[QUOTE=Bernie812]so im looking for another crash to add, i have 16"/18" zildjian avedis medium crashes, and a wuhan 10" splash with sbian aax 13" hats... im looking for another crash to add, something brighter than my avedis', but not so bright it sticks out like a sore thumb... any ideas? im not sure what size to go with, or brand...[/QUOTE]

what about a paiste dimensions raw medium crash, any size'd fit in well with your setup i think

I play rock/progressive/punk and actually I never saw a splash in a tab..... but I want one anyway!What about stands, can you put a splash on a normal stand????

Of course you can physically. It's probably not best to though, the cymbal's too small really, you'll just end up with a forest of cymbal stands. It'll be a lot easier and probably cheaper to get it its own cymbal attachment. Tama CA30E, Pearl CH70, Gibraltar SCGCA are three I can think of right now, among others. Personally I'd go with the Tama model, that's what I use.

myself, i'd reccomend a boom arm and grabber clamp....a little more flexible than those grabber arms

[QUOTE=Nightmar3]progressive/punk[/QUOTE]

And this mixes how?

I'd like some hats with a real nice "chick" while closed. Preferably in the Zildjian line...thanks!

Why Zildjian? What if there was a Sabian or Istanbul cymbal that sounded more like what you're looking for than any Zildjian cymbal?

[QUOTE=Seafroggys]Why Zildjian? What if there was a Sabian or Istanbul cymbal that sounded more like what you're looking for than any Zildjian cymbal?[/QUOTE] That would be fine with me...I just prefer zildjian but will be fine with buying a pair of Sabian, Paiste, Meinl, etc...hats....I said I would prefer it to be in the Zildjian line...not that it had to be.

i don't know much about hats, but you might want to look at 13" models

and why not a Zildjian Cymbal? Maybe they are the cheapest/most available in his area? Or maybe he wants a Zildjian cymbal because he has a soft spot.

Nothing wrong with sugesting Zildjian alternatives but don't come in here and be a dick about it.

Onto cymbals: Check out A Mastersounds, A Quickbeats, A Newbeats, K Mastersound (for a darker sound), A Custom Mastersound.

Something should be what your looking for. Go into a store and try some out against eachother. If they don't have it instock, ask if they could order it for you.

[QUOTE=Rilez]I'd like some hats with a real nice "chick" while closed. Preferably in the Zildjian line...thanks![/QUOTE]

Quick Beats

[QUOTE=Seafroggys]And this mixes how?[/QUOTE]

Some progressive and some punk songs!!! :thumb:

[QUOTE=Rilez]I'd like some hats with a real nice "chick" while closed. Preferably in the Zildjian line...thanks![/QUOTE]

Zildjian 14" Z Custom Master Sound

Zildjian 14" K Mastersounds...


EW Z CUSTOM MASTERSOUND?! YOU MAD?!

I have Z Custom Mastersounds, and they sound pretty good to me. Nice and bright. I don't see why people hate Z Customs so much.

[QUOTE=DruMMeR_BoY14]and why not a Zildjian Cymbal? Maybe they are the cheapest/most available in his area? Or maybe he wants a Zildjian cymbal because he has a soft spot.

Nothing wrong with sugesting Zildjian alternatives but don't come in here and be a dick about it.[/QUOTE]

I was hardly being a dick. Being a dick would be like "You suck *** for liking Zildjian, everyone else is much better." You need to understand that I've been here awhile, and I found the longer I'm in an online community, the more cynical I get, because I was assuming he was a brand whore which I'm tired of that mentality.

[QUOTE=DruMMeR_BoY14]Onto cymbals: Check out A Mastersounds, A Quickbeats, A Newbeats, K Mastersound (for a darker sound), A Custom Mastersound.[/QUOTE]

Good job at listing the entire Zildjian hi-hat database :thumb:

[QUOTE=DruMMeR_BoY14]
Nothing wrong with sugesting Zildjian alternatives but don't come in here and be a dick about it.
[/QUOTE]


he wasnt being a dick. he was just stating that WHAT IF there was another cymbal from a different company that he liked better. it was basically a "look at other brands and see if you like them" comment.

Ok, this could get confusing...

I'm looking for a trashy crash (china, yeah, but VERY specific). Zildjian Oriental is too trashy for me, so something less trashy. I'm looking into the A custom and K Custom Dark China lines. These more crashy than trashy?
Would a Crash of Doom be more suitable for what I want? I want the trashy sound of either a china or Crash of Doom, but a really trashy china doesn't appeal to me.

[QUOTE=3_times_round]Ok, this could get confusing...

