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Anitra 07-08-2011 12:53 AM

There is more intelligent dubstep ("wonky"), and you can listen to it longer. Dubstep itself is pretty cool, but becomes boring after 10 tracks or so. It wouldn't happen though if artists experiment with structure, because you can predict when will the wobble start like, always.

Check out the label Planet mu for good dubstep. Also almost anything that Mary Anne Hobbs digs is cool, and Quantum Leap by Slugabed is the best dubstep music video. (Let me know if you know any other great videos, by the way...I'm interested!)

Surf 07-08-2011 04:49 AM

[QUOTE=Anitra;18568891] Dubstep itself is pretty cool, but becomes boring after 10 tracks or so. It wouldn't happen though if artists experiment with structure, because you can predict when will the wobble start like, always.
)[/QUOTE]

because its meant to be mixed, not listened to on an ipod

Deviant. 07-08-2011 06:09 AM

[QUOTE=Anitra;18568891]There is more intelligent dubstep ("wonky"), and you can listen to it longer. Dubstep itself is pretty cool, but becomes boring after 10 tracks or so. It wouldn't happen though if artists experiment with structure, because you can predict when will the wobble start like, always.

Check out the label Planet mu for good dubstep. Also almost anything that Mary Anne Hobbs digs is cool, and Quantum Leap by Slugabed is the best dubstep music video. (Let me know if you know any other great videos, by the way...I'm interested!)[/QUOTE]

What's with all these users coming in here rec'ing really obvious stuff that's existed for years already? Planet Mu. Mary Anne Hobbs. What is this, 2005?

Deviant. 07-08-2011 06:11 AM

[QUOTE=Surf;18568963]because its meant to be mixed, not listened to on an ipod[/QUOTE]

Not at all, and the most obvious answer for that is because artists would never bother releasing albums if that was meant to be the case. If boredom creeps in after a prolonged period that's a problem at the listener's end, and not to do with what format he chose to listen to it with (mix album, 12" or full length LP)

2muchket! 07-08-2011 06:15 AM

[QUOTE=Anitra;18568891]There is more intelligent dubstep ("wonky"), and you can listen to it longer. Dubstep itself is pretty cool, but becomes boring after 10 tracks or so. It wouldn't happen though if artists experiment with structure, because you can predict when will the wobble start like, always.

Check out the label Planet mu for good dubstep. Also almost anything that Mary Anne Hobbs digs is cool, and Quantum Leap by Slugabed is the best dubstep music video. (Let me know if you know any other great videos, by the way...I'm interested!)[/QUOTE]

fuck off non-elite

Surf 07-08-2011 08:29 AM

[QUOTE=Deviant.;18569001]Not at all, and the most obvious answer for that is because artists would never bother releasing albums if that was meant to be the case. If boredom creeps in after a prolonged period that's a problem at the listener's end, and not to do with what format he chose to listen to it with (mix album, 12" or full length LP)[/QUOTE]

i wasn't saying it was boring, more justifying the similar structure that the majority of dubstep (and most dance music) subscribes to.

obviously not all tracks are going to follow the same structure.

but even on full length albums (silkie and kryptic minds are two that come to mind), the tracks follow a similar pattern.

even if its not intentional, the established structure is so established because its intended to be mixed.

Deviant. 07-08-2011 10:31 AM

Again I disagree, especially in regards to full lengths. The reason why most songs fall under a similar structure on a lp is because they're following a consistent theme; it's the individual 12" release where the artist breaks out the most. And its those releases that will ultimately get mixed into a set, the while label promo or the individual release over some mid-range lp track

doubtfully then 07-08-2011 04:44 PM

There is more intelligent dubstep ("wonky")

Surf 07-09-2011 04:15 AM

[QUOTE=Deviant.;18569105]Again I disagree, especially in regards to full lengths. The reason why most songs fall under a similar structure on a lp is because they're following a consistent theme; it's the individual 12" release where the artist breaks out the most. And its those releases that will ultimately get mixed into a set, the while label promo or the individual release over some mid-range lp track[/QUOTE]

but the majority of singles released do follow the same structure. and the majority of tracks on albums follow the same structure.

i'm not saying that everything has to be built the same, nor that the structure has any bearing on the quality of the track. good and bad songs are both structured the same.

put it this way. traditionally, dance music is built on similar structures. house, techno, jungle, whatever, its all usually built in the same style.

because dance music is designed to be mixed. that's why the style exists, to make it easy to mix between songs, to allow djs to readily implement the tunes into their set.

dubstep isn't that new and innovative that it forsakes all this. sure, there's songs that don't follow the traditional structure, ones that break from the mould. but there were in all the other genres of music too.

i'm not saying that the structure holds too much bearing on the artistic merit of the song or that sticking to or breaking from the structure is inherently better.

i'm just explaining why the majority of dubstep songs (and dance tracks in general) follow a similar structure.

club music 07-12-2011 04:40 AM

i like it...:thumb:

club music 07-12-2011 04:41 AM

i like dubstep...

