[QUOTE=Shadius]I come here almost every day and my post count sucks. Often I just come to read whats being said, I have more stuff to do than post here a lot of the time.[/QUOTE]


agreed


i wasnt trying to come off "high and mighty"

i left this thread a while ago because the talk seemed a little too eccentric for my tastes. It seemed to be getting better, hence i came outta the wood work

I've never found the posting here to go downhill, just change direction a lot

I think it goes downhill a lot... but other times its the best on the forum.

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD]I've never found the posting here to go downhill, just change direction a lot[/QUOTE]


well considering you prolly the most avid member here, i would say this isnt an uncommon response (double negative)

all the hypothetical discussions also dis-interest me

[QUOTE]all the hypothetical discussions also dis-interest me[/QUOTE]

Case and point for why we can't talk about Tool all of the time.

...But then again, I'd also rather not talk about DT and Sym X...

[QUOTE=Dried Muffin Remnants]Case and point for why we can't talk about Tool all of the time.

...But then again, I'd also rather not talk about DT and Sym X...[/QUOTE]


im not trying to dictate what goes on in here mind you. I was just explaining my hiatus haha...


i loved TOoL for about 7 years, and that wont change

^^ In response to A pig in a cage on antibiotics post about the vajra..

having done a pathetically short google search 'vajras' errr.. well have a look
( an excerpt from [url]http://www.khandro.net/ritual_vajra.htm[/url] )

[I]Vajra[/I]

" The word for the ritual implement held in the lama's right hand has been translated as thunderbolt but also diamond. The Sanskrit word vajra means adamantine, that is, "diamond-like." Therefore, besides being able to dent any object and overwhelm with its incomparable brilliance, the vajra or dorje represents great durability -- a hardness plus an immutability that is practically eternal. Ultimately, it stands for

The mystery of the mind, the omniscience, the pure awareness of all the Buddhas,
Indicated by a symbol of eternal strength and constancy,
The vajra heart of knowledge and emptiness is like the sky --
How wonderful to see the intrinsic face of reality! "

this is all very vague for me at the moment even if i wasn't up at 1 drinking cheap wine. something along the lines of meridians and/or energy/spiritual centres that exist within us (whether this is fact or not i don't know but i'm trying to go with my perception of the theme here) which will never cease to exist sort've deal..err if that makes sense.

but aside from all the Buddhist connotations .. relating a vajra and the colour red i immediately thought of chakras and in particular a sh!tload of Alex Grey's paintings/drawing which resemble the same thing along the lines of spirit/energy meridians within and around the body. alot of what he says and draws/paints is about self-discovery/soul evolution through creativity.

to have a guess at what the visionary realm is.. well.. i have no fvcking idea..
*does another quick google search*
here it is from the man.
[url]http://alexgrey.net/essay/whatis.html[/url]

apologies if i wasted anyones time with this post, thought i'd give it a go
...or atleast rip off links off google.. which.. i basically did :lol:
anyway..
maybe i'll do more research later. peace :thumb:

bollocked a link

Welcome aboard.

i like his avatar

Anyone like Mastadon here?

I got Leviathon yesterday, I'm listening to it for the second time right now. It's nothing revolutionary, but definitely above average. Their drummer is insane.

My friend bought the Lateralus vinyl yesterday (and wouldn't stop ****ing bragging about it to me), and it's awesome. The artwork is nice, the dissectional man is on the bottom of at least one of the vinyls (I'm not really sure, he didn't really let me look at it much).

I'm ganna pick that up on Friday... I can't wait.

I want the Vinyl so bad but I do not got paid until tommrow and I might not even get my money then because of my license. But I will get it.

I was wondering, why does everyone want the vinyl?
Tool rocks!

[QUOTE]Anyone like Mastadon here?

I got Leviathon yesterday, I'm listening to it for the second time right now. It's nothing revolutionary, but definitely above average. Their drummer is insane.[/QUOTE] :wave: they are great IMO, you should pick up a recent modern drummer that had him in it (if you dont already own that issue) it was a good read!

[QUOTE]I was wondering, why does everyone want the vinyl?
Tool rocks![/QUOTE] i dont really care about it, seeing as i dont have a record player that works, but i guess it will have awsome art work, and it might be a collectors item (not sure how many they are releasing)

oh and i agree tool rocks!

EDIT to below: i think it came out august 23rd. i may be wrong, i might check it out on my way home from school today (just for kicks and to check the artwork)

Whoa, wait, the vinyl already came out?

[QUOTE=faith+1]:wave: they are great IMO, you should pick up a recent modern drummer that had him in it (if you dont already own that issue) it was a good read![/QUOTE]
Actually I subscibe to MD, good magazine. I read that interview you mentioned, definitely a good read.

Yes, and I will have to get my hands on it soon just so I can say I own it.

However, I do have a record player or two, and I'm looking into getting a new one soon.