I'm looking for a trashy crash (china, yeah, but VERY specific). Zildjian Oriental is too trashy for me, so something less trashy. I'm looking into the A custom and K Custom Dark China lines. These more crashy than trashy?
Would a Crash of Doom be more suitable for what I want? I want the trashy sound of either a china or Crash of Doom, but a really trashy china doesn't appeal to me.[/QUOTE]

I can't help you out too much but i'll try. You should look into some wuhan crashes because I believe they have some trash to them, the trads have more a bit more trashy than the s series. Other than that I would just try testing out cymbals at your local shop, especially because you're looking for a very specific sound.

im looking for good priced and good cymbals for jazz

[QUOTE=3_times_round]Ok, this could get confusing...

I'm looking for a trashy crash (china, yeah, but VERY specific). Zildjian Oriental is too trashy for me, so something less trashy. I'm looking into the A custom and K Custom Dark China lines. These more crashy than trashy?
Would a Crash of Doom be more suitable for what I want? I want the trashy sound of either a china or Crash of Doom, but a really trashy china doesn't appeal to me.[/QUOTE]

a trashy crash? Sabian HHXtreme crash

[quote]im looking for good priced and good cymbals for jazz[/quote]

the thinner Paiste Innovations perhaps? and the AA Raw ride....very nice for a hot jazzy tone.

Manhatten Jazz.. omg, wow.. amazing
Any K

I didnt see the price thing;)

yeah, the price on an HHX ride is a bit much.....the AA raw though...thats a sweet *** ride for jazz though...dry, but lively at the same time.

I didnt feel like cluttering up the with another thread. But I've always really liked the sound of Tucker Rule's hats from Thursday. I know he uses Sabian hats, not sure which though. I might be interested in getting a pair if I try them out.

From the understanding in a car crash clip, they are AA, not sure which hat, i think they might be rock but not 100% sure.

There are pictures of him and he's using Zildjian A's, and those are about 2003-2004.

[QUOTE=DruMMeR_BoY14]From the understanding in a car crash clip, they are AA, not sure which hat, i think they might be rock but not 100% sure.

There are pictures of him and he's using Zildjian A's, and those are about 2003-2004.[/QUOTE]

Alright, I was basically going out the sounds on Full Collapse. So I'll look into some Sabian AA hats. Or will there be other hats that will offer me a similar sound?

im looking for a heavy, full, semi bright crash that can handle my hard hitting. i play hardcore/ metal and everything else. my choices are the sabian 20" AA metal crash and the paiste rude 20" crash/ride. which one is better and do you you guys have any other suggestions?
thanks

[QUOTE=Sinai Beach]im looking for a heavy, full, semi bright crash that can handle my hard hitting. i play hardcore/ metal and everything else. my choices are the sabian 20" AA metal crash and the paiste 20" crash/ride. which one is better and do you you guys have any other suggestions?
thanks[/QUOTE]


id go with an AA rock crash.

Meh, I'd go with a Medium AA instead of the Rock. I find the medium plenty heavy, where if you ever grow out of....I mean go into other genres, you'll still have the versatility to play lightly and with dynamics.

[QUOTE=Seafroggys]Meh, I'd go with a Medium AA instead of the Rock. I find the medium plenty heavy, where if you ever grow out of....I mean go into other genres, you'll still have the versatility to play lightly and with dynamics.[/QUOTE]

true. i was gonna say medium but i didnt wanna go against his whole super heavy thing. the rock is medium heavy which is too heavy but tahst what he wanted.

Does anyone here have a 16 or 18" Paiste New Signature 'Dark Energy' Crash? Im looking to buy one and I'd like any input on them.

Thanks

yes.

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Im looking for a Ride. I play mostly hard rock, some metal. Rarely soft things, but sometimes. Anyone have a suggestion for me? Any brand.

^ Probably a Sabian AA medium ride? Meh, I don't know though. Don't take cymbal advice from me. :)


Anyways, how are Sabian AAX-Xcelerator hi-hats? I've never played them yet, but I hear they're good.
I currently have B8s which I need to upgrade. I play with a metal band, but I don't want cymbals that will ONLY be good for metal because when at home I play alot of styles and I want something versatile.

And whatever get, I think I've already decided the size: 13".

go with the AAX Stages for versatility then....the X-cellerators are pretty much like Mastersounds....that, and i think they only come in 14" right now...

[QUOTE=slash_bmxer09]Im looking for a Ride. I play mostly hard rock, some metal. Rarely soft things, but sometimes. Anyone have a suggestion for me? Any brand.[/QUOTE]

Sabian Hand Hammered Raw Bell Dry Ride.

I'm looking for a ride that is really bright (high pitched?) and doesn't ring for a long time any brand

Sabian PRO dry Ride.

Does that even exist?

The regular PRO ride (20") would work very well for that situation. It's probably the best intermediate-level ride I've ever played.

Would an A Earth Ride work as well?