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Dancin' Man 01-28-2005 12:44 PM

From me on IM or Slsk.

Locks 01-28-2005 12:48 PM

sweet, sorry didnt notice in the original post

Locks 01-28-2005 12:59 PM

Sorry guys, Pcs being a cunt and for sum reason eveythin is goin all screwy on me so I'll have to pass this one on - and I had really good ****in song to suggest as well....................**** this cruel machine world!!!!!

Dancin' Man 01-29-2005 09:55 AM

tr3h b00mp

bowlingforpoop 01-29-2005 10:44 AM

[QUOTE=Fast Fingers][b]Dimmu Borgir - In Death's Embrace[/b]

Begins very well with some great drums and a blended guitar and then the keyboard. The keyboard is killer. They don't sound cheesy, they sound like a real piano.
[/QUOTE]


thats because it is a real piano

LeperAffinity 01-29-2005 10:46 AM

Dibs.

Dancin' Man 01-29-2005 10:48 AM

[QUOTE=bowlingforpoop]thats because it is a real piano[/QUOTE]

I kind of doubt it. It's much easier to record a high quality keyboard than a real piano.

AEDICULA 01-29-2005 11:13 AM

what is going on here?
good song by twenty inch burial...
[url]http://www.twentyinchburial.com/twentyinchburial%20mp3/20ib_octopus.mp3[/url]
metal gore emo

LeperAffinity 01-29-2005 11:16 AM

For fu[b][i][/b][/i]ck's sake, read the thread before you post.

LeperAffinity 01-29-2005 11:50 AM

Sigh...I had this all completed when the power flashed off. Stupid fu[b][i][/b][/i]cking thing.

[b]Between the Buried and Me - Arsonist[/b]

I was expecting an Atreyu ripoff like most of the other metalcore bands, but they caught me off guard. Not saying they're completely different, but at least they aren't just another clone. It starts off with some melodeath-ish riffing before the vocals come in. This is my biggest problem with the band. The singer uses two types of vocals...screams and growls. For the screaming, it sounds like he's doing his best to impersonate Tomas Lindberg, but fails miserably on all counts. Every word sounds forced and unnatural. The growling is worse...he's trying to get that guttural incoherent growl that Lord Worm does so well, but it ultimately comes off sounding like a burp with no energy at all behind it. The guitar work is average, and there's an okay solo thrown in there, nothing special. And of course, there are two obligatory breakdowns that do nothing to further the song.

5/10 I give them credit for not sounding like all the other metalcore bands out there, and for not having whiny emo-ish lyrics, but the vocals annoy me to no end. The rest of the band is average at best.


Deeds of Flesh - Infested Beneath the Earth(brutal death metal)
Leviathan - Sardoniscorn(raw black metal)
Behexen - Black Metal Baptism(raw black metal)
Karl Sanders - Luring the Doom Serpent(Egyptian instrumental)

AIM - BlkMetalDeviant

Dancin' Man 01-29-2005 11:59 AM

dibs

Dancin' Man 01-29-2005 01:18 PM

[b]Karl Sanders - Luring the Doom Serpent[/b]

No idea what to expect since I can't hear the notes in Nile.

Begins with some sort of drum thing. Then other more normal sounding drums join. Then an acoustic guitar playing a very cool very melodic riff with a cool pick rake going on. The next riff is less cool but still cool. A gong in there too.

Then we go back to Riff #1 with a guitar solo like thing above. I like how it's all acoustic. The guitarist is good. His part is even better. The drums add a lot of atmoshpere. THen the two guitars do a sort of duel. It is awesome. Everything is so well intertwined. I like the scale being used a lot too. There is a weird hiss in there.

I would love to hear this man find a happy medium between this and Nile. Less brutal than Nile but still metal and with long instrumental and atmospheric stuff like this. It is awesome.

10/10

Watch Me Fall - Silent Aeons (melodic death metal)
Katatonia - Will I Arrive (progressive metal)
Between the Buried and Me - Mordecai (technical death/emo/metalcore)
Vader - Choices (death metal)
Borknagar - Ad Noctum (Progressive Black metal)
Mastodon - Iron Tusk (unclassifiable Metal)
Novembre - Tales From a Winter to Come (Progressive death metal) <If you haven't heard this, try to get it first.

