[QUOTE=peacesells1256]haha,, whatever man, i was just curious to see if it was you, ill see you tomarwo morning(also all the people in wood are posers and hate music, an u wuld never find them on heer)[/QUOTE]

ya i guess thats true

[QUOTE=gocaps99]Is Cliff 'Em All just like S&M??? It's just a concert? Or is it like a bunch of Cliff concert footage?

The Fade to Black solo from a few months ago was really amazing. It's the outro solo that bugged me.

1) i didn't hear a thing, da[COLOR=White]mn[/COLOR] top level
2) WAH PEDAL
3) why does he play a different solo every time? there's a reason it's rated 26 on the best solos ever, cuz it kicked as[COLOR=White]s[/COLOR].[/QUOTE]

Cliff 'em All is a bunch of different concerts and footage of Cliff and the band at the time. The Wah on the outro solo to Fade to Black ruins it live, IMO. It is a great solo on the recorded version, without the un-needed wah.

[QUOTE=TheChoSenOnes]Cliff 'em All is a bunch of different concerts and footage of Cliff and the band at the time. The Wah on the outro solo to Fade to Black ruins it live, IMO. It is a great solo on the recorded version, without the un-needed wah.[/QUOTE]

Seriously. Even I can play that solo. If the greatest metal guitarist ever (IMO) can't play his own solo completely like the original or better, than what is this world coming to???

[QUOTE=gocaps99]Well I don't really give much credit to shredders like Yngwie, except I give tons of credit to Hammett. None of his solos in the songs are shredding except solos like Sanitarium. Kirk really has variation and different notes and tones and that's why I think he's one of the best guitarists ever. Not just because of speed, but because of his writing and variation and speed and creativity[/QUOTE]
Thats the great thing about Kirk, he CAN shred and rip notes like Michael Angelo or Petrucci, but he doesn't because hes not an attention whore and he knows in the end, its just a bunch of wanking off on the guitar. The solo sounds terrible of Live **** San Diego if you hear it without the video, because thats what shredding is. Its just showing off and showing your fast skill, but I can't ever imagine listening to it.

ps. Sanitarium doesn't use shredding. Its a patterned alternative picking thats relativley easy, and it sounds good so it doesn't count. Something like Dyers Eve could be called shredding.

so i guess you saw all the things i posted...

[QUOTE=gocaps99]Seriously. Even I can play that solo. If the greatest metal guitarist ever (IMO) can't play his own solo completely like the original or better, than what is this world coming to???[/QUOTE]
Of course Kirk can play it like the original, but it adds so much more exitment and diversity to their concerts if they play it differently each time. If you think of it, almost every song they play is different live than recording (save some like Enter Sandman), because staying the same all the time just doesn't suit Metallica. Throw in a bunch of randomness and the crowds go insane. What would be the point of giong to their concerts for 20 years if they play the same thing again and again.

[QUOTE=gocaps99]Seriously. Even I can play that solo. If the greatest metal guitarist ever (IMO) can't play his own solo completely like the original or better, than what is this world coming to???[/QUOTE]

Exactly. I'm no brilliant guitarist, and that is one of the first solos I learned. I don't know why he feels he needs to use wah on it. It's better the way he wrote it originally.

[QUOTE=high_speed_dirt120]so i guess you saw all the things i posted...[/QUOTE]

Can you stop posting here? Or stick to the megadeth thread until you have something to contribute.

when did you get an account

[QUOTE=metal_milita]Of course Kirk can play it like the original, but it adds so much more exitment and diversity to their concerts if they play it differently each time. If you think of it, almost every song they play is different live than recording (save some like Enter Sandman), because staying the same all the time just doesn't suit Metallica. Throw in a bunch of randomness and the crowds go insane. What would be the point of giong to their concerts for 20 years if they play the same thing again and again.[/QUOTE]

No, I'm not talking about him playing it differently. I'm talking about for when he plays it like the recorded and uses the wah pedal. I think it's cool when he plays it a little different, but I think it would sound better wah-less

[QUOTE=metal_milita]Of course Kirk can play it like the original, but it adds so much more exitment and diversity to their concerts if they play it differently each time. If you think of it, almost every song they play is different live than recording (save some like Enter Sandman), because staying the same all the time just doesn't suit Metallica. Throw in a bunch of randomness and the crowds go insane. What would be the point of giong to their concerts for 20 years if they play the same thing again and again.[/QUOTE]

Therefore all the bands that play what they did on the record live, are boring? I would still go to their shows if they played the same thing live as they did on the recording. I don't go to a concert to hear something I've never heard before, I go to hear an awesome band play songs off of their CD's that I think are cool.

