[QUOTE=Eliminator;13290531]And the interviewer is like "Uh... okay".[/QUOTE]


Judging from the way these chords sound and the way they fit together, I at first thought that Opeth were like kings of music theory. Damn, was I wrong. :p

I <3 Mikael and Bass especially.

[QUOTE=pate;13290589]I <3 Mikael and Bass especially.[/QUOTE]

Mikael is a pretty funny guy.

I loved his comment on nature when I recently saw them at Gigantour.

[I]Hello, friends. It's beautiful here in Southern California. All the pretty trees and scenery. But no one really gives a damn about nature anymore. Neither do we. We just want to play some tunes for you, so let's get this damn thing over with[/I]

:lol:

So... I saw all 8 Opeth albums in the one shop today... "Music Zone" in Glasgow. It was such a wonderful sight to see. And they had like 4/5 copies of each one, it was f[SIZE="2"]u[/SIZE]cking awesome.

Pity I own them all.

Although I had the urge to buy them all again, purely because I could.

:smoke:

[QUOTE=lightningmetal666;13290507]Yeah, just take all that music theory that you learned, throw it out the window, then start writing. :p

I was watching the guitar lesson on how they played/wrote my fav. Opeth song The Drapery Falls and when he was asked what this chord is:

e|-0-|
b|-0-|
g|-5-|
d|-7-|
a|-6-|
e|---|


He said, " I don't know what this chord is, it just sounds cool." :lol:[/QUOTE]
That's simply an Amadd9 with a D# in the bass. A great voicing though.

[QUOTE=lightningmetal666;13290617]Mikael is a pretty funny guy.

I loved his comment on nature when I recently saw them at Gigantour.

[I]Hello, friends. It's beautiful here in Southern California. All the pretty trees and scenery. But no one really gives a damn about nature anymore. Neither do we. We just want to play some tunes for you, so let's get this damn thing over with[/I]

:lol:[/QUOTE]

I give a damn about nature.

Opeth > nature.

I'm listening to mayh for the 75417th time now. Never gets old.

[QUOTE=Eliminator;13291661]Opeth > nature.[/QUOTE]

QFT

Nature is pretty level with Opeth.

[QUOTE=Kage;13291307]That's simply an Amadd9 with a D# in the bass. A great voicing though.[/QUOTE]


That D# is really quite odd though, you must admit. I actually like it better without the bass note. Then again, Opeth are the masters of making dissonance beautiful. :p

the D# sounds odd because it's the tritone. Coupled with the fact that the P5 is still in the chord it is very dissonant.

hmmm, I like Opeth, I like their slower songs more where Mikael actually sings. I think the progression of their songs and stuff sounds really cool.

Theres a vid on youtube where he teaches the crowd some death growls... haha funny.

Seriously, how can anyone not like Black Rose Immortal.

Because it's 20 minutes of purely boring music.

Wtf, BRI is fu[SIZE="2"]c[/SIZE]king awesome.

What's with the Opeth thread BRI hatred. Tonnes of great riffs.

[QUOTE=Symbolic;13293809]Wtf, BRI is fu[SIZE="2"]c[/SIZE]king awesome.

What's with the Opeth thread BRI hatred. Tonnes of great riffs pasted together in a totally random fashion.[/QUOTE]

Fix'd.

[QUOTE]Mikael's growling lessons[/QUOTE]

I was at one of those shows. 'Twas a fun time.

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo;13293302]That D# is really quite odd though, you must admit. I actually like it better without the bass note. Then again, Opeth are the masters of making dissonance beautiful. :p[/QUOTE]
I've never used the D# in the bass either, but I love that voicing of Amadd9, it's great. I use it all the time.

[QUOTE=Kage;13291307]That's simply an Amadd9 with a D# in the bass. A great voicing though.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, that's the Jazz notation of the polychord. The notes (stacked in thirds) are B - D# - (f#) - A - C - E (with the F# omitted). That makes it a B13 in first inversion (D# in the bass); or a V13 of V. It progresses to G#m (G#-b-D#) which is a really weird chord to use(functions as a V with a major 7th in first inversion (E) - G# - B - D#) but it flows nicely into Am . G# pulls to A and D# pulls to E. V chords don't typically have major 7ths, but hey; this ain't Beethoven. :thumb:

Now that the classical rubish is outta the way....it's an Amadd9/D# :P

[QUOTE=pate;13294057]Fix'd.[/QUOTE]

Isn't that how most songs are written?

They have riffs. They "paste" them together...

I'm sure 20 minutes of the same riff would be great.

[QUOTE=Symbolic;13294439]Isn't that how most songs are written?

They have riffs. They "paste" them together...