Ventriloquist 07-12-2011 07:15 AM

should I go to Flux Pavillion + Doctor P? :\

yowie 07-12-2011 07:17 AM

yes

2muchket! 07-12-2011 09:25 AM

Flux Pavillion are sweet

Ventriloquist 07-12-2011 10:39 AM

it's 20 bucks for both so idk i'll probably go

Aaron 07-14-2011 05:44 PM

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Deviant. 07-14-2011 11:52 PM

[QUOTE=Surf;18569725]but the majority of singles released do follow the same structure. and the majority of tracks on albums follow the same structure.

i'm not saying that everything has to be built the same, nor that the structure has any bearing on the quality of the track. good and bad songs are both structured the same.

put it this way. traditionally, dance music is built on similar structures. house, techno, jungle, whatever, its all usually built in the same style.

because dance music is designed to be mixed. that's why the style exists, to make it easy to mix between songs, to allow djs to readily implement the tunes into their set.

dubstep isn't that new and innovative that it forsakes all this. sure, there's songs that don't follow the traditional structure, ones that break from the mould. but there were in all the other genres of music too.

i'm not saying that the structure holds too much bearing on the artistic merit of the song or that sticking to or breaking from the structure is inherently better.

i'm just explaining why the majority of dubstep songs (and dance tracks in general) follow a similar structure.[/QUOTE]

I get what you're saying, and I get the feeling that this might have become more than it probably should have been. I agree with everything you've said, but also a lot of songs on one LP will generally always follow a similar pattern because they're all following the theme of that album etc etc

Also, new Machine Drum is ace

HighandDriving 07-20-2011 11:57 AM

Illegal Bass Mash Up (HITD312) [Compilation] (2011)

Good d&B dub comp.

Ventriloquist 07-20-2011 03:31 PM

fuck d&b

Deviant. 07-20-2011 11:41 PM

Fuck no

Aaron 07-21-2011 09:36 AM

[URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JEcj2xi9Ctc[/URL]

PeopleWatchin 07-27-2011 07:53 AM

theyre not too bad...just started listening to them

Deviant. 07-27-2011 08:59 AM

Idk, I think he just did it for the lulz as opposed to potentially trying to take the piss out of the sound

Arucard 07-27-2011 03:27 PM

Dev, have you got any good dnb rec's for me that aren't on your lists as I've heard 90% of that? I've been really digging fanu recently, if you know stuff in a similar vein. Thanks.

Deviant. 07-27-2011 11:21 PM

If you like Fanu have you looked into ASC and Bill Laswell? Tbh, I haven't been keeping up with d & b all that much lately, been listening to too much funky. Those are the first names I can think of, but I can just give you some more recs of just general stuff if you want

Arucard 07-28-2011 08:05 AM

I'll check those out, as I mentioned I've heard most of the stuff you've got in your lists. I'm a bit lost musically at the moment, I've been totally rinsing my prog and deep house collections and I need some new stuff for work :/

yowie 08-03-2011 06:27 AM

[QUOTE=Deviant.;18559121][url]http://www.sputnikmusic.com/list.php?memberid=426967&listid=76203[/url][/QUOTE]

i somehow missed that one, dope

Aaron 08-04-2011 12:55 AM

http://girlsthatlooklikeskrillex.tumblr.com/

JAS54 08-08-2011 11:00 AM

[QUOTE=Aaron;18602550]http://girlsthatlooklikeskrillex.tumblr.com/[/QUOTE]

YES! I think everyone can agree lmfao :p

ava1enzue1a 08-22-2011 09:10 AM

[I]Avenger[/I] by Hecq, due out 9/9/11 [url]http://hymen-records.com/all/y792_2.html[/url]

Drugstep 08-22-2011 09:07 PM

[IMG]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Mvb1qgEvwWE/TMz61BEB8SI/AAAAAAAABL8/b0dtEp6sX4c/s1600/korn-issues1.jpg[/IMG]

Haz 08-22-2011 10:20 PM

are you just gonna post that everywhere

Drugstep 08-22-2011 10:24 PM

i felt it was relevant in light of the upcoming Kornstep release

Aaron 08-28-2011 08:37 PM

[quote=JAS54;18607664]YES! I think everyone can agree lmfao :p[/quote]
I'm 12 and what is this?

nodding 09-05-2011 12:10 AM

do u guys like pariah

LoveTheBass 09-30-2011 03:18 PM

Good Dubstep :)
 
http://www.dubstep.net/featured/Gemini/Graduation_by_Gemini

Gemini.
awesome!

Father_Jack 10-13-2011 01:01 PM

[URL]http://soundcloud.com/skrillex/narcissistic-cannibal-feat[/URL]

Oh no.........

It's actually worse than I thought it would be.

Deviant. 10-13-2011 10:10 PM

Woah, people still posting here


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