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RetiredAt21 11-26-2005 03:12 AM

Yeah, TMOJA is really good.

RetiredAt21 11-26-2005 03:19 AM

His Hero Is Gone is my new favorite band. I listened to them before, but I really fell in love with them after I heard the songs "Carry On" and "Epidemic." F'ucking amazing. Does anyone have the lyrics to either of those songs by the way?

skateMASTERbater2 11-26-2005 04:57 AM

Does anyone know anything about the band formed with ex-nasum members? Or when they're planning to record anything?

Gnarmageddon 11-26-2005 10:24 AM

[quote=J]I only have the two that ye have, as I sent ye those two. I need to get more myself. :lol:[/quote]
Ha, yeah. I searched them on Interpunk the other day and they have like 5 albums. I'll have to look for some on Soulseek later.

[quote=Subvert_bassist]I have no ****ing clue.

"Smells like pus[size="2"]s[/size]y!"[/quote]
:lol: They're like 5 year old kids.

"SMELLS! LIKE! A PILE OF BULLSH[size="2"]I[/size]T!

That gets me pumped up every time I listen to it.

[quote=Peter]OMg MoJA is so good. I want them so come north and play with my band.[/quote]
That would be sweet. But I don't know if their parents would let them. THEY APPEAR TO BE AROUND THE AGE OF 13.

Subvert_bassist 11-26-2005 11:35 AM

I have to say, grind is the superior form of music, above all other forms. Except for melodic hardcore; From Ashes Rise is god.

RetiredAt21 11-26-2005 01:53 PM

I hereby pronouce His Hero Is Gone the best band in the world.

whiteminority 11-26-2005 02:07 PM

[QUOTE=Subvert_bassist]I have to say, grind is the superior form of music, above all other forms. Except for melodic hardcore; From Ashes Rise is god.[/QUOTE]
grind owns all

RetiredAt21 11-26-2005 02:57 PM

Grind does indeed own all. Grind music changed my life. :)

Gnarmageddon 11-26-2005 03:00 PM

I've been working on mastering blastbeats. I can play them alright, but I can't put any bass drum with the cymbal/snare. It's way too hard and it'll take a while to build up my leg muscles. But when I was playing them, the veins in my arm were all popping out and the muscle in my forearm is pretty strong.

RetiredAt21 11-26-2005 03:18 PM

Being able to play blastbeats well is quite the hurdle. I know my one friend couldn't play a good blastbeat for around 4 months. But he does awesome blastbeats now.

cbmartinez 11-26-2005 11:35 PM

[QUOTE=RetiredAt21]I hereby pronouce His Hero Is Gone the best band in the world.[/QUOTE]

/was jocking this band like a year ago

Brain Toad 11-26-2005 11:42 PM

[quote=RetiredAt21]I hereby pronouce His Hero Is Gone the best band in the world.[/quote]

I liked that band when I first heard them. That one guy J was friends with used to like them a lot.

Culture Shock 11-26-2005 11:49 PM

'His Hero Is Gone' is a rather lame name in my opinion.

TheHealingDawn 11-27-2005 12:59 AM

Cripple Bastards
Crossed Out
Dropdead
Nausea
Disrupt
State of Fear
Combatwoundedveteran
Doom
Birdflesh
Siege
Infest
Hail of Rage
MxBx (noisecore)
Hellnation
Dystopia
Charles Bronson
Spazz
Capitalist Casualties
Circle of Dead Children
Man is the Bastard
Discordanace axis
Assuck
Severed Head of State
Battle of Disarm
His Hero is Gone
General Surgery
Haemorrhage
Unholy Grave
misery
extinction of mankind
amebix
kent brockman
nasum
Masskontroll


Getting into:
Totalitar
Brainbombs

Feel The Darkness 11-27-2005 04:12 AM

[QUOTE=skateMASTERbater2]Does anyone know anything about the band formed with ex-nasum members? Or when they're planning to record anything?[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure, but I really need to find this out.