I'm sure 20 minutes of the same riff would be great.[/QUOTE]

Uh, sometimes bands don't use riffs at all. And sometimes, bands keep the riffs in key so they flow well together, or at least make the changes moving rather than jarring between keys, or to make the song feel like it's going somewhere, rather than just switching between riffs. Which is what BRI feels like, cool riffs though.

Personally I'd pick a well written song, this includes adding the vocals along with the instruments in seemlessly to produce something greater than the sum of it's parts. Preferably all the instruments doing different and interesting things, this includes the vocals.

This to me is great songwriting, especially if the song has tension, and then releases it and the song actually goes somewhere. A collection of riffs is rarely guaranteed to have this effect, and is not necesserally good songwriting, no matter how good the individual parts are.

[QUOTE=Symbolic;13294439]Isn't that how most songs are written?

They have riffs. They "paste" them together...

I'm sure 20 minutes of the same riff would be great.[/QUOTE]


Many songs, especially Opeth songs, have riffs "pasted" together in a flowing fashion, with some direction, unlike BRI.

[QUOTE=Eliminator;13293727]Because it's 20 minutes of purely boring music.[/QUOTE]

Whaaatttttttt. I wish Opeth would make more songs like BRI!

I wish they would make more songs with parts as amazing and enchanting as BRI, but I much prefer the more fluid and sensible songwriting style of, say, The Moor.

True. I just like the whole idea of "epic Opeth" songs.

Most Opeth songs are epic, I find.

[QUOTE=Jude;13295318]Most Opeth songs are epic, I find.[/QUOTE]

I mean like, Uber epic.:p

Hmmm. MAYH drum beats and Still Life drum beats seem so much... fuller.

Maybe it's the double time cymbal thingies.

Yeah Lopez pretty much blow their old drummer out of the water.

But the main appeal of the old stuff is in the guitar and, on Morningrise, vocal melodies.

I wonder how Axenrot will work with the rest of the band.

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo;13293302]That D# is really quite odd though, you must admit. I actually like it better without the bass note. Then again, Opeth are the masters of making dissonance beautiful. :p[/QUOTE]

That D# is what makes the progression for me, I can't see how you'd like it better without it

Or rather. The D# is what makes it go above being just an awesome progression to being one of the best progressions ever :p

Well obviously the D# is necessasary towards that particular progression. After all, without it, it's a completely different song.

[QUOTE=Kage;13291307]That's simply an Amadd9 with a D# in the bass. A great voicing though.[/QUOTE]
Does that really count as "simply" ? :D

ROFL @ Mikeal. this is from a recent tour update he made about Gigantour.

09.19.06 - MIKAEL ÅKERFELDT OF OPETH CHECKS IN FROM GIGANTOUR

"We're somewhere in the middle of the Gigantour tour and it's alright! I miss home, my daughter and wife!

We aint doing nothing this time around. Not even drinking that much.

Thanks to Chris for giving me a copy of 'Guitar Hero' for the PS2. Man, we're hooked (I suck!). Mendez is the king! We play on expert level and everyone that we show it to have been hooked! My goal is to get [MEGADETH's Dave] Mustaine on the bus and have him play 'Symphony of Destruction' [by MEGADETH], which is included.

When we go on stage for our show myself and Mendez have those ****ing coloured buttons in our heads for our OWN songs! And you can just forget about listening to music anymore. We go... 'That would be a tough passage on hard level even...'

Other than that, nothing's really happening. I've gambled a little bit and guess I'm hooked on that now.

The other bands are very nice. We hang with ARCH ENEMY the most. I've bumped into Mustaine a couple of times and he's been very nice to us! I was up on stage for his birthday in Phoenix which was kinda fun. But his birthday is on the same day as my daughter, so my mind was wondering.

I wanna go home, people, but the shows will be good, so come see us, will ya??"

... The mental image of Mustaine playing Symphony Of Destruction on a ps2 made me laugh

That is amazing.

Wonder why AE and Opeth hang out so much? :smash:

10 days now. :cool:

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future;13297065]Wonder why AE and Opeth hang out so much? :smash:

10 days now. :cool:[/QUOTE]

Because Mikael thinks Angela is HOT HOT HOT! :naughty:

[QUOTE=Darkness;13297149]Because Mikael thinks Angela is HOT HOT HOT! :naughty:[/QUOTE]

I was thinking because they're both Swedish, but I like your logic. :naughty:

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future;13297325]I was thinking because they're both Swedish, but I like your logic. :naughty:[/QUOTE]

Good man. :thumb: :naughty:

Well, that might be true if she wasn't UGLY UGLY UGLY and her "singing" wasn't a huge turnoff.

:p ;) :) :naughty: