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Nepenthe 06-10-2007 10:32 PM

Ugh dude, please don't tell me you're into that ****? I did that dance for like 2 months, and I'm glad to say I'll never do it again.

bucket 06-10-2007 10:35 PM

[QUOTE=Kage;14815630]Happy albums suck.[/QUOTE]

(we're talking about Random Avenger, right?)

It's really not that happy, upbeat at times, but I never get the sudden urge to shout "SUNSHINE PUPPY BLAST!!!!!!!!!" when I listen to it.

Get that dang album. Immediately.

Dr. Jake Destructo 06-10-2007 11:13 PM

Nah I've done it a little bit over the spring, but I haven't done it in a month or so...It's really lame, one of my mormon homies who's going on his mission soon is all into it, it's funny. He goes through a teener at least like once a week.

Nepenthe 06-10-2007 11:16 PM

Aw dude, don't mess with the ****. It's not worth it. Come down is ****ing horrible, if you're doing it alot the ****'s expensive, makes you a tweeker *** mother****er, and it doesn't even do much. I still feel the effects of my little binge. Just not worth it. I've seen too many of my friends become thieves and bullshitters because of it.

Dr. Jake Destructo 06-10-2007 11:18 PM

I'd be into it if it wasn't like 20 bucks for even a remote amount of fun. But yeah, the comedown is the most insane mind**** ever. It was like being Franz Kafka. All depressed and genius and incoherent at the same time.

Txus 06-10-2007 11:20 PM

Kafka was da shiznit.

Coke isn't. Don't do that **** man :(

Nepenthe 06-10-2007 11:23 PM

My comedowns weren't like all depressive or make me pissy or anything, my mind would just go completely blank. I'd be at a party or something, and I'd be all cool and **** for 45 minutes, and then I'd come down and just like sit there and say nothing until I'd sneak off to do 2 or 3 more lines. I just hate the way it turns perfectly normal people into little fiends (myself included).

I mean, I can get a ball for $50 (I've got mad connects for like, everything), but even with that, I just don't want to mess with the ****. Money ain't a thang. I was even slangin the **** for a while with my usual weed, but even just selling the **** turns you into a ****in sheisty *** bitch.

Lunch 06-11-2007 12:52 AM

Yea man the YAYO is no good

A lot of "Whatever happened to those kids" got into coke and then ****ed up

Nepenthe 06-11-2007 12:54 AM

That's the truth.

I like the MIAoooooo like thirty times better than it's product yayoooooo

Nepenthe 06-13-2007 11:17 AM

Well the new Pelican isn't as bad as I was expecting it to be. It's pretty good. I miss Australasia though.

Txus 06-13-2007 11:22 AM

Bliss In Concrete is a wonderful song.

Nepenthe 06-13-2007 11:52 AM

None of it is wonderful, it's all pretty good, but they're becoming kind of generic. Australasia was lightyears better than this.

Far From Fields is the only song I'd call wonderful. It was really good.

Txus 06-13-2007 12:24 PM

Meh, I love the album and everything they've done. Australsia is definitely their best effort.

Nepenthe 06-13-2007 12:29 PM

They've just become a typical post metal band with these past two releases. It blows.

Kage 06-13-2007 01:44 PM

No, I disagree, I think Australasia helped define what a typical post metal band even is, and they changed it up quite a bit on Fire and on this album they're hardly even post metal at all. Post metal is generally about slow evolution, build and release, and this album is basically just sludgy riff after rifff.

Nepenthe 06-13-2007 01:47 PM

Whaaat? This album completely got rid of all of their badass sludgy riffs, and started doing the whole 'clean riff - building electric riff - big electric riff' thing, which is what I consider to be genric post metal.

Kage 06-13-2007 01:49 PM

But they never give the songs any time to develop like post metal is "supposed" to. It's like they start building something up and then they just switch into another riff rather than letting it evolve.

There's still a little bit of the massive builds, like in track 2 when everyone drops out and the distorted bass starts it up.

Nepenthe 06-13-2007 02:02 PM

Eh I don't know, it just seems like they are streamlining their sound more and more with each album.

Kage 06-13-2007 02:18 PM

Whatever the case, I thoroughly enjoy listening to the new album, so I'm happy. I am skeptical of their next release, though.

I just can't wait to see them live behind these songs, that will be great.