[QUOTE=TheChoSenOnes]Therefore all the bands that play what they did on the record live, are boring? I would still go to their shows if they played the same thing live as they did on the recording. I don't go to a concert to hear something I've never heard before, I go to hear an awesome band play songs off of their CD's that I think are cool.[/QUOTE]
... Then I can do nothing but disagree with you.

[QUOTE=high_speed_dirt120]when did you get an account[/QUOTE]

look...i dont know, right next to "join date" ?????


2000th POST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

/not spam, im going to say more

[QUOTE]Therefore all the bands that play what they did on the record live, are boring? I would still go to their shows if they played the same thing live as they did on the recording. I don't go to a concert to hear something I've never heard before, I go to hear an awesome band play songs off of their CD's that I think are cool.[/QUOTE]

I like the fact he uses some variation on some solos from the recording, just not when he changes it completely.

Or like when he does the same solo live every time. Like on Nothing Else Matters he uses the same solo every single time. It's different than from the album, but it's always the same live

[QUOTE=gocaps99]No, I'm not talking about him playing it differently. I'm talking about for when he plays it like the recorded and uses the wah pedal. I think it's cool when he plays it a little different, but I think it would sound better wah-less[/QUOTE]
Understatment of the year, I want to throw his wah-wah away.

ps. one post away from hitting 2,000 kudos

always had one , jus never used it :thumb:

[QUOTE=peacesells1256]always had one , jus never used it :thumb:[/QUOTE]

oh cool

[QUOTE=gocaps99]I like the fact he uses some variation on some solos from the recording, just not when he changes it completely.

Or like when he does the same solo live every time. Like on Nothing Else Matters he uses the same solo every single time. It's different than from the album, but it's always the same live[/QUOTE]

oic.

His logic didn't make sense.

Thats actually a cool idea, to have a live version and a recorded version... as long as they are consistent.

I think you two need to stop talking about this before you two get banned. Take this to an AIM or MSN Chatroom

it's midnight, school tomorrow (well, today). goodnight guys

[QUOTE=gocaps99]I think you two need to stop talking about this before you two get banned. Take this to an AIM or MSN Chatroom

it's midnight, school tomorrow (well, today). goodnight guys[/QUOTE]

Later. :wave:

Yes, take it to the AIM chat. If you don't already have one go to [url]http://www.aim.com[/url] and download it. If you keep making completely unrelated posts, you will be banned.

So now that we have basically come to a conclusion that Kirk uses too much wah, what is a time when the wah is good?

I'm kind of blanking right now, but I think there are some times when it added a lot to his solo.

Allright, I am out too I guess. Later.

:wave:

[QUOTE=gocaps99]^^since there hasn't been a new topic in awhile, ill bring one up from the 100s pages


I haven't really heard him sing very much. CLiff and Jason were both ok. They sang Seek and Destroy, i'm pretty sure. Cliff on KEA and Jason on Live Sh*t. And now it's all james, i don't think rob sings[/QUOTE]

Kirk is a terrible singer, he sang backup when i saw them in concert. His best effort is basically to growl somewhat on key, but it just came off as humorous i thought, but w/e, he's not a singer.

kirk has a weak a$$ voice. id rather robert sing,he looks like he has a deep voice.although ive never heard him talk.

Yeah, Kirk was singing backing vocals when I saw them and he wasn't very good. Someone told me that Rob normally sings backing vocals but he had a sore throat or something the day I saw them.

[QUOTE=willis2441]kirk has a weak a$$ voice. id rather robert sing,he looks like he has a deep voice.although ive never heard him talk.[/QUOTE]

yea kirk sounds like a fa[COLOR=White]g[/COLOR] and rob sounds like a normal guy. and kirk does the back up on St. Anger. he's the one who says "flush it out" on the song St.Anger

lol, kirk sounds gay as on the s&m documentary lol

'haha, no i didnt think we would play with the symphony ever'

gay gay gay gay

on the topic of back vocals... i like Jasons backing vocals the best

i like how Jason does the vocals on the last chorus of Creeping death everytime/sometimes when they play it on concert

So let it be written
So let it be done
I'm sent here by the chosen one
So let it be written
So let it be done
To kill the first born pharaoh son
I'm creeping death(James does the creeping death)

yeyeyeahhwooo

I also like how Jason does all of the screaming during the first two verses. It makes it sound really cool.

What about 'Whiplash'? I dig.

jason's best singing is on live s[I][U][/U][/I]hit' when he sings whiplash, sounds mint

jason smashin that violin on s&m was hilarious