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DeusExMachina 01-16-2005 08:52 PM

[QUOTE=EADG]It's a wah plugged in backward with a rotating Leslie speaker.[/QUOTE]

How do you "plug a wah in backwards?" Like, if you plugged the input to output and output to input, wouldn't you just not get any noise?

Anyways, I don't know how that would work, but slide guitar with some effects super high up on the strings can simulate that kind of noise well enough. I can make R2D2 sounds with it!

Psychedelic 01-16-2005 09:06 PM

[QUOTE=6Stringer]I have just bought "Piper At the Gates of Dawn" this has quickly become my favorite Floyd album.[/QUOTE]

Dude, i have respect for you, I think that was floyd at best. well, you know there is other albums, but you have to admit piper at the gates of dawn is totally deifferent. The only floyd album close to it is saucerful of secrets, and I'll go as far as dark side of the moon, for psychedelic aspects.
Oh yeah, Waters rocks. I mean, he did write the nile song, didn't he?

I love psychedelia

Syd Barrett is psychedelia.


Peace, and love.

Kingofdudes 01-16-2005 09:08 PM

A Saucerful of Secrets was merely PF trying to copy Syd.

DeusExMachina 01-16-2005 09:18 PM

Yeah, everything after PATGOD and before Meddle was PF trying to copy Syd. They didn't really find their own voice until they wrote Echoes.

LedZeppelin173 01-16-2005 09:22 PM

man i love dark side of the moon. its got that whole phyco-rock element thru it. david gilmour certainly knows how to solo for sure. waters is a brilliant songwriter too.

im listening to time right now. awesome song....

6Stringer 01-16-2005 10:24 PM

I wish pyschadelic drugs didn't get the best of ol' Syd otherwise PF could have been better than they were, IMO.

Kingofdudes 01-16-2005 10:30 PM

[QUOTE=6Stringer]I wish pyschadelic drugs didn't get the best of ol' Syd otherwise PF could have been better than they were, IMO.[/QUOTE]

I beg to differ.

He never advanced as a musician or a songwriter, which is apparent with his solo albums. If he stayed at control of the steering wheel of Pink Floyd, they would have faded out with the rest of the late 60/early 70's Psychedelic Rock bands.

When Syd left the band, the band didnt know what to do. They were used to Syd coming up with all their material. But eventually after he left the group; Roger, Rick, Nick, and David were able to grow as musicians and songwriters, and eventually created their own masterpieces.

6Stringer 01-16-2005 10:48 PM

Hmmm.... Gilmour you bring up good points. I haven't heard anything from Syd's solo career. I should go give that a listen.

Dr. Jake Destructo 01-16-2005 10:54 PM

[QUOTE=DeusExMachina]How do you "plug a wah in backwards?" Like, if you plugged the input to output and output to input, wouldn't you just not get any noise?

Anyways, I don't know how that would work, but slide guitar with some effects super high up on the strings can simulate that kind of noise well enough. I can make R2D2 sounds with it![/QUOTE]

If any of you guys are RATM fans, or just fans of Morello in general, he uses this same effect on his solo to "Sleep Now in the Fire." I think it is just the input into the output jack, and it sounds really wierd.

DeusExMachina 01-16-2005 10:54 PM

[QUOTE=Gilmour]I beg to differ.

He never advanced as a musician or a songwriter, which is apparent with his solo albums. If he stayed at control of the steering wheel of Pink Floyd, they would have faded out with the rest of the late 60/early 70's Psychedelic Rock bands.

When Syd left the band, the band didnt know what to do. They were used to Syd coming up with all their material. But eventually after he left the group; Roger, Rick, Nick, and David were able to grow as musicians and songwriters, and eventually created their own masterpieces.[/QUOTE]

Agreed. Don't get me wrong, I love Barrett's work, but I've never understood why people think PATGOD is better than the later stuff.

Dr. Jake Destructo 01-16-2005 10:56 PM

[QUOTE=DeusExMachina]Agreed. Don't get me wrong, I love Barrett's work, but I've never understood why people think PATGOD is better than the later stuff.[/QUOTE]

I've always wondered what was so great about rap and Metallica. It's just opinions.

