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fatbandit 08-09-2010 12:44 PM

I'd think not spending $2000 on a cab would be the way to go, personally.

fatbandit 08-09-2010 12:45 PM

Or buy a Matamp ;p

Need to ring Jeff up and ask him to make me an offset 4x12 in the same shell as their 8x10 actually... When I have enough money :(

Duncster 08-09-2010 08:32 PM

[QUOTE=FunkMetalBass;18121537]A refret shouldn't cost more than about $200, and the added weight and neckdive of a graphite neck is generally undesirable.

Get a MightyMite neck. Great quality, only about $100. Way cheaper than a $400 graphite neck.[/QUOTE]

well like i said i have a graphite neck on a large scale 5string nonetheless and don't have any neckdive problems. I don't see why crapdragoon would be wasting money on a bass considering he is a traitoras[size=2]s[/size] mother fu[size=2]cking[/size] guitarist. save your money for your hardcore deluxe floyd rose ii.
(owned)

funkyhoney 08-09-2010 09:29 PM

Is anyone else excited about Bad Religion's new album?

gaslight 08-09-2010 09:58 PM

[QUOTE=fatbandit;18121747]Three clicks. forfuxake.

Hmm. Looks okay. Wasn't expecting it to be a 2x12... At $2000 though, I can't see it beating a Schroeder/Epi/EBS/Eden/Aguilar etc 2x12 cab. The sonic difference can't be worth that much. Love to be able to test one though.[/QUOTE]

I'd expect to be better than the Epifani 212 I have, and probably to have a better sound that most plain 212s, the addition of an extra 8" speaker and a second tweeter probably makes a quite decent difference.

Rollo47 08-10-2010 04:13 AM

Hey all, if you get a chance, head over to my band's MySpace page. Have got samples of our upcoming single on there, finally some clips of me playing in this band!

EDIT: Fail. http://www.myspace.com/thejoekings

fatbandit 08-10-2010 09:29 AM

[quote=gaslight;18122362]I'd expect to be better than the Epifani 212 I have, and probably to have a better sound that most plain 212s, the addition of an extra 8" speaker and a second tweeter probably makes a quite decent difference.[/quote]

Depends what you like. I f[size=2]u[/size]cking hate tweeters, so the extra drivers wouldn't be a selling point to me. All the cabs I've owned with them in, I turn them off if possible. If tweeters are your bag though, it might be worth a looksee. It's the kind of thing you'll probably never get to test before buying though :(

gaslight 08-10-2010 09:32 AM

They have a lot of the Accugroove cabs in the bass store in Sydney, just not that particular one which is a shame. I'm certain it's the most expensive thing they have.

Realistically I can't justify buying any new cabs anytime soon anyway.

Paying gigs first, new gear later.

fatbandit 08-10-2010 10:05 AM

If I had that mentality, I'd have no gear.

And I love gear.

gaslight 08-10-2010 10:07 AM

Haha I love gear too but I have a pretty nice rig already and until I can justify more music spending through music earning I'm going to have to leave it at the current amp/head set-up.

I'm allowed little things like pedals and DI's and gadget stuff like that though, teaching covers those dealies. I'm not a total Nazi to myself.

fatbandit 08-10-2010 10:08 AM

I see where you're coming from man. I just like new things. I tend to mostly fund new stuff through moving old stuff on where possible though. Doesn't always work that way!

This is also pretty hot:

http://www.aguilaramp.com/gfx/prod_details_db412_wh.jpg

gaslight 08-10-2010 10:23 AM

Haha oh yeah, I had every intention of getting an Aguilar 212 the day I bought my amp, except they didn't have one in stock so I went for the Epifani.

I really want a DB751 but I don't have $4000.

A 412, now that'd be a huge sound, just a bigger thing that I want to be carting around.

Maybe one day, cue daydream music.

fatbandit 08-10-2010 10:29 AM

After my Roland DB500 became too small for my needs, the first thing I bought was a 400W valve head and a 4x12!

Then I sold it to go for a rack setup with a Schroeder 2x12 for the sake of portability and size. Now we're on about getting a van though, a bigger cab seems more legitimate a proposition. And one in white like that to match my white head would be supercool.

I do wonder if it would be possible to split it in two though, so for venues where I don't need the full power of all 4 speakers, only have the top two speakers making noise. Maybe it'd need an extra lead to wire the two halves up in series or something, I don't know. Electronics isn't my strong point :p

fatbandit 08-10-2010 10:30 AM

And the DB750 looked very good. Not really sure how the 751 stacks up? But I think it'd be way too clean sounding for my liking. Weighty, but clean.

gaslight 08-10-2010 10:31 AM

Haha mad.

Yeah I'd need a different vehicle if I was going to put a 412 in it I think.