[QUOTE=Subvert_bassist]I have to say, grind is the superior form of music, above all other forms. Except for melodic hardcore; From Ashes Rise is god.[/QUOTE]
All you silly grinders still need to realize that THRASH is far more superior than your little blast beats and growls. :lol:

[QUOTE=RetiredAt21]I hereby pronouce His Hero Is Gone the best band in the world.[/QUOTE]
I still prefer From Ashes Rise over all the other bands they've made thus far.

[QUOTE=Brain Toad]I liked that band when I first heard them. That one guy J was friends with used to like them a lot.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, Andy was a total nut over those bands. He knew the bands histories and [SIZE="2"]s[/SIZE]hit like the back of his [SIZE="2"]c[/SIZE]ock. hahaha. Very good man, need to chill with that dude more often.

[QUOTE=TheHealingDawn]Cripple Bastards
Crossed Out
Dropdead
Nausea
Disrupt
State of Fear
Combatwoundedveteran
Doom
Birdflesh
Siege
Infest
Hail of Rage
MxBx (noisecore)
Hellnation
Dystopia
Charles Bronson
Spazz
Capitalist Casualties
Circle of Dead Children
Man is the Bastard
Discordanace axis
Assuck
Severed Head of State
Battle of Disarm
His Hero is Gone
General Surgery
Haemorrhage
Unholy Grave
misery
extinction of mankind
amebix
kent brockman
nasum
Masskontroll


Getting into:
Totalitar
Brainbombs[/QUOTE]
I like you.

Welcome!:wave:

whiteminority 11-27-2005 08:44 AM

[QUOTE=TheHealingDawn]Cripple Bastards
Crossed Out
Dropdead
Nausea
Disrupt
State of Fear
Combatwoundedveteran
Doom
Birdflesh
Siege
Infest
Hail of Rage
MxBx (noisecore)
Hellnation
Dystopia
Charles Bronson
Spazz
Capitalist Casualties
Circle of Dead Children
Man is the Bastard
Discordanace axis
Assuck
Severed Head of State
Battle of Disarm
His Hero is Gone
General Surgery
Haemorrhage
Unholy Grave
misery
extinction of mankind
amebix
kent brockman
nasum
Masskontroll


Getting into:
Totalitar
Brainbombs[/QUOTE]
nice list... though I have to say for some reason (it may be because i have been up for 2 minutes when i started reading that list i thought you were listing a show with tons of sweet bands... then i realized it was just ones you liked and i became sad.

TheHealingDawn 11-27-2005 12:00 PM

[QUOTE=whiteminority]nice list... though I have to say for some reason (it may be because i have been up for 2 minutes when i started reading that list [SIZE="4"]i thought you were listing a show with tons of sweet bands[/SIZE]... then i realized it was just ones you liked and i became sad.[/QUOTE]
haha, have you ever gone to pointless fest?

cbmartinez 11-27-2005 12:01 PM

In/Humanity reuinion at Pointless Fest!

TheHealingDawn 11-27-2005 12:01 PM

[QUOTE=JAtomic]I'm not sure, but I really need to find this out.


All you silly grinders still need to realize that THRASH is far more superior than your little blast beats and growls. :lol:


I still prefer From Ashes Rise over all the other bands they've made thus far.


Yeah, Andy was a total nut over those bands. He knew the bands histories and [SIZE="2"]s[/SIZE]hit like the back of his [SIZE="2"]c[/SIZE]ock. hahaha. Very good man, need to chill with that dude more often.


I like you.

Welcome!:wave:[/QUOTE]
:naughty:

RetiredAt21 11-27-2005 01:18 PM

[QUOTE=cbmartinez]In/Humanity reuinion at Pointless Fest![/QUOTE]

I'mma be there with you! :naughty:

Theramed 11-27-2005 01:41 PM

can some please give me a deffinition of a blastbeat ? i think it is wjen the drummer hits the snare really hard but ia m not sure

Gnarmageddon 11-27-2005 01:45 PM

I don't know the exact definition, but I know what it sounds like.

I guess it's like every beat is hit on a snare/cymbal at an extremely fast speed.

