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TojesDolan 09-28-2006 05:07 PM

Look Your Last Upon The Sun (Opeth) was alright.

Eternal Thread Torture?

wtf

Anyway... "Lead my way into the thread"

you know Master's Apprentices...

<_<
>_>
<_<

*Hides*

Jude 09-28-2006 05:34 PM

I'm glad I thought of the title for the Porcupine Tree thread. It makes me all happy every time I click on it.

UpperDecker 09-28-2006 05:41 PM

[QUOTE=twilighter;13345988]I'm going to be hated for this, but I just don't like Opeth. I beleive the first song I heard by them was "In Mist She Was Standing" as well.. but.. I didn't like it. Maybe I'm just listening to the wrong songs.[/QUOTE]

They are an acquired taste. I didn't like death metal at first but after a while its not all that crazy anymore and its just normal music to me. I think thats probably the case (even though there not really pure death metal). I don't think I'd enjoy a 15 minute song by any band the first time around.

TojesDolan 09-28-2006 05:44 PM

Nah it's OK, we accept all peoples.

*refers to the quote*

*puts axe away*

Ergh, anyway maybe you began with the wrong song. Orchid is mostly approachable to those familiar with Gothenburg metal, but some albums like Damnation is good for general Rock fans, and Blackwater Park is good to begin with, period.

Shattered_Future 09-28-2006 06:01 PM

[QUOTE=TojesDoLan;13346055]Look Your Last Upon The Sun (Opeth) was alright.

Eternal Thread Torture?

wtf

Anyway... "Lead my way into the thread"

you know Master's Apprentices...

<_<
>_>
<_<

*Hides*[/QUOTE]

Sounds dirty. :smash:

BWP is an EXCELLENT album to start with for Opeth.

TojesDolan 09-28-2006 06:03 PM

It has the right balance between softer and harder moments. It battles with Still Life for that place, but BWP is just more consistent in particular moments. Still Life is consistent, period.

Maybe it clicks faster with BWP than SL.

lightningmetal666 09-28-2006 06:12 PM

[QUOTE=twilighter;13345988]I'm going to be hated for this, but I just don't like Opeth. I beleive the first song I heard by them was "In Mist She Was Standing" as well.. but.. I didn't like it. Maybe I'm just listening to the wrong songs.[/QUOTE]



Blackwater Park or Damnation would be some good Opeth albums for getting into them.

On blackwater park, check out the song The Drapery falls. It has some of the best sounding clean vocals ever. (IMO)

Nostalgia 09-28-2006 06:13 PM

[QUOTE]The Drapery falls. It has some of the best sounding clean vocals ever. [/QUOTE]

Yeah, those vocals are so amazing.

lightningmetal666 09-28-2006 06:15 PM

[QUOTE=SilentScream;13346432]Yeah, those vocals are so amazing.[/QUOTE]

It just seems so weird that a guy that can sing like that can do a 'bout face and give some grinding DM vocals. It can really throw a person off.:p

TojesDolan 09-28-2006 06:28 PM

Yeah.

Dirge for November is also like [size=1]mellow[/size] then rock and roll and [size=3]WoAh MetAlL!L[/size].

lightningmetal666 09-28-2006 06:32 PM

[QUOTE=TojesDoLan;13346547]Yeah.

Dirge for November is also like [size=1]mellow[/size] then rock and roll and [size=3]WoAh MetAlL!L[/size].[/QUOTE]

I've been trying to learn BWP (song) on guitar and I have to admit, it isn't easy. The first few riffs are really fun to play though.:thumb:

Anglachel 09-28-2006 07:03 PM

[QUOTE=Jude;13346201]I'm glad I thought of the title for the Porcupine Tree thread. It makes me all happy every time I click on it.[/QUOTE]
I like having come up with the Moonsorrow thread title....I know I probably should of just said Moonsorrow, but that would look boring.

lightningmetal666 09-28-2006 07:17 PM

[QUOTE=Anglachel;13346828]I like having come up with the Moonsorrow thread title....I know I probably should of just said Moonsorrow, but that would look boring.[/QUOTE]

I think that threadtitle thing is just overdone. There are some really good ones, but to me, they're just too cheesy.

Nostalgia 09-28-2006 07:35 PM

Pun titles were so '05. God, keep up, guys.

lightningmetal666 09-28-2006 07:42 PM

[QUOTE=SilentScream;13347038]Pun titles were so '05. God, keep up, guys.[/QUOTE]

Will do.:thumb:

Any clue as to what the '07 trend will be like? j/k.

Nostalgia 09-28-2006 07:45 PM

Haha, nope, not yet.

Toaster 09-28-2006 08:55 PM

[QUOTE=lightningmetal666;13346443]It just seems so weird that a guy that can sing like that can do a 'bout face and give some grinding DM vocals. It can really throw a person off.:p[/QUOTE]

The weirdest is how, normally, a metal singer who growls or whatever will have a raspy singing voice. And when metal singers introduce song titles, or talk to their audience, they typically put on a "metal voice", you know, the raspy, tough-sounding voice of strongmen. But Mikael has the smoothest singing voice.. not the barest hint of raspiness in there.

