hey
ive grown up listenen to dream theater
and i personaly think they kick ***
anyone who thinks any of the DT musicians should leave
should go jump of a cliff or sumptin. the only thing i could agree with
is more BASS. way more. u can hear some bass in images and words but thats about all. the solo on learning to live at about 10:03 minutes into the song is cool.
if u listen close you can hear it and he has talent.
i think "pull me under" is my favorite song out of all of em

Does anyone else think that "These Walls" is too generic? It just doesn't seem to be that good to me.

[QUOTE=The Depressed]MWAHHAHAHAA!!

6 days, 3 gigs, 2 bands, one venue!

Hammersmith Apollo, London in October -

19th - Steve Vai
24th - Dream Theater
25th - Dream Theater with a classic album as the second set

*sploogesploogesploogesploogesplooge*[/QUOTE]
where and when can i get a ticket for the DT hammersmith show?

Great band
 

Dream Theater are some of the most talented people I've heard. I own Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, Scenes From a Memory, Once In a LiveTime, and Octavarium. Those are the most impressive pieces of music I have ever heard. I wish they'd let John Myung show what he can though... it sucks that he doesn't get enough credit because he really is a good bassist.

Great band... they always seem to put something out that's worth listening to.

just wondering, how many bpm can john pertucci play?

I bet he can play at least 20 notes per second, I know someone who can play 16.

I just bought the Octavarium the other day and I have to say wow! :amaze: I'm so in love with the title track! Especially that little acoustic lick around 17:50. I'm still undecided on the rest of the songs, but that one song is enough for me to like this album. I'll have to listen to it a few more times before I decide on the other songs.

[QUOTE=Rotak]Dream Theater are some of the most talented people I've heard. I own Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, Scenes From a Memory, Once In a LiveTime, and Octavarium. Those are the most impressive pieces of music I have ever heard. I wish they'd let John Myung show what he can though... it sucks that he doesn't get enough credit because he really is a good bassist.

[/QUOTE]

Listen to Octavarium again and pay attention to the bass throughout it. Myung is higher in the mix, and has several cool grooves throughout the album. Still not the focus of the music like Petrucci and Rudess, but this is definetly a good album for Myung.

I can't stop listening to "These Walls". It's a poppy song, but the chorus is so catchy and I absolutely love the ending, especially when JR throws in the strings. Just an awesome song all around.

When all the people like John Petrucci and Mike Portnoy are soloing, what does the singer do?

He goes backstage.

[QUOTE=PIGS(1 different one)]I bet he can play at least 20 notes per second, I know someone who can play 16.[/QUOTE]
In the "As I Am" solo, he plays something like 32 notes in a bar, which is probably around 24 notes a second. he also picks all the notes, with no hammer-ons or tapping, which is much more impressive. any joker and play 20 notes a second tapping with both hands.

i havent been to the store to by Octavarium yet, but i plan on buying it tomorrow. until then, i downloaded all the tracks on limewire, however, i dont think that any of them are labelled right. they all sounds like rad songs, but i think its wrong. i read somewhere that panic attack is their fastest song so far, yet its not like that on my computer, whereas the root of all evil is very fast. if anyone could give me a brief description of the songs, that would be awesome. thanks in advance.

Im thinking of going to see Dream Theater and Megadeth on the Gigantour this summer but I have a couple of questions before I buy any tickets. First of all, who is headlining? Im not really much of a Megadeth fan and Im not sure how long I would want to sit through **** I dont like to hear the REAL music. Secondly, do you think DT will be playing mostly stuff from Octavarium (which from what Ive heard so far is pretty ****in good) or do you think they will play more of their classics? If any of you have seen them on this tour already I would really love to hear what you thought of them.

DT usually play a good chunk of the album they're touring for, and throw in a few classics as well

I really wanna go to both the shows in London, its just a tricky place for me to get to which is annoying, and I'd have to stay somewhere overnight for the 2nd show.
The classic album cover should be interesting, buts its kind of hit or miss - if its an album you like it will be amazing, if its an album you don't like it may be a little boring

[QUOTE=royman2001]He goes backstage.[/QUOTE]

or he stands on stage shaking his maracas. i don't know why though, considering you can never even hear them. although i do have a video from the 6DOIT tour where he has his own little raised platform like Jordan, with some bongos and a table for his various percussion instruments. but he does usually go backstage during the longer instrumental sections.

There's only a handful of frontmen who can keep the crowd entertained during instrumental sections anyway (e.g. Bruce Dickinson, Freddie Mercury), and those bands dont have 10 minute plus instrumentals

I really like James LaBrie as a front man.
but I don't really think it's up to the frontman to keep the crowd going during instrumental sections, the instruments take care of that.
and if the instruments can't captured the attention of the crowd, there is something wrong with the songwritingstyle of the band.

I don't think anyone will get bored when DT plays stream of conciousness live ;)

Wow, I just realised that Dream Theater were playing London! Does anyone know if they will stick in a Manchester date, or are these shows all they are going to play in UK? I really want to see them again, but I'm not sure if I will be able to get time of school and if my friends will be able to get time off work/school to go away (we're from Edinburgh, expensive trip for 15/16 year olds).

I'm definately going though, even if I'm on my own. They better play Octavarium (the song) in it's entirity, which is now officially my favourite Dream Theater song ever.

I just booked my ticket for London on the 25th of October. That's the second night, where they play a classic album in it's entirety. :) It's all seating though, and as far as I know it's first-come-first-served, so I don't know where I'll be sitting.

[QUOTE=azathoth]Wow, I just realised that Dream Theater were playing London! Does anyone know if they will stick in a Manchester date, or are these shows all they are going to play in UK? [/QUOTE]
Mike has said that there will be a Manchester date, to be announced soon.

