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FunkMetalBass 08-18-2010 09:08 AM

[quote=BenJammin;18134943]Just bought one of these:

[IMG]http://lh6.ggpht.com/_dflsm6pay3s/SXRrdnFTD8I/AAAAAAAAAk4/eGoJtitXMKM/Eventide_Pitchfactor.jpg[/IMG][/quote]


Dude, f**king rocks. How do you like it?

gaslight 08-18-2010 09:13 AM

Looks fun!

Post recordings of what you can do with it :).

FunkMetalBass 08-18-2010 12:30 PM

Man, I'm so tempted to trade in this OLP I've been working on to get another tat on my back.

I'm thinking this would be sweet (without the black background outside of the image):

[img]http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/7569/mandelbrottat.jpg[/img]

BenJammin 08-18-2010 12:44 PM

[QUOTE=FunkMetalBass;18135972]Dude, f**king rocks. How do you like it?[/QUOTE]

Sorry, should have clarified. I ordered one... won't know till it shows up, but I'm pretty pumped for it. I think I have more pedals than my guitarist, now. >_>

Duncster 08-18-2010 02:43 PM

[QUOTE=FunkMetalBass;18136223]Man, I'm so tempted to trade in this OLP I've been working on to get another tat on my back.

I'm thinking this would be sweet (without the black background outside of the image):

[img]http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/7569/mandelbrottat.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]

do you have any idea how long it would take to get that tatoo done?

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Duncster 08-18-2010 02:44 PM

/jumps on opportunity to whore fractal knowledge

FunkMetalBass 08-18-2010 03:11 PM

It would be about 6 hours or so, which is what my last tat took. I expect I'd need a touch up 6 months later too, because of the extensive black shading and because red fades quickly.

fatbandit 08-18-2010 03:52 PM

Dude, so jealous of the Eventide. So jealous.

Duncster 08-18-2010 04:22 PM

[QUOTE=FunkMetalBass;18136483]It would be about 6 hours or so, which is what my last tat took. I expect I'd need a touch up 6 months later too, because of the extensive black shading and because red fades quickly.[/QUOTE]

well my point was that it would take infinity to get the tatoo done -_-
internet humour fail

Duncster 08-18-2010 04:22 PM

regardless, that would be a sick tat and i have considered that myself.

FunkMetalBass 08-18-2010 04:35 PM

[quote=Duncster;18136706]well my point was that it would take infinity to get the tatoo done -_-
internet humour fail[/quote]

ba-dub cha!

Bad fractal joke fail.

FunkMetalBass 08-18-2010 04:36 PM

[quote=Duncster;18136707]regardless, that would be a sick tat and i have considered that myself.[/quote]

I just went through all the design sh*t, so you'd better not steal my color schemes and equation.

BenJammin 08-18-2010 05:20 PM

[QUOTE=fatbandit;18136589]Dude, so jealous of the Eventide. So jealous.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, it's going to be pretty foolish once I get it. I'm not sure where to put it in my signal chain...? Right now it goes:

bass -> tuner -> reverb -> distortion -> amp

fatbandit 08-18-2010 05:57 PM

you prefer the reverb before the distortion? i'd have put the reverb dead last after delays and everything.

going off that, i'd go tuner -> distortion -> timefactor -> reverb

butttt, it all depends on how nicely the distortion plays with the time factor.

BenJammin 08-18-2010 07:18 PM

The reverb seems to work fine before the distortion. At least, I've never had any problems with it. Why does that seem strange to you? But, I'll probably put the Pitchfactor (not the Timefactor) where you suggest.

gaslight 08-18-2010 08:06 PM

Yeah conventional wisdom would be to put the distortion before the reverb but whatever gives you the sound you want is alright, just depends if you want reverb applied to your distorted sound or distortion applied to your reverbed sound.

fatbandit 08-19-2010 01:11 AM

Oops, slip of the tongue.

Yeah, generally feedin reverb into distortion sounds very messy, indistinct and wild/out of control. Which is cool if that's what you want. I prefer to use reverb last, as it's a bit like if you were in a large room and got natural reverb, that would come after everything, even your amp. Obviously, you can't quite take it that far, but it sounds more natural to get it to the end of your chain.

There are no hard and fast rules with effects though, our guitarist uses an RV-5 in his pedalboard, and all his distortion comes from his amp. He doesn't use the effects loop, so his distortion is always last in the chain. Sounds weird to me but he loves it that way.

gaslight 08-19-2010 01:37 AM

There's no accounting for taste in the end, you just find the sound you want to get and do anything required to get it.

Sablate McNuff 08-19-2010 08:27 AM

Generally, modulations (delay, reverb, chorus) come after distortion for the same reason fatbandit said - cleanliness. Distortions can act very strangely when they aren't given a clear, clean signal.

FunkMetalBass 08-19-2010 10:17 AM

Does anybody else feel that they subconsciously seek out patterns or anagrams in writing?

Spaceman Spiff 08-19-2010 10:20 AM

Not in writing, but patterns in other places.

So, math dork, I wrote a song recently. The whole thing is in 17/4. Gotta love primes.

FunkMetalBass 08-19-2010 10:28 AM

[quote=Spaceman Spiff;18137970]Not in writing, but patterns in other places.

So, math dork, I wrote a song recently. The whole thing is in 17/4. Gotta love primes.[/quote]

How is it counted? 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 5?

Spaceman Spiff 08-19-2010 10:32 AM

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 1 2 3 4 5 1 2 3 4 5

I didn't intentionally write it like that or anything, it's just how it came out when I originally played it. I counted it after and realized what it was. It always felt super natural, I must say.

gaslight 08-19-2010 10:43 AM

7 is such an inconvenient number to count verbally because it has two syllables.

Spaceman Spiff 08-19-2010 10:46 AM

I love 7. I don't know why, it just feels awesome.

gaslight 08-19-2010 10:49 AM

Oh it sounds great and it's no worries to play in, it's just the word itself is a mongrel.

Funny how from 0 to 10, only 0 and 7 deviate from one syllable names.

FunkMetalBass 08-19-2010 10:53 AM

I wrote a chorus in 20/8 on accident. It was counted:

12345 1 123 12345 123 123

I like odd time signatures when they feel natural or actually have a purpose (tension, release, etc), not just because they are crazy and weird. I can't listen to most math/prog metal.

gaslight 08-19-2010 10:55 AM

Writing stuff like that I often wonder where to draw the line between whether it's one bar of 20/8 or just four bars of 5/8 with unusual accents.

All just comes down to preference I suppose.

FunkMetalBass 08-19-2010 10:56 AM

[quote=gaslight;18138005]Oh it sounds great and it's no worries to play in, it's just the word itself is a mongrel.

Funny how from 0 to 10, only 0 and 7 deviate from one syllable names.[/quote]

The mathematician in me appreciates the fact that you started with 0 and not 1.

FunkMetalBass 08-19-2010 10:58 AM

[quote=gaslight;18138016]Writing stuff like that I often wonder where to draw the line between whether it's one bar of 20/8 or just four bars of 5/8 with unusual accents.

All just comes down to preference I suppose.[/quote]

The thing is entirely written with arpeggios, and each break is a new chord, so with the accents and chord progression, I think it makes sense to throw it in as 20/8 instead of changing time signatures every measure.


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