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Grey Incision 03-20-2005 03:56 AM

my-kay-l ak-er-feld

i suck at pronunciation:(

the2stranger 03-20-2005 04:16 AM

[QUOTE=Det_Nosnip]I can't stand it, to be honest. I much preferred the old forum-style of CD reviews, in which the focus was more on discussing the albums and introducing new material. I feel like it's alot harder to push the obscure groups I often liked to push on the old setup. With a traditional reviews site like Sputnik, it feels like the purpose is more for people to see what other people think of music that they've already heard; there's less of an incentive to track down and find the weird stuff that you've never heard of, you know?

I don't know if I'm making myself particularly clear, I took a nap earlier this afternoon and it kinda threw me off. :( But, bottom line: I prefered the old system. Reviews should be the start of multi-lateral discussions, not just something to read through really quick and make a quick comment in approval or disapproval.

PS does anyone know exactly how to pronounce Mikael Akerfeldt's name? I never really thought about it...[/QUOTE]


I totaly agree with you.
I like the way sputnik looks and all, but I think, it's too static.
unknown bands can stand up in a fight against the bigger names.
(like the ranking list ob the left, it's all Tool, Metallica, Radiohead, those are all fairly known)
it's good for known bandas, but almost no one can discover unknown bands :(

sometimes I go to the 'view all artists section' and just click on a random artist, and read a review, this does help me expend my music library :)

whatduffhuck7 03-20-2005 08:38 PM

does anybody know when opeth new albums is comin out?

Magicaltroll 03-20-2005 08:42 PM

[QUOTE=whatduffhuck7]does anybody know when opeth new albums is comin out?[/QUOTE]
I hope this year.

RouteOne 03-20-2005 08:53 PM

Anybody know if the the new Opeth album will have a concept?

Grey Incision 03-20-2005 09:20 PM

here's hoping, all i know is that mikael has ditched the occult black metal theme

opeth_oasis 03-21-2005 01:23 AM

i think it will be interesting to see how long the songs are going to be, will he keep to the long songs or not is a big question in my thoughts

Deth 03-21-2005 10:28 AM

He said on Lamentions that he's considering a concept album so fingers crossed.

Cain 03-21-2005 10:47 AM

[QUOTE=Grey Incision]here's hoping, all i know is that mikael has ditched the occult black metal theme[/QUOTE]

What exactly does that mean? Will they change their sound or something?

Deth 03-21-2005 10:49 AM

They'll change their sound like they always have. I doubt they'll keep the same style as BWP and the following albums.

Nice avatar Cain.

Cain 03-21-2005 10:52 AM

[QUOTE=Creeping_Deth]They'll change their sound like they always have. I doubt they'll keep the same style as BWP and the following albums.

Nice avatar Cain.[/QUOTE]

Many thanks. :cool:

I just hope they don't go lighter. They should try to be really ambitious with this one. More medieval guitar, dammit!!!

Deth 03-21-2005 10:53 AM

I like the medieval guitar. But whatever they incorporate into the sound, it will rule.

Det_Nosnip 03-21-2005 02:16 PM

[QUOTE=Cain]What exactly does that mean? Will they change their sound or something?[/QUOTE]

Originally, the band was going to make their next release a kind of dark black metal type of thing rather than the prog death they usually do, but they decided against it.

Bartender 03-21-2005 02:21 PM

[QUOTE=Det]
I can't stand it, to be honest. I much preferred the old forum-style of CD reviews.. (etc)[/QUOTE]

So did I.

Kafkastolemyslippers 03-21-2005 05:52 PM

[QUOTE=Cain]Many thanks. :cool:

I just hope they don't go lighter. They should try to be really ambitious with this one. More medieval guitar, dammit!!![/QUOTE]

Yeah the medieval guitar is what got me into them; I originally only liked Morningrise because of that.

opeth_oasis 03-22-2005 12:32 AM

medieval guitar is a huge turn on

Grey Incision 03-22-2005 01:16 AM

truth, i've been trying to incorporate it into my playing style, i think it's the minor chords that get me though, mikael's use of barred minors rules

the2stranger 03-22-2005 11:56 AM

[QUOTE=Kafkastolemyslippers]Yeah the medieval guitar is what got me into them; I originally only liked Morningrise because of that.[/QUOTE]

123

I first only likes to bid you farewell, and after that I noticed the awesome guitarparts in black rose immortal, then I was sold :cool:

Magicaltroll 03-22-2005 12:52 PM

In Lamentations didn't Mike say that he was absolutely sick of that style of playing in the documentary? He said he liked Morningrise, but there was some parts he couldn't even stand to listen to because of the guitar style (meaning the medieval guitar :( )

I just want more Opeth! I'm not sure I would like it if they went back to that style,I mean its cool, but I like Deliverance style alot more (everything but Wreath). And I hope they stick to the jazzy type.... interludes? I don't know what to call them but you know what I'm talking about.

evil ernie 03-22-2005 12:56 PM

Medieval guitars?

