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sweboy 06-18-2008 06:58 AM

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RouteOne 06-18-2008 07:40 AM

[QUOTE=combustion07;16418143]WITTR are classy :chug:[/QUOTE]

WITTR are the best BM band at the moment imo

RetiredAt21 06-18-2008 08:21 AM

[QUOTE=Mr. Ron;16418578]WITTR are the best BM band at the moment imo[/QUOTE]

lol

Angmar 06-18-2008 08:22 AM

They're definitely no Brenovitorksiazcopenisldwder

RetiredAt21 06-18-2008 08:23 AM

Yeah, WITTR is for poons, Brenoritvrezorkre isn't.

Angmar 06-18-2008 08:31 AM

Have you really memorized how to spell that name or do you just look up LLN on Metal-Archives any time you wanna mention them?

RetiredAt21 06-18-2008 08:41 AM

It's not that hard to spell.

RouteOne 06-18-2008 09:08 AM

[QUOTE=RetiredAt21;16418677]lol[/QUOTE]

Well lets see:

They don't suck at their instruments like the VAST majority of BM bands do

They have a "raw" sound without sounding like someone just recorded a broken air conditioner and dubbed white noise over it

They have amazing atmosphere in their songs

Their musicianship is superior than most bm bands (most BM bands can't play their instruments)

They don't play up the retarded "evil" or satanistic side of BM which is incredibly hilarious (for the most part)

They don't pretend to be something they are not.

Their ideology actually makes sense instead of "ZOMG HOLOCAUST DESTRvvKTION! KILL EVERY1 BUT MOSTLY JEWZ & XTIANS!"




Seriously, if you can listen to Diadem of 12 stars and not at least say their a good band then idk.

DERSIEGDERKRIEGDERKAMPF 06-18-2008 09:29 AM

Hahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahaahha

RouteOne 06-18-2008 09:31 AM

DERSIEGDERKRIEGDERKAMPF, supreme Uberkommannder of zee 666th panzer lucifarian tank division.

masscows 06-18-2008 09:56 AM

[QUOTE=Mr. Ron;16418811]Well lets see:

They don't suck at their instruments like the VAST majority of BM bands do

They have a "raw" sound without sounding like someone just recorded a broken air conditioner and dubbed white noise over it

They have amazing atmosphere in their songs

Their musicianship is superior than most bm bands (most BM bands can't play their instruments)

They don't play up the retarded "evil" or satanistic side of BM which is incredibly hilarious (for the most part)

They don't pretend to be something they are not.

Their ideology actually makes sense instead of "ZOMG HOLOCAUST DESTRvvKTION! KILL EVERY1 BUT MOSTLY JEWZ & XTIANS!"




Seriously, if you can listen to Diadem of 12 stars and not at least say their a good band then idk.[/QUOTE]
...I think WITTR are alright but you're pretty gay

RouteOne 06-18-2008 09:58 AM

What? for pointing out stupid sacred cows?

masscows 06-18-2008 09:59 AM

you don't know what you're talking about

RouteOne 06-18-2008 10:00 AM

Well, you can point out where I am wrong then.

masscows 06-18-2008 10:01 AM

[QUOTE=Mr. Ron;16418975]Well, you can point out where I am wrong then.[/QUOTE]

sure[QUOTE=Mr. Ron;16418811]Well lets see:

They don't suck at their instruments like the VAST majority of BM bands do

They have a "raw" sound without sounding like someone just recorded a broken air conditioner and dubbed white noise over it

They have amazing atmosphere in their songs

Their musicianship is superior than most bm bands (most BM bands can't play their instruments)

They don't play up the retarded "evil" or satanistic side of BM which is incredibly hilarious (for the most part)

They don't pretend to be something they are not.

Their ideology actually makes sense instead of "ZOMG HOLOCAUST DESTRvvKTION! KILL EVERY1 BUT MOSTLY JEWZ & XTIANS!"


[/QUOTE]

RouteOne 06-18-2008 10:03 AM

[QUOTE=masscows;16418978]sure[/QUOTE]

Nothing I said in that post is wrong.


Let me stress these few points:
-Most of BM is ****

-Most of them can't play their instruments

-Its mostly a ridiculous genre where no one can possibly live up to the image

masscows 06-18-2008 10:04 AM

lol

RouteOne 06-18-2008 10:05 AM

I accept your apology.


I mean, its no secret that a lot of BM sucks. The better bands make up for the **** ones. So it all evens out.

Apocalyptic Raids 06-18-2008 10:08 AM

[I]The Black Metal Elite[/I] think otherwise.

RouteOne 06-18-2008 10:10 AM

I know I'm saying things people don't like, but lest face it, when you really think about BM you have to laugh sometimes. Hell, any "extreme" genre comes with its ridiculousness. Thats ok though, I still like it.

Neoteric 06-18-2008 10:13 AM

yeah

masscows 06-18-2008 10:13 AM

And you're an idiot who has probably only heard of black metal because of indie rockers namedropping WITTR.

You've just got it all wrong and I don't need to explain why.

RouteOne 06-18-2008 10:15 AM

[QUOTE=masscows;16419003]And you're an idiot who has probably only heard of black metal because of indie rockers namedropping WITTR.

You've just got it all wrong and I don't need to explain why.[/QUOTE]

No actually my first BM record was at 16 and it was [I]Hvis Lyset Tar Oss[/I]

I also find it curious as to why you can't exactly say why I am wrong. I mean if its so obvious then you should be able to point it out.

All I am saying is that each genre comes with its stupid sacred cows and ridiculousness. You can't tell me with a straight face that grown men painting their bodies, wearing leather, wielding medieval weaponry, and giving themselves names like "necrobutcher" isn't even slightly ridiculous.

masscows 06-18-2008 10:30 AM

It isn't totally serious. Stop looking at it like it is.

RouteOne 06-18-2008 10:34 AM

Of course it isn't all serious. We can agree on that. I mean, I don't think the majority of them are as dark as they let off to be.

We just disagree on somethings, no hard feelings to you or anything.


I think we all just like black metal for different reasons.



I find the different ideologies in BM to be pretty interesting a deep. Although there are many differing ideologies even within the BM culture and community, there seems to be one underlying emotions, or unifying theme that I think all BM comes back to: Dissatisfaction. Think about it, every BM album has some sort of dissatisfaction with something or someone, or both. Whether its religion, christianity, Zionism, modernity or what have you...it all comes back to dissatisfaction. BM is the ultimate antagonist genre imo. I find that to be the most appealing trait to the genre.


I probably worded my arguments a bit harshly earlier...I do think bands that are more "raw" and sound grittier have their place and purpose in BM. They intentionally sound that way for various reasons that I don't think I need to point out to any of you.

SliderFury 06-18-2008 11:02 AM

Mr. Ron is winning.

masscows 06-18-2008 11:05 AM

[QUOTE=SliderFury;16419104]Mr. Ron is winning.[/QUOTE]

It's not really an argument so...

Anyway yeah I know what you mean. Every type of black metal has its place and every type of black metal has lots of **** and lots of good stuff. You were being a huge douche though tbh.

RouteOne 06-18-2008 11:17 AM

Meh, I don't see it, but if I was I was.

Bordello 06-18-2008 01:08 PM

[QUOTE=masscows;16418971]you don't know what you're talking about[/QUOTE]

irony

RetiredAt21 06-18-2008 01:36 PM

[QUOTE=masscows;16419003]And you're an idiot who has probably only heard of black metal because of indie rockers namedropping WITTR.

You've just got it all wrong and I don't need to explain why.[/QUOTE]

You're a ****ing retard.


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