Kingofdudes 01-16-2005 11:13 PM

I like Syd's work as well (it sounded like I was dissing his stuff :-/)

DeusExMachina 01-16-2005 11:23 PM

Well yeah, of course its just opinions, and I don't mean to sound like I know whats good music or anything, but just in my mind the later stuff was better than the earlier stuff in every way. I like the early stuff a lot, I just prefer the 70's material.

Dr. Jake Destructo 01-17-2005 12:08 AM

Check out my new avatar. It moves. :D

So, let's talk about the Division Bell..again. I'd say my favorite song would be either Keep Talking or High Hopes. I also find it ironic that in the song "Lost for Words" Gilmouir says [I]f[/I]uck.

DeusExMachina 01-17-2005 10:26 AM

That is a pretty snazzy avatar.

A Great Day for Freedom and Coming Back To Life are also great tracks from The Division Bell. A lot of people say that lyrically The Division Bell is lacking, but I think it's got some really good lyrics on some of the tracks.

magicbus 01-17-2005 12:41 PM

I got the classic albums DSOTM dvd, which is pretty cool. And I've been listening to Saucerful of Secrets and its really great. I really like the songs that Wright wrote, and how he sings on a lot of the cd. Now I love Gilmour's voice, but its cool to see Wright playing a larger part. His songs are really dreamy, and he's a great musician as well. I think I'll buy this cd next.

EDIT:

This is from the All Pink Floyd Fan Network, in response to those crazy noise you hear on Echoes.


The song "Several Species of Small Furry Animals Gathered Together in a Cave and Grooving With a Pict" was done all by Roger Waters himself. The weird sounds are obtained by playing human voices back at various speeds, whereas the drumming sounds are created by Water drumming with his hands on his body and a table (or something similar). A "pict" is a member of a possibly non-Celtic people who once occupied Great Britain, carried on continual border wars with the Romans, and about the ninth century became amalgamated with the Scots. There is are still discussions as far as what is said during the song.

BludgeonySteve 01-17-2005 01:46 PM

Aparently there actually is going to be a floyd reunion soon. Rodger Waters even confirmed it. But I'm skepticle because I can't find a source. Can someone post one?

Otherside 01-17-2005 01:55 PM

[QUOTE=rock not roll]Aparently there actually is going to be a floyd reunion soon. Rodger Waters even confirmed it. But I'm skepticle because I can't find a source. Can someone post one?[/QUOTE]


It wouldn't suprise me, they seem to have resolved their differences in the interview with the whole band in Guitar One. I was pretty suprised and was thinking if maybe they would do a reuinon concert.



In other news, I just picked up Meddle today and I'm pretty satisfied :thumb:

magicbus 01-17-2005 03:45 PM

[QUOTE=Otherside]It wouldn't suprise me, they seem to have resolved their differences in the interview with the whole band in Guitar One. I was pretty suprised and was thinking if maybe they would do a reuinon concert.



In other news, I just picked up Meddle today and I'm pretty satisfied :thumb:[/QUOTE]

Good choice. That was my first Floyd [I]record[/I], not cd, and I love it. One Of These Days has the sweetest intro ever (tied with Have A Cigar) and Echoes is brilliant.

In this interview, were Roger and Dave talking to each other? In my opinion, the fact that they haven't spoken in a long time is the only thing stopped the band from reunited. Roger's already on good terms with Nick.

Dr. Jake Destructo 01-17-2005 04:25 PM

[QUOTE=rock not roll]Aparently there actually is going to be a floyd reunion soon. Rodger Waters even confirmed it. But I'm skepticle because I can't find a source. Can someone post one?[/QUOTE]

Where did you hear him say this, or who did you get it from? My praying to the music gods has finally done some good. :cool: I'll look for some type of confirmation on this however.

Distant Echoes 01-17-2005 05:11 PM

I will look into a floyd reunion until i have found every Floyd related site. Where did you hear that? That would make my life worth living, since half the bands i love are already dead...and floyd seems to be the only ones alive from them but refusing to tour. Sortta pisses me off, but then i listen to DSOTM and forgive them.