You guys are talking about twin guitar harmonies?

Magicaltroll 03-22-2005 01:49 PM

[QUOTE=evil ernie]Medieval guitars?

You guys are talking about twin guitar harmonies?[/QUOTE]
Yes, the ones that sound medievalish.

Cain 03-22-2005 01:51 PM

[QUOTE=evil ernie]Medieval guitars?

You guys are talking about twin guitar harmonies?[/QUOTE]

The acoustics more than anything else. The chord structures and progressions on songs like Benighted and Advent are very Baroque-ly minor key to me.

Cain 03-22-2005 01:53 PM

[QUOTE=magicaltroll834]In Lamentations didn't Mike say that he was absolutely sick of that style of playing in the documentary? He said he liked Morningrise, but there was some parts he couldn't even stand to listen to because of the guitar style (meaning the medieval guitar :( )

I just want more Opeth! I'm not sure I would like it if they went back to that style,I mean its cool, but I like Deliverance style alot more (everything but Wreath). And I hope they stick to the jazzy type.... interludes? I don't know what to call them but you know what I'm talking about.[/QUOTE]

What he meant was the twin guitar parts, the electrics more than the acoustics: and the utter lightness and darkness of the themes, when they switched. The acoustic guitar on Still Life, two albums later, is the medieval guitar that I want back. I saw none of it on ****ation, or Deliverance either with the exception of the bridge to "A Fair Judgement."

Magicaltroll 03-22-2005 01:56 PM

[QUOTE=Cain]What he meant was the twin guitar parts, the electrics more than the acoustics: and the utter lightness and darkness of the themes, when they switched. The acoustic guitar on Still Life, two albums later, is the medieval guitar that I want back. I saw none of it on ****ation, or Deliverance either with the exception of the bridge to "A Fair Judgement."[/QUOTE]
Ohhh, I thought he meant the acoustics.
But still, I like the more death metalish side of Opeth. Albums like Blackwater Park and Deliverance. The older albums were good too, but I like the newer ones because they are way heavier :thumb:

anubae_obscura 03-22-2005 01:57 PM

I absolutely love OPETH! I cannot get enough...watch lamentations 2-3 times a week and keep their cds permanently in my player....they are the best!

the2stranger 03-22-2005 01:58 PM

^

Mikeal got sick of that, so I don't think we'll ever see twin guitar back.
it does keep Morningrise unique though :)

Magicaltroll 03-22-2005 02:03 PM

[url]http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2AAG2NH1CPS5811RWW3HE4E5JK[/url]

Theres Opeth- Orchid, if anyone doesn't have it.
I put it up on yousendit for some guy, and I decided to not let it go to waste, so there ya go :)
It also has the bonus track.

Kaiwaz 03-22-2005 05:39 PM

I just learned how to play the Entire song "In Mist She Was Standing" rythm. I record all the higher parts in my 8 year old ZOOM pedal and play the lower or standard parts as I go along with the song. I still can't figure out how to play the acoustic riff before the outro though. It's really hard to get it to sound like it is, actually I don't think I [I]can [/I] get it to sound like that. It's a masterpiece. I don't know what kind of acoustic he used to record that riff with...but It sounds like a Martin to me :thumb:

What do you guitarists out there think?

RouteOne 03-22-2005 06:36 PM

[QUOTE=Flynn]I just learned how to play the Entire song "In Mist She Was Standing" rythm. I record all the higher parts in my 8 year old ZOOM pedal and play the lower or standard parts as I go along with the song. I still can't figure out how to play the acoustic riff before the outro though. It's really hard to get it to sound like it is, actually I don't think I [I]can [/I] get it to sound like that. It's a masterpiece. I don't know what kind of acoustic he used to record that riff with...but It sounds like a Martin to me :thumb:

What do you guitarists out there think?[/QUOTE]
Can you post it somehow?