Slsk: Fast Fingers
AIM: Viking Vs Pirate

i am the robots 01-29-2005 01:31 PM

[U]Mastadon - Iron Tusk[/U]

It starts off with a nice drum roll, then goes into a nice heavy guitar intro, that reminds me of Adema's [I]Unstable[/I], the singer joins in with a shoating technique that is also similar to Chavez' but deeper, and less whiney. The verse continues with a nice heavy powerchord production and nice shoated vocals. There is then another verse within the same pattern, and then it goes off into a similar yet much heavier and darker progression. At about 2:50 there is a solo, that leads into a nice heavy bridge and then the chorus again. The most stand out part of the song would probably be the drumming.

Over all I'd give this a 7/10, the vocals in most Mastadon songs are pretty good, but the voice is kinda lacking.

My choices:

Dark Tranquility - Punish My Heaven (gothenburg)
In Flames - Jotun (gothenburg)
Opeth - Bleak (progressive death metal)
Kalmah - Using The Word (power death metal)
Taproot - Justice Is Blindfolded (nu-metal)
Slipknot - Gently (MFKR Version) (nu-metal-ish)
Linkin Park - Carousel (nu-metal)

Dancin' Man 01-29-2005 01:47 PM

Are you serious? This is the worst review I've seen in a long time. Redo it. Look at how other people do them and try to go a bit more in depth. Also, add more recommendations because I own both of those albums.

i am the robots 01-29-2005 03:43 PM

I didn't have time, sorry i mean to edit it.

Dancin' Man 01-29-2005 03:52 PM

Still heard them all.

CaptainWaits 01-29-2005 04:11 PM

I guess I'll dibs elevnteens

CaptainWaits 01-29-2005 04:28 PM

[U][B]In Flames - Jotun[/B][/U]

0:00 - 0:34... Great beggining to the song. I love the melodies the guitarists play, and the drummer puts in a well fit double-bass here.

0:35 - 1:25... This is where the verse, pre-chorus, and chorus is. The vocals start out with the dude talking (kind of lame), then he starts to do his singing (or so it is called) which is overall alright. Good chorus.

1:26 - 2:03... There's a boring part here that lasts for about 20 seconds, then it leads back into the intro part where the good guitar melodies are.

2:04 - 2:56... Bascially the same thing is here as was in the 0:35 - 1:25 mark.

2:57 - 3:56(End)... The song ends of with dfifferent sequences that were previously played at places in the song. The last about 12 seconds are just the guitars fading to end the song.

Overall, it's a good In Flames song. Similar to stuff off of "The Jester Race", which is when In Flames were actually good. I enjoy the Melodies, as I always do in In Flames' work. I've only ever heard "Gyroscope" off of this album, and this song is just as good, so maybe I'll look into it.

8/10


[U][I]Recommendations[/I][/U]

[B]Amorphis - Into Hiding[/B] (Death/Doom Metal. Very creative and artsy)
[B]Dimmu Borgir - Mourning Palace[/B] (Symphonic Death Metal. A lot of variety in this song)
[B]Kataklysm - Ill Diavolo In Me[/B] (Flat out Technical Death Metal. Fast Drumming)
[B]Symphony X - Of Sins and Shadows[/B] (Progressive Power Metal)

evil ernie 01-29-2005 05:07 PM

dibs

evil ernie 01-29-2005 06:10 PM

[U]Amorphis - Into Hiding[/U]

I have heard a few Amorphis songs before, and I really like their later stuff best (Alone, The Way, Morningstar, etc.). I have already heard the song Black Winter Day, which I enjoyed a little, but not that much, so I have never tried any other song from their death metal era, until today.

