. Drop C# sounds very good, very thrashy. But yes, Lars snare drum sounds horrible and Rob on bass would be good. The only reason there aren't any guitar solos is because Kirk didn't like the sound of them in the Drop C key. I think that's a really good idea but they're probably going to do that for the next album which should be out this time next year, actually.
Do you use pedals?


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metallica never use standard tuning anyway, always Eb since 1995.[/QUOTE]

Kirk didn't solo because Lars did not let him.
Eb tuning sucks, I'd prefer James to start writing all his songs in E again. I'd prefer James to just write his songs by himself since thats how they come out best. Kirk makes them too bluesy or jazzy for my liking.

First of all it was Bob rock that decided no Solos, it was lars trying to says solos are all about ego, secondly, eb tuning sucks, Subjective, Not objective...
Kirk makes them to bluesy or jazzy.... Jaymez wrote all of Mama said himself.... and a lot of reload.....
The main think kirk does is drain rhythem guitar with solos... S&M is a good example, it pretty hard to get the rhythem guitar in hearing range...

I do agree on the lyrics though, Jaymez does write lyrics well on his own, But there is not much of a demand for lyrics from the heart or soul anymore...

[QUOTE=wrongnote85]i know that at least while dave was still in the band, dave and lars smoked weed togehter all the time. i don't know anything about james ever really doing it, but i'm sure that somewhere in there he did. i think i read a quote by les claypool about getting high with kirk in school.[/QUOTE]
Kirk was heavy into drugs during RTL etc. He stopped because it was ruining his life (MoP) and because his gf said his sperm tasted better without 'em :lol:

[QUOTE=metal_milita]Kirk was heavy into drugs during RTL etc. He stopped because it was ruining his life (MoP) and because his gf said his sperm tasted better without 'em :lol:[/QUOTE]
he was heavier into drugs during the load/reload era

[QUOTE=LarsAgi007]First of all it was Bob rock that decided no Solos, it was lars trying to says solos are all about ego, secondly, eb tuning sucks, Subjective, Not objective...
Kirk makes them to bluesy or jazzy.... Jaymez wrote all of Mama said himself.... and a lot of reload.....
The main think kirk does is drain rhythem guitar with solos... S&M is a good example, it pretty hard to get the rhythem guitar in hearing range...

I do agree on the lyrics though, Jaymez does write lyrics well on his own, But there is not much of a demand for lyrics from the heart or soul anymore...[/QUOTE]

Ya something like Lars thought solo's were dead, but I'm not sure. The first 5 albums are only James work. He wrote every single song with no help. He would refuse to let anyone contribute because it ruined the songs, exept Cliff (Its the only way Cliff agreed to join the band, lead bass guitar). He even wrote most of Kirks solos. Kirks first real solo and riff is in Enter Sandman. Mama said/NEM/Fade to Black are only bluesy or jazzy because thats how its meant to sound. James isn't a metal whore, he writes metal when it fits the song. Imagine a thundrous FFWF riff behind NEM. The point I'm making is that Kirk will put a blues/jazz concept of some sort into every song, but James only does it when its appropriate. Thats why all songs pre-Black kick so much ***.

[QUOTE=willis2441]he was heavier into drugs during the load/reload era[/QUOTE]
No frickin way, I thought he was only into cigars then. Dang, didn't know that.

ps. hitler stole my potato also :evil:

Good point. But that didn't mean James didn't have the ability to create good riffs. Dyers Eve, Blackened etc.
correct me if I'm wrong, but Dave only claims they stole a few of his riffs, not all.
which ones were they?
MOP, and thats all I know.

[QUOTE=LarsAgi007]First of all it was Bob rock that decided no Solos, it was lars trying to says solos are all about ego, secondly, eb tuning sucks, Subjective, Not objective...
Kirk makes them to bluesy or jazzy.... Jaymez wrote all of Mama said himself.... and a lot of reload.....
The main think kirk does is drain rhythem guitar with solos... S&M is a good example, it pretty hard to get the rhythem guitar in hearing range...

[B]I do agree on the lyrics though, Jaymez does write lyrics well on his own, But there is not much of a demand for lyrics from the heart or soul anymore...[/B][/QUOTE]
how sadly true that is. I blame it on the emergence of rap/mainstream.

He would refuse to let anyone contribute because it ruined the songs, exept Cliff (Its the only way Cliff agreed to join the band......

I thought the only way cliff would join the band was if they moved up to the side he was on.. Which they did strait away because they got a lot more credit on that side,

in downtown the main demand was for bands like Motley Crue ect: so they didnt really fit in too well

james' riffs include
motorbreath
hit the lights
creeping death
one
fade to black
whos better now?

[QUOTE=LarsAgi007]He would refuse to let anyone contribute because it ruined the songs, exept Cliff (Its the only way Cliff agreed to join the band......

I thought the only way cliff would join the band was if they moved up to the side he was on.. Which they did strait away because they got a lot more credit on that side,

in downtown the main demand was for bands like Motley Crue ect: so they didnt really fit in too well[/QUOTE]
and that, but the only reason he wanted to quit his old band was because they did not allow him to get creative on his bass (ironic, because all Jason ever wanted was to be allowed to get creative on bass).