The guy that runs the Exclusive Company in West Bend said it had just came out and he only ordered one (:angry: ). He told me he'd try to get another one but he probably won't, and if he does somebody else will probably get it. I'm still waiting on him to import In the Court of King Crimson.

well, if the vinyl is anything like the salival DVD, it could be worth 2-3 times as much, but i think its a bit different considering

Hmm, I'm going to have to rummage through my basement to see if we have an old record player. If not I'm taking a trip to goodwill.

im a relativly new poster and i don't know how to quote but....wait now i do!!

[QUOTE]The word for the ritual implement held in the lama's right hand has been translated as thunderbolt but also diamond. The Sanskrit word vajra means adamantine, that is, "diamond-like." Therefore, besides being able to dent any object and overwhelm with its incomparable brilliance, the vajra or dorje represents great durability -- a hardness plus an immutability that is practically eternal. Ultimately, it stands for [/QUOTE]

Great job on the research penelope :thumb: i think that that poins towards the fact that "lateralus" can never be destroyed. if you think about it it is now on millions of cd's and it has been recorded and will last for hundreds of years and even thousands........in theory!! and it's probly also an indication of the band being very proud of their work and (rightfully so) saying that it can overwhelm anyone with its incomparable brilliance. any thoughts?

PS has anyone here ever been to the chapel of sacred mirrors?

hey hey, bob **** here!
 

ok guys and gals (i personaly doubt theres a whole lot of gals on this forum :lol: ) i uploaded a pic of the vajra and theres the writing in the pic aswel for anyone who doubts the holy message being transferred from my mind to the keyboard and onto the web :amaze: .....and also coz im new and want to try out uploading stuff!! anyhooo i was wondering if anyone had any clips of tool live that they could upload just sumtin real small coz unlike some of u (_(_)holes out there i dont have broadband! if anyone has anything lower than like 5megabites id be eternally grateful coz ive never seen tool live :upset:

[url]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=383162[/url]

Poll C is up. Vote for Tool! (Or T:rolleyes::rolleyes:L, if you wish)

^^ A pig on in a cage on antibiotics

thanks !

i'd never thought of that before but i have to agree .. Lateralus has such a timeless quality to it and although maynard has a theme i guess with the lyrics they will only ever be subjective to anyone who listens to them and makes them relate to themselves.
good call.

and chapel of sacred mirrors? literally no.. only seen whatever Alex has on the web.

:thumb:

/\ / \ penelope_wierd_hands

yeah the chapel of sacred mirrors in new york, i would LOVE to go there but seeing as how its thousands of miles away (irish guy talkin here!) i dont think ill get there any time soon, it has loads of his artwork in lifesize form. portraits of our spiritual being and jesus and all that crazy ****, i mean poo poo!!! :lol:

[QUOTE=A pig in a cage on antibiotics]/\ / \ penelope_wierd_hands

yeah the chapel of sacred mirrors in new york, i would LOVE to go there but seeing as how its thousands of miles away (irish guy talkin here!) i dont think ill get there any time soon, it has loads of his artwork in lifesize form. portraits of our spiritual being and jesus and all that crazy ****, i mean poo poo!!! :lol:[/QUOTE]

hah :p

sounds awesome tho..!
but.. know what you mean ...
i'm in perth, aus!! :upset:

Ratm Tool
 

ohh heres something, ive been lookin for the song that tool and rage against the machine did together that was never officialy released but was leaked to the web, i forget what it's called, duh!! but does anyone know where i can download it, penelope my man im hopin you can hook me up! :lol:

found the info on it.......Rage and Tool song
This song was originally recorded to appear on the "Judgement
Night" soundtrack - but, for unknown reasons, was never released.
It's title is unknown, but "You Can't Kill the Revolution" is
what people are calling it.

where can i download it though?

Looks cool. The only callaboration I know of is Know Your Enemy.

^^ A pig etc ;)

[url]http://www.diymedia.net/audio/mp3ratmtool.htm[/url]

:thumb:

I have that track somewhere on my HD if anyone wants me to upload it.

I have the song of them that goes "You can kill a revolutionary, but you can't kill the revolution!"

Could you send it?

[QUOTE=penelope_weird_hands]^^ A pig etc ;)

[url]http://www.diymedia.net/audio/mp3ratmtool.htm[/url]

:thumb:[/QUOTE]

That's the one I got.

I'm warning you all beforehand- The sound quality on Revolution is TERRIBLE. I mean, we're talking indiscernable lyrics, muddy guitar riffs, among other things. Still a cool track if you listen to it closely. I'd love to hear a higher quality version, but oh well. :upset:

yeah it's dodgy as fvuck
dunno where else to find it tho ;/

It's the only version I've heard, so good luck finding it. I'm guessing it's the only one around. :-/

does anyone know anything about a possible release date for the next album. i need it

Before Summer '06. Less than a year, that is.

thanks penelope myman i shall return the favor in time, just don't come to me on the day of my daughters wedding, i dont want you askin for ANYTHING *hoping youve seen the godfather*!!

thats 2 excellent bands, pity RATM broke up tho, but this isn't the place to talk about that!

For some reason I still question that that is them collabrating.