The song starts with a really good chord progression and a great melody, along with a slow paced drum beat. A lot of emotion in that intro, starts really good. Only 16 seconds of this riff and they shift to a more intriguing part, I presume things are gonna get heavier soon. At 0:32 the voice comes in with a not so convincing first growl, should be more frightening. The riff is really killer though, reminds me of some Testament riffage, a little slower though. They keep doing this riff a little longer, adding double kick and some arabic sounding synth, very interesting part. The first verse starts after a very good 1:16 introduction. I don't like the growls, I think they lack attack and clarity. They sound way too far in the mix. Wish Akerfeldt or Swano would sing that part. The riff is good and I really like the guitar melody, but I don't like it's sound. The rythm guitar sound heavy and thick, but the lead guitar sound is flat and thin. At 2:00 there's a clean sung part, pretty nice, but I would have prefered a higher pitched and more powerful voice, maybe a female voice would sound great there. Short instrumental passage at about 2:30, same remarks concerning the guitar sound. At 2:42 begins the last vocal bit. At 2:58 there's a nice new slow paced headbanging riff leading into some kind of a bass solo, very interesting but really really short. The end.

All in all I really enjoyed the song, more then I anticipated. I like the guitar work a lot and the overall feeling of the song. The sound and the production of the song isn't doing justice to the great songwriting. I also don't like the vocals that much. The song is very dense and rich, but under developped. 3:45 is a rather short duration for a song containing that much musical ideas.

I'll give it a 7/10, but it could easily have been a ten with better production quality and vox.

[U]Up for grabs :[/U]

Ayreon - Day 20 : confrontation (massive prog project featuring a lot of singers such as James Labrie, Mikeal Akerfeldt, Irene Jansen, Magnus Elkwall, etc.)
After Forever - Beautiful Emptiness (kinda goth and power, with a male grunter and a female soprano)
Symphony X - Of Sins and Shadows (progressive power metal)
Lost Horizon - Cry of a Restless Soul (kick *** power metal)
Adagio - Next Profundis (progressive neo-classical metal)

Permanent Solution 01-29-2005 07:11 PM

Do you have a source for the files?

evil ernie 01-29-2005 08:20 PM

I have em all, can send them through msn or hotmail.

Devil Inferno 01-30-2005 01:46 AM

dibs

[b]Lost Horizon - Cry Of a restless soul[/b] 8:22

Horrible intro. Its too abrupt, but after a few seconds, the introduction forms well.

The narrating at 0:24 gives a break to the sudden intro, and the song picks up from here. The band does well with the main riff, and the symphonic background is abosolutely gorgeous. at 1:05, the guitarist does some crazy power metal palm muting, sending energy into the listener's ears. Shortly after vocals do your power metal scream (read : balls in vice).

Verse kicks in, the verse lacks energy, the vocals need more energy, but technically, everything is co-ordinated well. This part here has everything, but lacks emotion.

The entire song is pretty much the same, i expected more from Lost horizon. its not bad, very good infact, but something is lacking, that power metal energy, the emotion. otherwise, everything else is great.

6.5/10

Suggestions

Sonata Arctica - Wolf And Raven (super melodic power metal)
Dark Lunacy - Frozen Memory (Symphonic Death Metal)
Heavenly - Kingdom Come (power metal)
Dragonforce - Dawn Of a New world (supersonic power metal, this is a ballad however)

evil ernie 01-30-2005 02:43 AM

[QUOTE=Devil Inferno]Shortly after vocals do your power metal scream (read : balls in vice).[/QUOTE]


Balls. That really is what Daniel's singing is all about.

