[QUOTE=Dand]It seems to me that the people who really like Trivium believe that their live show is amazing and flawless, while people who dislike, or just don't really care about them, think that they are really bad.

Just my observation.[/QUOTE]



Good observation.

Ok to settle this whole live argument. The truth is, if your a Trivium fan, you'll find there live show amazing full stop. If your not a Trivium fan, but you do not dislike them because they appear in Kerrang! every week then you'll find their live show energetic and generally very good even though you don't know the songs. If your one of those people who hate Trivium because they appear in Kerrang! every week, then your determined to hate their liveshow...even iif you secretly enjoyed it...which you would!

[QUOTE=Dand]It seems to me that the people who really like Trivium believe that their live show is amazing and flawless, while people who dislike, or just don't really care about them, think that they are really bad.

Just my observation.[/QUOTE]
I think that may be because they are very confident on stage, which some may see as arrogance.
Also the majority fans usually enjoy the whole live experience (singing along, headbanging, moshing etc), where as others will probably just be paying attention to the music, and picking up on any flaws.

I like Trivium, but I still think they are pretty bad live. I mean if you're gonna be arrogant, then atleast have something to back it up with. With Heafy going "WE ARE F[size=2]UC[/SIZE]KING REAL THRASH METAL" it gets really annoying. Corey makes mistakes, then just does a squeal to make it seem like he didn't. Also, they should atleast keep time they rush so bad a lot.

[QUOTE=nowitzki]I think that may be because they are very confident on stage, which some may see as arrogance.
[B]Also the majority fans usually enjoy the whole live experience (singing along, headbanging, moshing etc), where as others will probably just be paying attention to the music, and picking up on any flaws.[/QUOTE][/B]

I agree, you should go to concerts to do the head banging etc., not just stand there and listen to the music. You will enjoy the concert much more if you get into it, and you won't notice every little mistake. Why don't you all try to get up on stage in front of thousands of ppl and not make a few mistakes. A few mistakes is normal for any band that hasn't been around that long.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nk9dONe_h_I&search=trivium%20live[/url]

For all of you sippin on the hatorade :) you must admit they are fairly sound instrumentally. I do hate it when he cuts out verses because he is away from the mic.
Also where is all the talk of arrogance comming from I want examples before I shall be swayed!

Theres plenty of example of Matt's arrogance out there :p
But i dont mind that: the kids got confidence and good on him :)

[QUOTE=Britton]I hope to god so.[/QUOTE]

:lol: don't we all?

*bump*

Does anyone know if any of the Trivium singles were released in Australia or do we suck?

[QUOTE=Eleventeen]:lol: don't we all?[/QUOTE]



We do


I'm not sure if they put out any singles in australia...you might check their website. or the billboard


We suck...they never play them in S.A but we are a smaller market. I know they play them in austin and houston

Examples of Heafy's arrogance:
Comments on Triviums new release "The Crusade"
"...and then 11 ridiculously technical thrash songs,"

On why he thinks Dimebag's widow wanted to hang out with Trivium,
"When she first saw us play, she hadn't heard a live tone like that or seen a crowd reaction like that since the Vulgar Display of Power Days"

At any concert in which Heafy is present and playing,
"We are fu[size=2]ck[/size]ing true thrash metal!"

[QUOTE=Drunken Viking]Examples of Heafy's arrogance:
Comments on Triviums new release "The Crusade"
"...and then 11 ridiculously technical thrash songs,"

[B]On why he thinks Dimebag's widow wanted to hang out with Trivium,
"When she first saw us play, she hadn't heard a live tone like that or seen a crowd reaction like that since the Vulgar Display of Power Days"[/B]

At any concert in which Heafy is present and playing,
"We are fu[size=2]ck[/size]ing true thrash metal!"[/QUOTE]

That is an oversized load of bullsh1t. There is no way their live tone was as bada$$ as Pantera's, and no way their crowds or fans are nearly as large in #. Also, if some people think they suck live, that must mean they aren't as good as Pantera live.

And yes, that is perfectly normal for a famous 20 year old to be over confident.

There's a difference between overconfidence, and plain arrogance.

[QUOTE=lamb_of_goddrummer]That is an oversized load of bullsh1t. There is no way their live tone was as bada$$ as Pantera's, and no way their crowds or fans are nearly as large in #. Also, if some people think they suck live, that must mean they aren't as good as Pantera live.

And yes, that is perfectly normal for a famous 20 year old to be over confident.[/QUOTE]




So ****ing what? some peole say Pantera sucked live who gives a flying **** what other people say?


I know I sure as hell don't.

And for the record Triviums live tone is crushing! Now I never saw Pantera live (in person) but I can tell you Trivium kicks *** live. And the fans that were un-able to mosh at trivium were frickin brutal

I'm actually getting into this band a lot, they are [b]good[/b] but not as good as everyone makes them out to be.