Distant Echoes 01-17-2005 05:15 PM

After several seconds of searching, heres a similar topic i found on Roger gigging soon or recently (i didnt read it yet, and i dont know when it happened or will happen)
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It has been brought up by several web pages on the internet that Roger Waters would be perfoming at an NBC charity event to raise funds for the 'American Red Cross' International Response Fund, which is involved in offering funds and support towards the recent tsunami tragedy.

According to the Brain Damage website, they have confirmed this information with Roger Waters' management office:

[I]Without wishing to spoil any surprises, we can confirm that Roger will be performing a classic song from his back catalogue, with another big name performer. They are taping this prior to Saturday, so that it can be inserted into the show at a suitable juncture.

NBC Universal has teamed up with the American Red Cross for the telethon, which will encourage viewers to donate financial aid to the millions affected by the devastating natural disaster which occurred in Southern Asia on 26th December. Besides NBC and Pax, the special will also air on the USA Network, Sci-Fi Channel, Bravo, Trio, MSNBC, CNBC, and Telemundo.

For our friends in Europe, we now also have the great news that CNBC Europe will be broadcasting at the very least, an edited version of the show. CNBC Europe broadcast to most of Europe - to see if you will be able to view it, visit the Receiving CNBC page on their site, select your country, and the relevent reception details will appear. They are currently scheduling the show for broadcast at 01:00hrs GMT, and 19:00hrs GMT. We do not know yet if these two broadcast slots will have either an edit of the complete show, or each hold half of the show. We are currently speaking to CNBC Europe to find out for you.

Stars lined up for the show, apart from Waters, include [B]Eric Clapton[/B], Brian Wilson, Stevie Wonder, Diana Ross, Madonna, Norah Jones, Usher, Sarah McLachlan, Sheryl Crow, Mary J. Blige, Lenny Kravitz, John Mayer, Kenny Chesney, India.Arie, Tom Jones, Gloria Estefan, Halle Berry, Kevin Spacey, George Clooney, Danny DeVito, Michael Douglas and Catherine Zeta-Jones, Rhea Pearlman, Tim Robbins, Bruce Willis, Uma Thurman, Matt Damon, and Maroon 5. The show is scheduled to last two hours - which should be a squeeze to get all these guests on along with the fund-raising information. It is set to air live on the East Coast and via a tape delay in the West. Phone lines will remain open throughout the evening for donations, NBC Universal said. [/I]
Source: [url]http://www.brain-damage.co.uk/news/0501123.html[/url]

magicbus 01-17-2005 05:22 PM

Yea him and Clapton played Wish You Were Here on Saturday night.

Distant Echoes 01-17-2005 05:27 PM

Ashame i missed that

Im still looking though, but i keep getting results from Q magazine, which is totally full of ****

PinkFloyd 01-17-2005 05:28 PM

[QUOTE=DeusExMachina]Gilmour is clearly a better musician. No where in there do you even come close to refuting that. His guitar playing is unbelievable. Also, Gilmour wrote the riff to ABITW pt. 2, which was a LOT more popular than Money. But, since I'm sure we all agree that popularity isn't the best test of a good song writer, how about Comfortably Numb? Not super popular in terms of air play or billboard charts or anything, but its bloody brilliant. Who wrote it, I wonder? Oh yeah, Gilmour.[/QUOTE]

For smart guys, I laugh about how you all get worked up over sarcasm. Take note of the outrageous claims, and the exclamation marks after every sentence. You can tell that I was implying a sarcastic tone to my speech. That post was a joke, but not the post I made after concerning Wright. Anyways, if you really DO want to get all serious on me, Roger Waters does have songwritting credits on Comfortably Numb because he supplied the lyrics, and vocal melody. There's no doubt about that.

So to royally burn you: (All quotes refer to Comfortably Numb)

" What happened is Dave gave me a chord sequence, so if you want to fight about it, I could say that [B]I[/B] wrote the melody and and the lyrics, obviously. I think in the choruses, he actually hummed a bit of the melody, but in the verses he certainly didn't. " [I]Roger Waters[/I]

" He came back with this spoken-word verse and a lyric in the chorus that still stands out as one of the greatest ever written." [I]Bob Enzin [/I] reffering to Waters.

