Hahahaha. That place is awesome the jalaleno poppers and onion fry type things are so good.

/me NP Alexisonfire.

I seriously love this band.

Gav, not as much as you should.

[QUOTE=Skrunnch]/me NP Alexisonfire.

I seriously love this band.[/QUOTE]

The s/t is decent. The guitar work's pretty cool but George's voice gets annoying as hell. His delivery is so jagged and awkward.

AND EVERY
NO....TION....OF SELF....GOVERN.........MENT............WAS LEFT........BLEE................DING............ON..........THE........PITCH................ERS............MMMOOOOOOOUUUUUUNNNNDDDD!

It's just too awkward so I have to phase it out. They're alright, though.

[QUOTE=whiteminority]Gav, not as much as you should.[/QUOTE]

[SIZE=7]EVERYONE LISTEN TO THE EMO BAND NATIVE NOD BECAUSE THEY'RE AWESOME. IF YOU WANT THEM, HIT ME UP ON AIM. AIM: GAVSAVESTHEDAY[/size]

Better?

-Gav

Is it prenounced ALEXIS on FIRE or ALEX IS ON FIRE.

Alexis-on-fire

[I]Watch Out![/I] was kind of disapointing but they have a great live show.

[i]Watch Out![/i] sucked.

-Gav

They always sucked hard.

I used to like them a lot. The s/t was really good. Watch Out! was decent. Like a 2.5/5. I havn't listend to them in a while.

[QUOTE=I0Play0Bass][SIZE=7]EVERYONE LISTEN TO THE EMO BAND NATIVE NOD BECAUSE THEY'RE AWESOME. IF YOU WANT THEM, HIT ME UP ON AIM. AIM: GAVSAVESTHEDAY[/size]

Better?

-Gav[/QUOTE]
yes

So, couldn't emo also be called post-hardcore? I don't know exactly what makes a band post-hardcore, but from what I know, both genres seemed tie together at times.

Compare Hot Water Music to Heroin then ask yourself that same question.

^ :lol:!

Owned.

-Gav

Watch Out was over produced. Stupid distorted vocals

[QUOTE=whiteminority]Compare Hot Water Music to Heroin then ask yourself that same question.[/QUOTE]
I haven't listened to Hot Water Music in a long while, so I forgot what they sound like. Can someone define post-hardcore for me, and don't suggest wiki, because that's s[SIZE="2"]h[/SIZE]it's too long and detailed.

[QUOTE=Luxor]Watch Out was over produced. Stupid distorted vocals[/QUOTE]
Ya, it was over produxed. But the irony of the over production is that it was recorded in a basement.

[QUOTE=dynamite!]I haven't listened to Hot Water Music in a long while, so I forgot what they sound like. Can someone define post-hardcore for me, and don't suggest wiki, because that's s[SIZE="2"]h[/SIZE]it's too long and detailed.[/QUOTE]
Its basically hardcore that is taken further and more experimental. There isn't a unique sound, but some elements are soft to loud dynamics. Its more than just the 3 simple power chords in a hardcore song. Some of it is close to emo, but there isn't a "definitive" band. The genre ranges from Hopesfall to Trophy Scars, from Thursday to The Fall of Troy. I don't know how well I explained but I hope it helps a little.

[QUOTE=cbmartinez]They always sucked hard.[/QUOTE]

siryessir.

BENNIFER: Native Nod are raddddddd. Tangled is my favorite song by them.


Post-hardcore and emo are kind of related. When people say post-hardcore is hardcore 'taken further', theyre right and everything, but it seems like if you asked somebody what emo was and they gave you that answer, it would still fit. Theyre both more 'out there' versions of hardcore.

Post-hardcore could simply be called progressive hardcore. Its a very broad genre. Like suggested, listen to Trophy Scars and Thursday, then try out Fugazi and Glassjaw. All different sounds in the same genre.

Think Fugazi.

[QUOTE=SunnyDayRealEstateAM]Its basically hardcore that is taken further and more experimental. There isn't a unique sound, but some elements are soft to loud dynamics. Its more than just the 3 simple power chords in a hardcore song. Some of it is close to emo, but there isn't a "definitive" band. The genre ranges from Hopesfall to Trophy Scars, from Thursday to The Fall of Troy. I don't know how well I explained but I hope it helps a little.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I've gained that much from the bands I listen to and such. But, I'm getting tired of having to either explain emo to people, or just staying quiet about it completely, so I figured calling the bands post-hardcore could be viable, since emo does seem to fit in with the genre.

[QUOTE=whiteminority]Think Fugazi.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. They are considered post-hardcore, as well as emo.

Stop using emo and say emotional hardcore if you are tired of explaining.

[QUOTE=dynamite!]Exactly. They are considered post-hardcore, as well as emo.[/QUOTE]
Fugazi's like first and second release could be considered emo I guess but that is like it for them.

Would Coheed And Cambria's first album be Post-Hardcore? I see some Post-Hardcore elements but I'm unsure.

No.

I barely talk about music anywhere but on MX anymore, since I dont feel like explaining emo to anyone, and most people on here (even in pop-punk) understand what it is.

[QUOTE=SunnyDayRealEstateAM]Would Coheed And Cambria's first album be Post-Hardcore? I see some Post-Hardcore elements but I'm unsure.[/QUOTE]

Im going to go with a no, but I know what youre talking about. Certain parts. Its an extremely hard to classify album. I have no clue.

Also, SSTB was raddddddd. I dont really like anything else by them anymore.

I don't talk about music much outside of MX, but when I do, I don't use "emo". I'll either say "emotional hardcore", or just "hardcore", to include hardcore, emo, metalcore, etc.

[QUOTE=whiteminority]Stop using emo and say emotional hardcore if you are tired of explaining.[/QUOTE]
I've tried that too, but it still confuses people. =\