Eliminator 09-28-2006 08:58 PM

That's because he's the [I]man[/I].

Riziger 09-28-2006 11:58 PM

eyyyy.....I'm thinking of picking up a Opeth album sometime soon. I've already got a lot of their tracks and IMO I think they sound better in their slower songs where Mikael actually sings.

Which album shud i get based on these? I've heard Ghost Reveries is their softest?

Kage 09-29-2006 12:00 AM

Eh, it depends. If you still want some heavier songs that have a lot of the clean singing and soft parts, and you're willing to live with the growls, get Still Life and Blackwater Park. If you don't want any of the harsh vocals or heavy parts, Damnation is nothing but soft songs with clean singing. Ghost Reveries has a lot of singing on it too.

Det_Nosnip 09-29-2006 02:57 AM

[QUOTE=Toaster;13347499]The weirdest is how, normally, a metal singer who growls or whatever will have a raspy singing voice. And when metal singers introduce song titles, or talk to their audience, they typically put on a "metal voice", you know, the raspy, tough-sounding voice of strongmen. But Mikael has the smoothest singing voice.. not the barest hint of raspiness in there.[/QUOTE]

Another great example of an "about face" kind of singer is Ihsahn from Emperor...that guy can belt out an operatic ballad like there's no tomorrow, and the dynamic range he was able to employ with his voice on "The Pain Is Still Mine" off of the Adversary (his solo record) is pretty stunning.

Tyr 09-29-2006 05:14 AM

Ihsahn is great.

pate 09-29-2006 08:34 AM

...and The Adversary is great.

VomitStainedCretin 09-29-2006 12:08 PM

[QUOTE=Det_Nosnip;13348988]Another great example of an "about face" kind of singer is Ihsahn from Emperor...that guy can belt out an operatic ballad like there's no tomorrow, and the dynamic range he was able to employ with his voice on "The Pain Is Still Mine" off of the Adversary (his solo record) is pretty stunning.[/QUOTE]

Another song with an amazing vocal performance from Ihsahn is Elegy for Icarus off IX Equilibrium. I love how he rolls his eyes in the video for Empty. :smoke:

Det_Nosnip 09-29-2006 01:31 PM

Hehe. :lol:

Shattered_Future 09-29-2006 02:08 PM

Flying hospital beds ftw. :smash:

Ihsahn AND Akefeldt are 2 people of this generation of music who I could consider luminaries. Both write original, absolutely stunning music.

pate 09-29-2006 02:26 PM

Damn right :chug:

Stormrider 09-29-2006 02:43 PM

[QUOTE=pate;13349372]...and The Adversary is great.[/QUOTE]

I havn't heard his solo stuff.

But then again, I've only heard one Emperor album, which is really, really good.

pate 09-29-2006 02:44 PM

I'd say The Adversary is on par with any Emperor album, other than Anthems, which cannot be topped.

Stormrider 09-29-2006 02:45 PM

I have In the Nightside Eclipse. As I mentioned before, I absolutely love it.

pate 09-29-2006 02:46 PM

Wow. You need to give Anthems a shot then. ITNE is great, but Anthems is a top 5 metal album period.

Stormrider 09-29-2006 02:48 PM

Hmm, I'll check it out then. Is it still Black Metal ?

Nostalgia 09-29-2006 02:50 PM

Anthems is a great album. I can barely hear the vocals though - they're so high-pitched.

Shadows 09-29-2006 02:53 PM

Akerfeldt is definitely one of the two modern luminaries, but Vladimir Cochet makes Ihsahn look like a 12 year old trying to make metal. That man is a genious.

Crysiss 09-29-2006 03:00 PM

I like how you sneak Akerfeldt into the Opeth thread. I come in here sometimes, but theres seldom any discussions id like to indulge in.

TojesDolan 09-29-2006 03:07 PM

[QUOTE=Crysiss;13350619]I like how you sneak Akerfeldt into the Opeth thread. I come in here sometimes, but theres seldom any discussions id like to indulge in.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I feel a bit stupid discussing Opeth in the Opeth thread now lololol.

Crysiss 09-29-2006 03:11 PM

I do. Seriously.

lightningmetal666 09-29-2006 03:22 PM

[QUOTE=TojesDoLan;13350654]Yeah I feel a bit stupid discussing Opeth in the Opeth thread now lololol.[/QUOTE]

Shame on you for staying on topic.:p

Det_Nosnip 09-29-2006 08:29 PM

Opeth are one of those bands that I feel like the more I learn about them/study, the more unique I find them to be. The "Lepar Affinity" is a wonderful example - I'm not sure I can think of anything remotely like it outside of the Opeth discography...the kinds of emotional devices the band uses, what serve as the hooks, leads, riffs...it blows my mind how someone could write like that. To make dissonance sound so beautiful...:eek:

A newbie posted a while back about how he liked Opeth's "orchestrations" or something akin to that. We kinda gave him **** for it, but if you really think about it...there is an almost dark orchestral quality to the compositions, albeit played (for the most part) on standard rock/metal instruments. I could see some of Opeth's material sounding amazing in a symphonic format.

Eliminator 09-29-2006 08:30 PM

I find dissonance in general to be beautiful.


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