" Things like "Comfortably Numb" are really the last embers of Roger and my ability to work collaboratively together." [I]David Gilmour[/I]

Quotes 1 and 2 support that Waters wrote the lyrics and came up with AT LEAST the vocal melody to the verse of Comfortably Numb. Vocal Melody is music. Quote 3, explains how Comfortably Numb was a collaborative effort and not just "Gilmour's song" like you wrongfully claimed.

Otherside 01-17-2005 06:18 PM

[QUOTE=magicbus]Good choice. That was my first Floyd [I]record[/I], not cd, and I love it. One Of These Days has the sweetest intro ever (tied with Have A Cigar) and Echoes is brilliant.

In this interview, were Roger and Dave talking to each other? In my opinion, the fact that they haven't spoken in a long time is the only thing stopped the band from reunited. Roger's already on good terms with Nick.[/QUOTE]


Yah it was the whole band, which suprised me.

Raijo 01-17-2005 06:21 PM

[QUOTE=PinkFloyd]For smart guys, I laugh about how you all get worked up over sarcasm. Take note of the outrageous claims, and the exclamation marks after every sentence. You can tell that I was implying a sarcastic tone to my speech. That post was a joke, but not the post I made after concerning Wright. Anyways, if you really DO want to get all serious on me, Roger Waters does have songwritting credits on Comfortably Numb because he supplied the lyrics, and vocal melody. There's no doubt about that.

So to royally burn you: (All quotes refer to Comfortably Numb)

" What happened is Dave gave me a chord sequence, so if you want to fight about it, I could say that [B]I[/B] wrote the melody and and the lyrics, obviously. I think in the choruses, he actually hummed a bit of the melody, but in the verses he certainly didn't. " [I]Roger Waters[/I]

" He came back with this spoken-word verse and a lyric in the chorus that still stands out as one of the greatest ever written." [I]Bob Enzin [/I] reffering to Waters.

" Things like "Comfortably Numb" are really the last embers of Roger and my ability to work collaboratively together." [I]David Gilmour[/I]

Quotes 1 and 2 support that Waters wrote the lyrics and came up with AT LEAST the vocal melody to the verse of Comfortably Numb. Vocal Melody is music. Quote 3, explains how Comfortably Numb was a collaborative effort and not just "Gilmour's song" like you wrongfully claimed.[/QUOTE]


Your post hardly seemed sarcastic. Keep in mind that this is the internet and we can't see your facial expression or hear the tone of your voice. Deus hardly seemed all that worked up about what you said, he looked as though he was just arguing a point.

magicbus 01-17-2005 06:26 PM

[QUOTE=PinkFloyd]For smart guys, I laugh about how you all get worked up over sarcasm. Take note of the outrageous claims, and the exclamation marks after every sentence. You can tell that I was implying a sarcastic tone to my speech. That post was a joke, but not the post I made after concerning Wright. Anyways, if you really DO want to get all serious on me, Roger Waters does have songwritting credits on Comfortably Numb because he supplied the lyrics, and vocal melody. There's no doubt about that.[/QUOTE]

First off, nobody could tell you were being sarcastic, otherwise we would've respsoned differently or somebody would've pointed it out to use.

Secondly, Deus was arguing that Gilmour wrote songs for Pink Floyd also. A good example of this point is how Gilmour wrote the majority of Comfortably numb. Yes, Waters provided lyrics, but he did so for almost every Floyd song. Its almost a given that a Floyd song contains lyrics by Waters. But that's about all he did. Gilmour wrote most of the song, which is why you could say its his. Now if the two had worked together to form the entire song, it wouldn't be right to only give the credit only to one person. Gilmour conceived the song and was the one who presented it to Waters in the first place.

DeusExMachina 01-17-2005 06:53 PM

[QUOTE=PinkFloyd]For smart guys, I laugh about how you all get worked up over sarcasm. Take note of the outrageous claims, and the exclamation marks after every sentence. You can tell that I was implying a sarcastic tone to my speech. That post was a joke, but not the post I made after concerning Wright. Anyways, if you really DO want to get all serious on me, Roger Waters does have songwritting credits on Comfortably Numb because he supplied the lyrics, and vocal melody. There's no doubt about that.