psychoticreflex 01-30-2005 08:24 AM

dibs

psychoticreflex 01-30-2005 10:00 AM

[B]DragonForce - Dawn Of A New World[/B]
After the piano starts with a melodic intro, the voice enters and add a nice and warm tone to this ballad. The chords on the piano ring as the louder of the instruments of the band as ZP Theart starts singing with the DragonForce characteristic voice. The rest flows, as the guitars enter with distortion, making the song sound epic, and even warmer. But it's short, and very well applied, and now the guitars fade away, for another remarkable piano pad/voice duet, now with the drums adding some rhythm marking to the music.
The overdriven guitars enter again, and the song reaches a nice climax, and as ZP sings the chorus, the guitars confer a nice rhythm to it. The bridge, which is almost as long as a chorus, has a continuous lyric as well as continuous warm guitar sound, which will most probably warm up your heart, according to the well-known DragonForce' sound style. Then it comes the Li solo part, which will most probably cause the listener to have a shiver down the spine. The exclusively Li's part ends, because Vadim, soloing, enters, and follows Herman on a beautiful epic-style conclusion to the short solo section of the music. The solo is short, but fits just PERFECTLY into Dawn Of a New World. Probably one of the best solos i've heard. Every ending brings another beginning, and as the solos end, the voice enters again, with a marvelling background vocal section.
Then, it all stops, not too suddenly, because the piano goes on, and Theart's voice with effects, sounds pretty well. Well it's a short break, but then it starts again with the nice tone, and they augment the tune, so, now, the whole song is probably lifted up one or two steps, that reminds me of something similar happening on the end of Hollow Years (Dream Theater). It gives an even nicer tone to the song to finish.
And it's the end of a beautiful epic song. The lyrics fit perfectly as it's an use of DragonForce music style.

And once again, they made a beautiful song, without being too repetitive, like other bands, or in other way, being way over technician.

So, I guess it's a pretty good result, and a well spent effort from their part.

My ratings for this song would be (to make it easier for me, i'll put it list-like):

[I]- Vocals - 9.5/10
- Instrumental - 10/10
- Lyrics -10/10[/I]

So, the whole, i guess, deserves pretty well a 10/10.

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Suggestions:

[B]Dream Theater - Take The Time[/B] (Progressive Rock/Metal);
[B]Liquid Tension Experiment - Kindred Spirits[/B] (Prog. Fusion);
[B]Porcupine Tree - Signify[/B] (Prog. Rock);
[B]Rudess/Morgenstein Project - Over The Edge[/B] (Keyboard & Drum Project);
[B]Children Of Bodom - Touch Like Angel Of Death[/B] (Speed/Power Metal);
[B]Audioslave - We Got The Whip[/B] (Rock);

Devil Inferno 01-31-2005 01:50 AM

glad you like that song, its one of my favorites.

dibs.

Devil Inferno 01-31-2005 02:13 AM

[b]Children of Bodom - touch like an angel of death[/b] (4:05)

intro : lead guitar riff, with then rythmn entering with powerchords and drums. after vocals scream a little, the song builds up, and verse kicks in, an ordinary, standard metal song structure. but at 0:44, theres a mini keyboard solo, and the synths make it sound different. at 0:59, the way the distortion kicks in is great, and it builds back up to the the intensity again, this time making you headbang. the vocals fit quite, even though i don't know why people don't like alexi's vocals at 1:59, it starts going a little crazy and everything speeds up, obviously, the lead and drums. the double bass are quite sloppy compared to nicholas barker, and mithras's drummer., but solid enough for me. random pinch harmonics here and there are great, but needs more piercing attack. then the solo comes in. a great solo, sometimes rock sounding, then goes into crazy scaling, i think i heard an apreggio too. then it slows down to the keyboard part, and distortion comes in again. well, i expected more from bodom, this song lacks energy from the rythmn guitars. especially the palm muting of bass strings. the guitars are too "sythnesized", they need to be more like metallicas', sharp and screaming.

Suggestions

Alice Cooper - Poison (supposedly, glam rock/metal)
Nightwish - Know why the nightingale sings (opera symphonic power metal)
Judas Priest - Rock hard ride free (heavy metal)
Blind Guardian - Into The Storm (Power metal)

Bartender 01-31-2005 07:52 AM

[QUOTE=Bartender]Forced Listening threads always seem to survive independent of stickies - if not, then there's not point them existing, so no, I don't think it should be.



Got to give 56Kers a chance.

I think it'd also be good for people to at least look at a couple of reviews in [url=http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92332]the original thread[/url], to see how they should be done.

And please, it'd be nice to keep this thread as clear of non-reviews/dibs/bumps as possible as possible.[/QUOTE]

I just got neg repped for this post. Random.

DI - if you can gmail me one of those songs, or host it somewhere for me to download, I'll be able to take dibs. Otherwise, bump.

EDIT: Never mind, he just went offline.

Devil Inferno 02-01-2005 04:59 AM

instant messagers? i don't do gmail.


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