[QUOTE=willis2441]james' riffs include
motorbreath
hit the lights
creeping death
one
fade to black
whos better now?[/QUOTE]


I know its not a riff, But don't forget they kick *** Nothing else Matters solo by Jaymez!

[QUOTE=LarsAgi007]I know its not a riff, But don't forget they kick *** Nothing else Matters solo by Jaymez![/QUOTE]
yea that is a good one

[QUOTE=willis2441]james' riffs include
motorbreath
hit the lights
creeping death + solo
one +solo
fade to black +solo
whos better now?[/QUOTE]
correction (i didn't do first 2 because I don't know)
Dyers Eve + solo
Blackened + solo
...AJFA + solo

plus many more.

[QUOTE=metal_milita]and that, but the only reason he wanted to quit his old band was because they did not allow him to get creative on his bass (ironic, because all Jason ever wanted was to be allowed to get creative on bass).[/QUOTE]

I think Jason had every opertunity to get creative on bass... He was/Still is a great bassist, and left because he wanted to take his echobrain project to the next level, But jaymez said i can't be in a band with him if he does that, then jason said ''Fine then i am stepping off)
They gave him chance to reconsider, but he still said NO!, then echobrain failed miserably...
And when Metallica played at a raiders game Jason rang up saying why didnt you tell me ect: And tried taking them all on a guilt trip, then he hinted he wanted to come back into the band, but they all said No!

[QUOTE=LarsAgi007]I know its not a riff, But don't forget they kick *** Nothing else Matters solo by Jaymez![/QUOTE]
James wrote the entire song, and recorded the entire song. Can't ever forget that.

[QUOTE=LarsAgi007]I think Jason had every opertunity to get creative on bass... He was/Still is a great bassist, and left because he wanted to take his echobrain project to the next level, But jaymez said i can't be in a band with him if he does that, then jason said ''Fine then i am stepping off)
They gave him chance to reconsider, but he still said NO!, then echobrain failed miserably...
And when Metallica played at a raiders game Jason rang up saying why didnt you tell me ect: And tried taking them all on a guilt trip, then he hinted he wanted to come back into the band, but they all said No![/QUOTE]
ahaha owned.
But Metallica did not let Jason get creative at all, and bullied him. They just allowed him one song (My friend of misery) and a couple of doodles. Everything else, he had to follow the rythm guitar strictly.

[QUOTE=metal_milita]correction (i didn't do first 2 because I don't know)
Dyers Eve + solo
Blackened + solo
...AJFA + solo

plus many more.[/QUOTE]
i knoiw there are like 8 million more but i didnt feel like listing them

[QUOTE=metal_milita]James wrote the entire song, and recorded the entire song. Can't ever forget that.[/QUOTE]

Hell yea, You can tell, i think Nothing else Matters matches Jaymez perfectly well... I think most of his lyric writing came from drugs and alcohol also, I mean, have you ever sat somewhere drunk??? It makes me at least think about my life in so much more depth... I write lyrics 90% better drunk... I use alot of lyrics in my songs i can't remember writing lol :evil:

Yes, thats true, as jaymez said (We were a little mean to Jason but we needed to whip him into shape)....
They whipped him to much... i guess

[QUOTE=LarsAgi007]Hell yea, You can tell, i think Nothing else Matters matches Jaymez perfectly well... I think most of his lyric writing came from drugs and alcohol also, I mean, have you ever sat somewhere drunk??? It makes me at least think about my life in so much more depth... I write lyrics 90% better drunk... I use alot of lyrics in my songs i can't remember writing lol :evil:[/QUOTE]
I'd be inclined to agree with you, but I have no clue. I'm no poser or wannabe. i'm 16 and I hate alcohol and drugs so i'll just take your word for it :thumb:

[QUOTE=metal_milita]I'd be inclined to agree with you, but I have no clue. I'm no poser or wannabe. i'm 16 and I hate alcohol and drugs so i'll just take your word for it :thumb:[/QUOTE]

In all fairness it would make logical sense, I mean, Kirk was suffering drug abuse in load, and especially reload, look at the guitaring in them, they are not as in your face i find, Its almost if he has turned the guitar down below everyone, specially on Reload... This is in comparison to earlier albums..
Also now jaymes has cleaned up the beer and drugs more, look what has happened to lyrics...

To be honest it seems most of the bands from that era that were any good were the drunk, drugged bands.... To an extent

[QUOTE=LarsAgi007]In all fairness it would make logical sense, I mean, Kirk was suffering drug abuse in load, and [B]especially reload, look at the guitaring in them, they are not as in your face i find, Its almost if he has turned the guitar down below everyone, specially on Reload[/B]... This is in comparison to earlier albums..
Also now jaymes has cleaned up the beer and drugs more, look what has happened to lyrics...

To be honest it seems most of the bands from that era that were any good were the drunk, drugged bands.... To an extent[/QUOTE]
if thats telling me what I think it is, that would be contradicting your point that drugs and alcohol help music?
Rest makes perfect sense