MILF Hunter 11-27-2005 02:05 PM

[QUOTE=Theramed]can some please give me a deffinition of a blastbeat ? i think it is wjen the drummer hits the snare really hard but ia m not sure[/QUOTE]

Blast beat is a drum beat consisting of torrents of alternating or simultaneous snare and bass drums. The hi-hat or a ride cymbal is often played simultaneously with either the bass drum or the snare drum, and occasionally a crash cymbal or china cup is also featured. Diverse patterns and timings are also frequently employed by more technical players. While this method is often used to create a forceful climax, a blastbeat can constitute the bulk of an entire song.

Blast beats have their roots in hardcore punk as well as thrash metal, however in modern standards the snare work is frequently comparable to established snare patterns in jazz. Blast beats are a prominent feature of death metal, black metal and grindcore to increase the speed, density, and percussiveness. Nevertheless they can also be found in other genres, including doom metal. The blast beat is a fundamental component in nearly all of extreme metal. Bands making extensive use of it include Origin, Cryptopsy, Napalm Death, Dying Fetus, Hate Eternal, Suffocation and Dark Funeral among others.

The original use in metal is generally attributed to SOD and Napalm Death. The former showcased the technique by a double-handed blast beat in the track "Milk". The latter started using it as a fundament of their musical compositions.

Early blast beats were generally quite slow and less precise compared to today's standards. Nowadays, a blast beat is normally played in tempos from 180 bpm upwards, with so-called "hyperblast beats" (achieved by using a one-handed roll on the snare and hi-hat and double bass drum) existing in the range of 260-340 bpm. There is also what is called a "gravity blast" which implements a different kind one-handed roll, called a gravity roll, a relatively recent invention which uses the rim of the snare as a fulcrum on which the stick is rocked back and forth, allowing two snare hits with each full arm motion (one on the down motion, and another coming up). Of the three the gravity blast allows the fastest speeds, as it essentially allows the work of two hands to be performed with one.

Typical blast beats consist of 8th note snare and 8th or 16th note bass drum hits, on the top of which a cymbal, normally a hi-hat or a ride, is hit, in Quarter or 8th notes. Variations exist. Some people (most notably Derek Roddy) maintain the bass drum should be played with one foot for the best effect in blast using 8th note bass drum strokes; however, others (in fact the majority of extreme metal drummers) split the 8th notes between both feet.

Gnarmageddon 11-27-2005 02:13 PM

Dave's the man.

That gravity blastbeat thing sounds weird.

Edit: Nasum - Human 2.0 is an incredible album.

Nerdcore753 11-27-2005 02:44 PM

I've been trying for months but I just can't seem to get the hang of that 'gravity roll' thing. My left hand has been getting faster with playing blast beats, though.

RetiredAt21 11-27-2005 02:46 PM

Holy crap Dave. That's the best definition of a blastbeat I've ever seen. Dave f'ucking rules.

Excursions 11-27-2005 02:51 PM

Deep Wound was a pretty good early example of using blast beats. Their drummer was intense even for a hardcore band.

Theramed 11-27-2005 04:09 PM

thanks guys dave especially

AIRIC 11-27-2005 05:21 PM

I'm pretty sure Dave didn't write that.

NP: Nasum - Shift

Awesome album, Wrath is such a good song.

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I wrote this for the genre definitions:
Power Violence is a sub genre of grindcore, and contains shrieked, high pitched vocals, very fast guitar, and very fast drums, using blast beats very often. Songs are played at such break-neck speed that power violence songs are often no more than 1 minute long, and are at times as short as 20 seconds long. Power Violence was pioneered in the 80's, from bands such as Infest, and Siege. It had it's greatest explosion in the early 90's, often refered to as the second wave of power violence, containing bands such as **** on the Beach, Charles Bronson, and Spazz. Bands such as Capitalist Casualties, Man Is the Bastard, and No Comment were called the first wave of power violence.

Scabies 11-27-2005 05:33 PM

the blastbeat thing is wikipedia. figured you out dave haha.


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