^excellent
All seater though, not too sure about that

[QUOTE=Distorted Vision]I just booked my ticket for London on the 25th of October. That's the second night, where they play a classic album in it's entirety. :) It's all seating though, and as far as I know it's first-come-first-served, so I don't know where I'll be sitting.[/QUOTE]


wohoo

10-11 oktober DT is in Holland, and I'm going

thta's even before you :p, don't hate me.

[QUOTE=nowitzki]^excellent
All seater though, not too sure about that[/QUOTE]
I know, it seems a bit dodgy.

Seats = lower capacity= less revenue for the band.

I'm just glad I got tickets before they introduce that premium ticket thing they have in America.

[QUOTE=Distorted Vision]I just booked my ticket for London on the 25th of October. That's the second night, where they play a classic album in it's entirety. :) It's all seating though, and as far as I know it's first-come-first-served, so I don't know where I'll be sitting.[/QUOTE]

DUDE! Where/how did you get them? I cant find them anywhere :(

EDIT: Wait... found it... *feels stupid*

EDIT THE SECOND: What is nearer the stage and will give me the best view of the band? Dress circle or orchestra stalls?

Well I well and truly slaughtered this thread, didn't I?

I'm getting that curse letmypeopleho has in the Tool thread!

[QUOTE=Distorted Vision]Mike has said that there will be a Manchester date, to be announced soon.[/QUOTE]

D[b][i][/b][/i]amn, really shouldn't have ordered a ticket for London :lol:

It's 8th row, so maybe I can flog it to a mate for a decent price and go to the Manchester show

Edit - Orchestra stalls are nearer the stage

I got tickets to go see them play the Gigantour...

Should be pretty sweet, assuming the crowd cooperates...

Is it me or does track 4 on Octavarium have a chorus like some U2 song?

Six Degrees of Inner Tubulence is my favourite work of theirs. It has everything, heaviness (The Glass Prison), soft (Solitary Shell), and pretty much everything inbetween. It is great :)

I really like Another Day from Images and Words, 2 of the best DT solos in this song, in my opinion.

Also, anyone who has JP's Suspended Animation: Am I the only one who wishes he would put that music towards Dream Theater? :(
Jaws of Life has one of the best opening riffs (As does Tunnel Vision), in my opinion, it would work great with Dream Theater, I dunno, I just wish they would do another Glass Prison.

[QUOTE=Chu]Six Degrees of Inner Tubulence is my favourite work of theirs. It has everything, heaviness (The Glass Prison), soft (Solitary Shell), and pretty much everything inbetween. It is great :)

I really like Another Day from Images and Words, 2 of the best DT solos in this song, in my opinion.

Also, anyone who has JP's Suspended Animation: Am I the only one who wishes he would put that music towards Dream Theater? :(
Jaws of Life has one of the best opening riffs (As does Tunnel Vision), in my opinion, it would work great with Dream Theater, I dunno, I just wish they would do another Glass Prison.[/QUOTE]

The Glass Prison = best DT song I've ever heard.
I first put that on, and i was like...this is pretty cool. Then about 7 minutes through, i was like...ok, this is still good, but starting to bore me.

Then they have the solo thing towards the end, and i was like...holy crap. This guy can solo.

[QUOTE=Chu]
Also, anyone who has JP's Suspended Animation: Am I the only one who wishes he would put that music towards Dream Theater? :(
Jaws of Life has one of the best opening riffs (As does Tunnel Vision), in my opinion, it would work great with Dream Theater, I dunno, I just wish they would do another Glass Prison.[/QUOTE]
I should be getting a copy from a friend in a week... so I'll see.

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future]The Glass Prison = best DT song I've ever heard.
I first put that on, and i was like...this is pretty cool. Then about 7 minutes through, i was like...ok, this is still good, but starting to bore me.

Then they have the solo thing towards the end, and i was like...holy crap. This guy can solo.[/QUOTE]
I really love the work at 1:44 to 2:54 (Drums especially! That's the best display of drum discipline in my opinion). But I also reckon it's one of the songs James doesn't sound like a ***** on, I actually like his vocal work on TGP quite a bit.

Even thought it's ~14:00 it's one of my most listenned to songs. I think it's great :)

[QUOTE=MAthiAS]Is it me or does track 4 on Octavarium have a chorus like some U2 song?[/QUOTE]

Hehe... i thought the same thing man!!!

Yea, octovarium bored me a bit...i was expecting something much heavier like train of thought... they kinda backed off a bit into "falling into infinity territory". Train of thought was their best album as a whole by far.

You have to admit though, the song Octavarium rules beyond belief.

Everytime I get to the part in the title track that starts with "Innocent victims..." I get goosebumps. I love LaBrie's Mustaineish vocals there.

[quote]Train of thought was their best album as a whole by far.[/quote]
Definitely not.
[quote]You have to admit though, the song Octavarium rules beyond belief.[/quote]
Yeah, its a great song. I still prefer A Change of Seasons though. But its the best on the album.

[QUOTE=MAthiAS]Definitely not.[/QUOTE]
What would you say is their best?
I would say Train Of Thought... Or Scenes From A Memory.
But thats just me.

[quote]I just wish they would do another Glass Prison.[/quote]
This Dying Soul, The Root of All Evil..... :p

Best DT album is by far Awake.
Reasons: Scarred and A Mind Beside Itself

I'll take Scenes From A Memory as the best, but A Change of Seasons is definetly my favorite song.

i'd say images and words is better than awake. images and words had a ton of progressive elements in it, while awake just kicked [I]a[/I]ss and was heavy . . .