So to royally burn you: (All quotes refer to Comfortably Numb)

" What happened is Dave gave me a chord sequence, so if you want to fight about it, I could say that [B]I[/B] wrote the melody and and the lyrics, obviously. I think in the choruses, he actually hummed a bit of the melody, but in the verses he certainly didn't. " [I]Roger Waters[/I]

" He came back with this spoken-word verse and a lyric in the chorus that still stands out as one of the greatest ever written." [I]Bob Enzin [/I] reffering to Waters.

" Things like "Comfortably Numb" are really the last embers of Roger and my ability to work collaboratively together." [I]David Gilmour[/I]

Quotes 1 and 2 support that Waters wrote the lyrics and came up with AT LEAST the vocal melody to the verse of Comfortably Numb. Vocal Melody is music. Quote 3, explains how Comfortably Numb was a collaborative effort and not just "Gilmour's song" like you wrongfully claimed.[/QUOTE]

I had no clue you were being sarcastic. I don't think anyone else did, either. You very rarely post in this thread, so I have no idea what your online speech patterns, or style of sarcasm are. Also, I would hardly call what I did "getting worked up" over it. But, whatever. You seem to have interesting ideas of what is "obvious sarcasm" and what is "getting worked up." Now, I don't remember what I said exactly, but I'm fairly certain I didn't say that Comfortably Numb is "gilmour's song." I said he wrote the music. Which is true. He also wrote the vocal melody for the chorus (I know this because I read a biography.) And he also wrote the part of the song that really makes it famous; the guitar solos. All guitar solos were written by David Gilmour. So, even when Waters claims all the writing credit to songs, chances are Gilmour was actually largely involved with it. Once again, ABITW pt. 2 comes to mind. Waters claims all the writing credit, but Gilmour took a strumming acoustic guitar and vocals and turned it into a hit single. Saying ABITW pt. 2 is Waters' song is like saying All Along the Watchtower is Bob Dylan's song. Sure, Bob Dylan wrote it, but when you hear that name, who comes to mind, Dylan or Hendrix?

Anyways, about a Floyd reunion tour, I would love for it to be true, but don't get your hopes up people. There are rumors going around they they've confirmed it, but no credible source has been found. On the other side, however, there have been several credible interviews where the members of the band denied it. As for the interview in that magazine, (Q, I think it was) I doubt that the whole band did the interview together. Nick and Rick and David get along just fine, but Roger is definitely not getting along with any of them. When they were working on making the Echoes album, they needed a go between, because the two parties refused to work face to face. So, the rumors are flying, and I'd love for them to be true, but once again, I doubt they will be.

el hendrix del jimi es un dios 01-17-2005 06:56 PM

Floyd rosado es absolutamente una buena venda. ¡Celebre su música cuando usted está violando a niños!

DeusExMachina 01-17-2005 06:57 PM

[QUOTE=PinkFloyd]If Waters was a virtuso bassist, I probably wouldn't like Pink Floyd any more or less. With songs that good, I could care less if the bass was elaborated on a bit more. Plus Waters wrote the bass for money. Has Gilmour ever written a riff so catchy/popular/sucessfull? NO! Therefor, Waters>Gilmour as a musician as well as songwritting!

The only reason why they showed Mason playing in Pompei is because they lost the other footage of the band and had nothing else.

Also, check out December's Guitar World mag. It has a rather extended interview with PF concerning the tensions juring The Wall and the POV of different band members.

One quote I don't agree with from Gilmour is how "Roger destroyed Nick and Rick as musicians". Personally that's just not possible. So, you got kicked out of a band in 1979/1980 and by 1987, because of that terrible ordeal, you're not able to come up with any keyboard parts for the album! Blame it on Roger! Seriously, that doesn't make anysense whatsoever. Wright hasn't put out anything worth while in over 25 years (last sparks of creativity probably off Animals) and all this is attributed to Roger kicking him out of Pink Floyd and being a "hardass". I fail to see how being kicked out of a band will automatically make you loose all sense of musical creativity, even decades after the fact.[/QUOTE]

Also, hate to double post, but to "royally burn you," as you so eloquently put it.