[QUOTE=lamb_of_goddrummer]That is an oversized load of bullsh1t. There is no way their live tone was as bada$$ as Pantera's, and no way their crowds or fans are nearly as large in #. Also, if some people think they suck live, that must mean they aren't as good as Pantera live.[/QUOTE]
Hmm, but its hard to judge what Heafy meant by that comment, perhaps Dime's wife had personally said to them something to that effect, rather than Heafy just assuming it.

[QUOTE=nowitzki]Hmm, but its hard to judge what Heafy meant by that comment, perhaps Dime's wife had personally said to them something to that effect, rather than Heafy just assuming it.[/QUOTE]

You're correct, Drunken Viking wrote it out wrong.

In the April 2006 Guitar World magazine, on page 66, it says:

"She said that when she first saw us play, she hadn't heard a live tone like that or seen a crown reaction like that since the [i]Vulgar Display of Power[/i] days."


On another note, has anyone seen that Jan 2006 Young Guitar DVD with Trivium on it??

Trivium is pretty good, but I like Matt Heafy in Capharnaum more.

[QUOTE=MRDuCran]You're correct, Drunken Viking wrote it out wrong.

In the April 2006 Guitar World magazine, on page 66, it says:

"She said that when she first saw us play, she hadn't heard a live tone like that or seen a crown reaction like that since the [i]Vulgar Display of Power[/i] days."


On another note, has anyone seen that Jan 2006 Young Guitar DVD with Trivium on it??[/QUOTE]
i think i saw a short clip (not sure if it was young guitar)
i can get a link if you want, but im sure its not the whole dvd, just a short clip od it

Was writing a long reply to Britton's post, but my computer restarted, so I decided fuk it after hearing that Dimebag's wife said that to Heafy.

I don't want to affend any Dimebag fans in here by going against what his wife thinks, and sure as hell don't want to affend Dimebag(in the sense that he is watching over us).

[QUOTE=MRDuCran]You're correct, Drunken Viking wrote it out wrong.

In the April 2006 Guitar World magazine, on page 66, it says:

"She said that when she first saw us play, she hadn't heard a live tone like that or seen a crown reaction like that since the [i]Vulgar Display of Power[/i] days."


On another note, has anyone seen that Jan 2006 Young Guitar DVD with Trivium on it??[/QUOTE]
Oh whoops, I guess I was mistaken. When the magazine said Matt Heafy thinks he knows it kinda through me off. My bad.

these guys are awful

[QUOTE=Forlorn Hope]i think i saw a short clip (not sure if it was young guitar)
i can get a link if you want, but im sure its not the whole dvd, just a short clip od it[/QUOTE]

Oh no it's fine, I have the DVD, but I've never seen anyone mention it so I was just going to ask about opinions on it etc.

[QUOTE=FolkVikingFan]these guys are awful[/QUOTE]


OMG go away!


Guys. I was there in S.A when she introduced her-self to corey. It was behind the white rabbit. They were packing there stuff. I had just said "Yo to Alexi" and I was walking over to where my brother and mom said they would meet me. When I saw matt and corey. Matt got pulled away so I followed him and got his autograph. then I came back and corey was talking to this lady that kept praising Triviums live sound and saying how cool the fans were. I didn't really know who she was ti'll a month or so later.

ive been able to sneak a preview of some of the crusade recordings. Its absolutely insane. Best metal album since puppets.

[QUOTE=Trivium]ive been able to sneak a preview of some of the crusade recordings. Its absolutely insane. Best metal album since puppets.[/QUOTE]

Really, maybe you should send me some of the songs. Is that possible?

haha, id get sued, and lose my relationship with the band and their managment and what not.

Its ascendancy, except you can hear an almost dream theater esque virtuosity as their skills on their instruments have improved immensly. The vocals as you know include very little screaming, and are in a more hetfield style.

This album is real metal, and personally I think the crusade will bring a complete end to the metalcore genre. Hopefully it can revive metal from the 80's. Plus this is really only their 3rd album, and I can tell they have a lot left in them.

But they werent completely mastered or anything, but the album will hopefully drop in september, before they go on tour with maiden.

[QUOTE]Hopefully it can revive metal from the 80's[/QUOTE]

God I hope not.

But still, sounds good from your description.

[QUOTE=deathscreamingsheep]God I hope not.

But still, sounds good from your description.[/QUOTE]

the good ****

if I see any band wearing spandex ever again ill shoot them

[QUOTE=Trivium]haha, id get sued, and lose my relationship with the band and their managment and what not.

Its ascendancy, except you can hear an almost [B]dream theater esque virtuosity[/B] as their skills on their instruments have improved immensly. The vocals as you know include very little screaming, and are in a more hetfield style.

This album is real metal, and personally I think the crusade will bring a complete end to the metalcore genre. Hopefully it can revive metal from the 80's. Plus this is really only their 3rd album, and I can tell they have a lot left in them.