Dr. Jake Destructo 06-13-2007 05:56 PM

Yeah it's like they're trying to do the generic crescendo thing, but can't grasp the flow of it.

Nepenthe 06-14-2007 02:22 PM

Woah Jesu's new EP is the best thing they've ever put out.

Nevermind I still like Silver more.

Dr. Jake Destructo 06-14-2007 05:18 PM

Oh so I listened to the new Pelican again and they still fail. I do enjoy their drummer though, he's got some really unique (not that interesting, just unique) rhythms. The guitarwork shines in certain places, but overall, I am not typically that impressed or intrigued by them. My favorite song off the album is Winds With Hands. I guess they should just become a folk band or something.

Nepenthe 06-14-2007 05:19 PM

The folkish guitar parts are the only thing that makes Far From Fields as good as it is. Australasia is still killer, but they've just gone down the path of tired and generic.

TojesDolan 06-14-2007 05:20 PM

Neurisican bands in general are gay.

Dr. Jake Destructo 06-14-2007 05:21 PM

What was that?

Kage 06-14-2007 05:22 PM

Not really, especially not the three referred to in the term itself.

Neur(osis)is(is)(pel)ican

Nepenthe 06-14-2007 05:22 PM

It's ok, Tojes just wanted to sound smart.

TojesDolan 06-14-2007 05:24 PM

The three are OK but the other bands are crap.

And no Quorthance, I was just eager to use the word.

Dr. Jake Destructo 06-14-2007 05:24 PM

Oh I'm only familar with NeurISIS, which is gay, i much prefer Neurisican.

Actually if I start a post rock band, that would be a good name. I'll make it hella generic and/or a complete ripoff.

Kage 06-14-2007 05:25 PM

I first learned that term from an interview with Toby Driver.

Dr. Jake Destructo 06-14-2007 05:34 PM

Haha that's awesome. I've probably read it, but I bet I was like "oh he's just being pretentious, that's why I don't know what that means."

TojesDolan 06-14-2007 05:36 PM

[QUOTE=Kage;14834633]I first learned that term from an interview with Toby Driver.[/QUOTE]
progarchives.com

:h5:

Anyway, Toby Driver would hate you Jake. :[

Kage 06-14-2007 05:37 PM

Yeah, he was asked about bands Kayo Dot was touring with and he said something to the effect of, "Mostly we've been paired with a bunch of lame Neurisican bands."

I like a lot of Neurisican bands but I can't say they're all that muiscally exciting anymore. Just good to scratch that certain itch.

Dr. Jake Destructo 06-14-2007 06:06 PM

Yeah so speaking of non Neurisican post rock bands, let us decide: Is Pirate Ship Quintet generic or not?

Nepenthe 06-14-2007 06:14 PM

They rip off Lift Your Skinny Fists pretty bad. They're awesome as **** though. I think I've posted this, but this is the only way to listen to Pirate Ship Quintet:

[url]http://epiccockpunching.ytmnd.com/[/url]

Dr. Jake Destructo 06-14-2007 06:17 PM

I think a lot of people nowadays are associating crescendos with generic now. I mean sure there are tons of post rock bands using the same formula, but there are also many of those bands that, on the individual scale, have great musicians that right awesome parts. PSQ is one of those bands. The string player has some very unique melodies, and their trumpet player achieves brilliant tone and has very good dynamic control. Their guitarist does a lot of typical effect-driven stuff, but he's definitely not a weak link.

Nepenthe 06-14-2007 06:23 PM

I don't really base my generic calling on structure, just sound. Like how Kage says Pelican isn't generic because they don't follow the build up structure anymore, I say they are because they just play the same clean riffs followed by the same metal riffs that all post metal bands are doing these days, where back on Australasia they played sludgy riffs with a fairly unique identity.

PSQ sounds a whole hell of a lot like GYBE on Skinny Fists, but there aren't a ton of bands that do that sound correctly. So, they're not very generic, but they're definitely not doing anything completely new. But the music is beautiful and moving, so I will always love it. The trumpets are the best part.

Kage 06-14-2007 10:38 PM

This is the first time I've heard them and it sounds awesome! Anyone have any uploads?

Like Anthony said the trumpets ****ing kill.

Nepenthe 06-14-2007 10:46 PM

I will tomorrow night.

Kage 06-14-2007 11:12 PM

Awesome.


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