I see a sum total of 4 exclamation points in those two posts combined. That sure is an "exclamation point after every sentence." Also, I see one outrageous claim. Which is the one that Waters > Gilmour at musicianship. Now, when one outrageous claim is placed in a group with a bunch of otherwise lucid statements, how are we supposed to just assume that you're being sarcastic? Oh right, because "I can tell you were implying a sarcastic tone to your speech."

PinkFloyd 01-17-2005 10:41 PM

[QUOTE=DeusExMachina]I had no clue you were being sarcastic. I don't think anyone else did, either. You very rarely post in this thread, so I have no idea what your online speech patterns, or style of sarcasm are. Also, I would hardly call what I did "getting worked up" over it. But, whatever. You seem to have interesting ideas of what is "obvious sarcasm" and what is "getting worked up." Now, I don't remember what I said exactly, but I'm fairly certain I didn't say that Comfortably Numb is "gilmour's song." I said he wrote the music. Which is true. He also wrote the vocal melody for the chorus (I know this because I read a biography.) And he also wrote the part of the song that really makes it famous; the guitar solos. All guitar solos were written by David Gilmour. So, even when Waters claims all the writing credit to songs, chances are Gilmour was actually largely involved with it. Once again, ABITW pt. 2 comes to mind. Waters claims all the writing credit, but Gilmour took a strumming acoustic guitar and vocals and turned it into a hit single. Saying ABITW pt. 2 is Waters' song is like saying All Along the Watchtower is Bob Dylan's song. Sure, Bob Dylan wrote it, but when you hear that name, who comes to mind, Dylan or Hendrix? .[/QUOTE]


Don't renig on your statement. This is your exact quote:

"how about Comfortably Numb? Not super popular in terms of air play or billboard charts or anything, but its bloody brilliant. Who wrote it, I wonder? Oh yeah, Gilmour."

To me that's pretty much saying Gilmour wrote the song, I don't know about you. Also, I never once said anything about ABITWP2, I don't know why your are ranting on about. It was actually Bob Enzin's idea to boost it up to 110 bmp or whatever it was to match the disco beats, not Gilmour's. I think Enzin is entitled to some credit aswell. But you are correct about ABITWP2, I'm not anti-Gilmour or anything, he helped make the song as succesfull as it is. I look at it like this, but for Waters the song wouldn't even exist. There is a fine difference between writting a song and adding/modifying parts to the a written song. Personally, I find it much harder to come up with the song itself.

Anyways, I don't want to go into a flame war with you. I think I have said pretty much all that I wanted to say. I think if you checked out many of my previous posts on these forums, you would see that that sarcastic statement contradicts many of my other posts which holds Gilmour in high esteem. I will go on the record saying that Gilmour is a better musician than Waters. But a better songwritter and lyricist? Not in a million years IMO.

PinkFloyd 01-17-2005 10:53 PM

[QUOTE=magicbus]

Secondly, Deus was arguing that Gilmour wrote songs for Pink Floyd also. A good example of this point is how Gilmour wrote the majority of Comfortably numb. Yes, Waters provided lyrics, but he did so for almost every Floyd song. Its almost a given that a Floyd song contains lyrics by Waters. But that's about all he did. Gilmour wrote most of the song, which is why you could say its his. Now if the two had worked together to form the entire song, it wouldn't be right to only give the credit only to one person. Gilmour conceived the song and was the one who presented it to Waters in the first place.[/QUOTE]

Obviously you have not even read the quotes that I have taken the time to insert into my posts. You say that Water's lyrics are a given but that's all he did? My whole post was dedicated to discounting that theory and backing it up with actual quotes from the band members. It clearly stated that Roger Waters is responsible for the vocal melody for the verse of Comfortably Numb which is actual MUSIC. It certainly shows this isn't a case of "But that's about all he did." Considering Roger came to the other members of Floyd with a whole demo tape of the Wall that he had recorded at his house, it would be impossible for a demo tape to consist of just lyrics and no music. If he didn't do any music for that, then it would impossible to even create that tape.