But they werent completely mastered or anything, but the album will hopefully drop in september, before they go on tour with maiden.[/QUOTE]

Ok, I have a problem with that part. I may come out as a DT fanboy (which I probably am) ,but you can't drop statements like that without being 10000% sure to back it up without a relative point of view. It seems to me that you just tought of a really technical band and just threw their name in there in comparison because a lot of people think they are good. I can almost guarantee that while they may have gotten (and probably have) much better with their instruments they will be no where close to DT. Also comparing them is like comparing apples and a kick in the nuts...two totally different things.

Also out of curioucity I have to ask, what is your relationship with the band and management?

[QUOTE=Trivium]haha, id get sued, and lose my relationship with the band and their managment and what not.

Its ascendancy, except you can hear an almost dream theater esque virtuosity as their skills on their instruments have improved immensly. The vocals as you know include very little screaming, and are in a more hetfield style.

This album is real metal, and personally I think the crusade will bring a complete end to the metalcore genre. Hopefully it can revive metal from the 80's. Plus this is really only their 3rd album, and I can tell they have a lot left in them.

But they werent completely mastered or anything, but the album will hopefully drop in september, before they go on tour with maiden.[/QUOTE]

Lol, thought I would try, I'm anxious to see what their new sound is like without the screaming. I'll take you're word for it then if it is that badass, I do like Metallica(not their new stuff, only old). Yeah, what is your relationship with the band and management?

[QUOTE=Trivium]haha, id get sued, and lose my relationship with the band and their managment and what not.

Its ascendancy, except you can hear an almost [B]dream theater esque virtuosity[/B] as their skills on their instruments have improved immensly. The vocals as you know include very little screaming, and are in a more hetfield style.

This album is real metal, and personally I think the crusade will bring a complete end to the metalcore genre. Hopefully it can revive metal from the 80's. Plus this is really only their 3rd album, and I can tell they have a lot left in them.

But they werent completely mastered or anything, but the album will hopefully drop in september, before they go on tour with maiden.[/QUOTE]



so their gunna wank their instruments until they start to suck?

[QUOTE=Scuba_Steve]so their gunna wank their instruments until they start to suck?[/QUOTE]

lol.

I feel bad about that comment, i didn't even post anything postive with it.


I'm happy he'll be going the hetfield route, cause then he can probably sing the songs better live.

^ Or worse, judging by his "hetfield" singing that i've seen come out of his mouth. Still nothing a bit of auto-tune can't fix :smash:

[QUOTE=chorbalan]Ok, I have a problem with that part. I may come out as a DT fanboy (which I probably am) ,but you can't drop statements like that without being 10000% sure to back it up without a relative point of view. It seems to me that you just tought of a really technical band and just threw their name in there in comparison because a lot of people think they are good. I can almost guarantee that while they may have gotten (and probably have) much better with their instruments they will be no where close to DT. Also comparing them is like comparing apples and a kick in the nuts...two totally different things.

Also out of curioucity I have to ask, what is your relationship with the band and management?[/QUOTE]

uhm obviously they cant meet up with dream theater. Matt himself has said he's far far away from petruci. But their guitar/drum/bass skills have gotten so much better its insane.

and my relationship is I run a very popular fansite.

jesus, this really is good news. Trivium, your description of the new album is very encouraging. *exited*:)

Trivium, what kind of tone changes have you heard in your "sneak peeks"?

it still sounds very trivium, if you heard it youd have no doubt it was them. Its just, better.

I cannot wait to hear it.

"
So The Crusade doesn't come til October probably. Trivium just finished recording it within the last 2 weeks. Soooooooo.

Tonight my band played in downtown Orlando, and there to see see my band was Paolo from Trivium, and Matt Heafy's father who is also Trivium's manager. After my bands set, Matt's dad told me the new stuff is sounding amazing, and asked if I'd like to hear it. Of course, I wasn't going to tell him no!

So he, Paolo & I took a walk to their car and I got to listen to 6 songs off of The Crusade. Eventhough they were unmastered and ****, they sounded ****ing AMAZING!

The songs I got to listen to were: Anthem (We Are The Fire), To The Rats, Ignition, The Crusade, In Sadness We'll See Her and another one that I can't quite remember the name of. Began with a U.

To sum it up, The Crusade is ****ing jaw dropping! I was in heaven every second I was listening to the new stuff. The band improved so much on this new album.

Matt's vocals are sooooo ****ing good. Didn't hear 1 scream, and to be honest, I'm completely fine with that now. I was disappointed a little bit when I found out he wouldn't be screaming, but the vocals on this are incredible. A mix of Hetfield like vocals, with Heafy's style of singing on songs like Gunshot & Dying In Your Arms.

The guitars are ****ing rediculous on this album. Solo after solo, riff after riff, and finally you can pick yourself up off the floor. Cause you will get knocked the **** out!

Drums & bass sound incredible too. Everything about the songs were great!

Hands down, best album of 2006. And I only heard 6 songs so far! I can't wait!"

another one of my friends who heard it