Kage 03-22-2005 06:55 PM

[QUOTE=Flynn]I just learned how to play the Entire song "In Mist She Was Standing" rythm. I record all the higher parts in my 8 year old ZOOM pedal and play the lower or standard parts as I go along with the song. I still can't figure out how to play the acoustic riff before the outro though. It's really hard to get it to sound like it is, actually I don't think I [I]can [/I] get it to sound like that. It's a masterpiece. I don't know what kind of acoustic he used to record that riff with...but It sounds like a Martin to me :thumb:

What do you guitarists out there think?[/QUOTE]

heh...I'd kill for a Martin acoustic. Nice job on learning the song, though. I have yet to tackle that one. I've been making my way through the Delieverance album for some reason.

EDIT: That's a cool feature on the Zoom pedal, too. It's perfect for learning/writing parts with two simultaneous guitar parts.

Magicaltroll 03-22-2005 07:49 PM

[QUOTE=Kage]heh...I'd kill for a Martin acoustic. Nice job on learning the song, though. I have yet to tackle that one. I've been making my way through the Delieverance album for some reason.

EDIT: That's a cool feature on the Zoom pedal, too. It's perfect for learning/writing parts with two simultaneous guitar parts.[/QUOTE]
I still haven't been learning much Opeth. I always get confused when playing it, I don't know if its because the tabs are wrong, or if its because I'm just stupid when it comes to that stuff...
But I know a good aount of their acoustic stuff :thumb:

evil ernie 03-23-2005 12:33 AM

Well.... thank you guys for clarifying the medieval guitar thing...though I don't believe the word is appropriate here. Maybe that's because when I say medieval, I mean Hammerfall or Freedom Call, which is obviously not what you meant.

Concerning the last acoustic part of In The Mist She Was Standing, I don't understand exactly what is hard to figure out, the part is quite slow and relativly simple, no ****ed up chords or anything, and both guitars are panned seperatly. If your concern is only the sound of that part, there's not much you can do about it more than screwing around for hours on your recording program to get as close as possible to their sound. Even if you had the exact guitar Mikael used on this album, even if you had the exact same recording equipement he used, you still would have a hard time nailing the exact tone you can ear on the album.

Oh and the outro of this song is soooooooo good.

opeth_oasis 03-23-2005 12:53 AM

[QUOTE=the2stranger]^

Mikeal got sick of that, so I don't think we'll ever see twin guitar back.
it does keep Morningrise unique though :)[/QUOTE]

yes, we had to bid the twin guitar farewell. I just started to learn the Leper Affinity, and i think its the hardest opeth song ive ever attempted, though im starting to get it down

evil ernie 03-23-2005 01:50 AM

Yeah The Lepper Affinity is the hardest Opeth song to play in my opinion.

Grey Incision 03-23-2005 02:37 AM

i think that some of the songs off of still life are harder, namely, white cluster

Cardboard Headgear 03-23-2005 02:54 AM

[QUOTE=Flynn] I don't know what kind of acoustic he used to record that riff with...but It sounds like a Martin to me :thumb:

What do you guitarists out there think?[/QUOTE]
Go look on their site, there's a list of all the equipment they used for all the albums. And no, its not a Martin, he didn't have one back then. It's some classical guitar.

[QUOTE=Grey Incision]i think that some of the songs off of still life are harder, namely, white cluster[/QUOTE]
Yeah, Still Life has the most unorthodox riffing of any of their albums, very odd patterns and melodies. Lots of the riffs are tricky to get down just becuase they are so out of the ordinary for what your hands are used to doing. Tounge (i can't spell) twisters for guitar, if you will. What exactly do you guys find hard about The Leper Affinity? Maybe I can help.

Grey Incision 03-23-2005 02:59 AM

yeah, definatly, the easiest song is probably the moor, and even then, that's quite hard

opeth_oasis 03-23-2005 03:01 AM

i think benighted is easier than the moor

Grey Incision 03-23-2005 03:19 AM

haha, dunno, i always have trouble with benighted, my finger picking is far from up to scratch

opeth_oasis 03-23-2005 03:46 AM

[QUOTE=Cardboard Headgear]Go look on their site, there's a list of all the equipment they used for all the albums. And no, its not a Martin, he didn't have one back then. It's some classical guitar.


Yeah, Still Life has the most unorthodox riffing of any of their albums, very odd patterns and melodies. Lots of the riffs are tricky to get down just becuase they are so out of the ordinary for what your hands are used to doing. Tounge (i can't spell) twisters for guitar, if you will. What exactly do you guys find hard about The Leper Affinity? Maybe I can help.[/QUOTE]

nothing in particular hard about it, some of the riffage is difficult to get down, but im getting there


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