You said that "Dues was arguing that Gilmour wrote songs for Pink Floyd also." Yes, maybe so. But when he says:

"how about Comfortably Numb? Not super popular in terms of air play or billboard charts or anything, but its bloody brilliant. Who wrote it, I wonder? Oh yeah, Gilmour."

That is flat out wrong considering Gilmour and Waters have both gone on the record stating in interviews that the song was "last embers of Roger and my ability to work collaboratively together." -[I]David Gilmour[/I]

If you couldn't tell I was being sarcastic, then my apologies. Honestly. I don't want to get into a flame war with fellow Pink Floyd fans and ruin this thread. As I said to Duece, I have gotten my point across and I will settle with that.

Dr. Jake Destructo 01-17-2005 11:39 PM

My copy of The Wall DVD just arrived from Amazon.com. I think I was supposed to be stoned during the first viewing. Wierdest movie I've ever seen, by far, but it was still awesome.

EDIT: Gilmour>Waters

DeusExMachina 01-18-2005 12:35 PM

[QUOTE=PinkFloyd]Don't renig on your statement. This is your exact quote:

"how about Comfortably Numb? Not super popular in terms of air play or billboard charts or anything, but its bloody brilliant. Who wrote it, I wonder? Oh yeah, Gilmour."

To me that's pretty much saying Gilmour wrote the song, I don't know about you. Also, I never once said anything about ABITWP2, I don't know why your are ranting on about. It was actually Bob Enzin's idea to boost it up to 110 bmp or whatever it was to match the disco beats, not Gilmour's. I think Enzin is entitled to some credit aswell. But you are correct about ABITWP2, I'm not anti-Gilmour or anything, he helped make the song as succesfull as it is. I look at it like this, but for Waters the song wouldn't even exist. There is a fine difference between writting a song and adding/modifying parts to the a written song. Personally, I find it much harder to come up with the song itself.

Anyways, I don't want to go into a flame war with you. I think I have said pretty much all that I wanted to say. I think if you checked out many of my previous posts on these forums, you would see that that sarcastic statement contradicts many of my other posts which holds Gilmour in high esteem. I will go on the record saying that Gilmour is a better musician than Waters. But a better songwritter and lyricist? Not in a million years IMO.[/QUOTE]

Fair enough. Sorry for the misunderstanding, peace love and harmony, all the jazz. Just to show no hard feelings, rep++

magicbus 01-18-2005 02:30 PM

[QUOTE=kombucha mushroom mofo]My copy of The Wall DVD just arrived from Amazon.com. I think I was supposed to be stoned during the first viewing. Wierdest movie I've ever seen, by far, but it was still awesome.

EDIT: Gilmour>Waters[/QUOTE]

Yea that movie definently rules. I'm listening to the album right now. How do you like the animations?

To PinkFloyd, sorry dude, I was tired and pissed off yesterday, half of that **** probably didn't make any sense cause I was so out of it. But yea I get what you're saying. No more arguing just for the sake of it.

Lateralias 01-18-2005 03:48 PM

I love the animations for The Wall.... especially Goodbye Blue Sky.... it sends chills up and down my spine.

DeusExMachina 01-18-2005 03:59 PM

Man, I just woke up, and The Trial was playing... weird stuff.

Kingofdudes 01-18-2005 04:03 PM

aint that cute? Just dont start making out in this thread guys.

tenacious58 01-18-2005 04:29 PM

"When Pink Floyd was recording "Shine On You Crazy Diamond" (and on the very day of David Gilmour's wedding to his first wife, Ginger), they received a visitor in the studio. He basically kept to himself, occasionally getting up to brush his teeth. From Pink Floyd: The Illustrated Discography:

"During the WYWH sessions a fat, shaven-headed person wearing grey Terylene trousers, a nylon shirt and string vest wandered into the studio. The band ignored the visitor and kept on playing and it was the visiting Andrew King who finally recognised their guest: 'Good God, it's Syd! How did you get like that?' To which Syd replied, 'I've got a very large fridge at home and I've been eating a lot of pork chops.' The whole event was slightly un-nerving since the theme of the album was based on Syd and his subsequent madness."

i just thought that is an interesting little anectdote


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