My most recent purchase was a Mono double electric bass bag and I am really loving that thing.

Yeah the 750 would have been pimp, one of my mates has one. The 751 is supposed to be excellent too, being an Aguilar head it wouldn't be surgically clean or anything like that, there's always a lovely warmth to them. The AG500 is all solid state and it is still very toasty.

Their compressor pedal is only $350 here so I think that's my next serious purchase unless I opt for a reverb pedal for my guitar first.

Rollo47 08-10-2010 10:53 AM

Hey all, anyone about?

gaslight 08-10-2010 11:13 AM

Yeah.

Waiting to get tired.

Rollo47 08-10-2010 11:16 AM

Ah, one of those nights, huh? What's been happening man? If you're bored, head to http://www.myspace.com/thejoekings and check out the new sample tracks on there - finally some recordings of me playing with my band, hahah.

gaslight 08-10-2010 11:23 AM

Usual night for me man I just don't get tired usually till after 3.

Which recordings are you on?

Really nice looking page, sounds cool too.

What can you tell me about the design people you used there, I'm checking out their page but I could use some inside info if you have any. I'm in a band at the moment that will need a bunch of design work and **** done for an album launch.

Rollo47 08-10-2010 11:40 AM

I'm on 'Fool For Love' and 'Don't Like Wine'. I'm not too sure about the design guy, I wasn't really involved in it a whole lot. I'm pretty happy with the results though, and I'm pretty sure it wasn't hugely expensive.

FunkMetalBass 08-10-2010 09:19 PM

[quote=fatbandit;18122909]Depends what you like. I f[SIZE=2]u[/SIZE]cking hate tweeters, so the extra drivers wouldn't be a selling point to me. All the cabs I've owned with them in, I turn them off if possible. If tweeters are your bag though, it might be worth a looksee. It's the kind of thing you'll probably never get to test before buying though :([/quote]

I used to like tweeters for the full-range, but they usually don't kick in until around 15kHz. I usually cut everything above 8kHz, so they are worthless to me.

FunkMetalBass 08-10-2010 09:22 PM

[quote=fatbandit;18122949]After my Roland DB500 became too small for my needs, the first thing I bought was a 400W valve head and a 4x12!

Then I sold it to go for a rack setup with a Schroeder 2x12 for the sake of portability and size. Now we're on about getting a van though, a bigger cab seems more legitimate a proposition. And one in white like that to match my white head would be supercool.

I do wonder if it would be possible to split it in two though, so for venues where I don't need the full power of all 4 speakers, only have the top two speakers making noise. Maybe it'd need an extra lead to wire the two halves up in series or something, I don't know. Electronics isn't my strong point :p[/quote]

You could do it, but it would be a matter of switching from 4 ohms (all 4 speakers) to 8 ohms (only 2 speakers). That would actually be a very simple thing to wire up, although it's rather pointless IMO as it wouldn't help you at all in the portability department. I think two 2x12's is the way to go if you really wanted that sort of mod, just leaving one at home/in the van if it's a small venue.. Otherwise, using your volume knob is the best option.

gaslight 08-10-2010 09:46 PM

Yeah, carting around a big cabinet to only use half of it, that'd be a bit of waste.

fatbandit 08-11-2010 01:18 AM

Well I don't want wasted money tied up in two cabs if I'm only using one. I wouldn't get a big cab unless we get a van, when space becomes a non-issue. I think it'd be nice to have the top two speakers raised up like that too - won't complain at an extra 18" of elevation or anything, especially without decoupling the cab from the floor! Can't forget the visual aspect of it either to be fair. Bit like bands using walls of Marshall cabs with nothing in them.

It's only an idea anyway. Though I guess set up like that, it'd be possible to run it as a bi-amp cab too?

EDIT: volume knobs are for wimps. how am i gonna get power valve drive then? ;p

gaslight 08-11-2010 04:42 AM

To be [un]fair, the kind of person impressed by a wall of empty Marshall boxes is the kind of person who is genuinely fooled by the "got your nose" trick."

funkyhoney 08-11-2010 04:49 AM

[QUOTE=gaslight;18124486]To be [un]fair, the kind of person impressed by a wall of empty Marshall boxes is the kind of person who is genuinely fooled by the "got your nose" trick."[/QUOTE]

So, people who go to Slayer concerts?

FlamingCouch 08-11-2010 09:29 AM

Lawl to both of those.

At one of the group's shows not too long ago my buddy Simon came up with a great idea... he had me stack my Jazz Chorus on top of four little practice amps, kind of parodying the whole huge cabs with nothing there kinda thing. It got a few laughs.

oh and for what it's worth - Spaceman, that Maps and Atlases song was awesome. I'll have to check those cats out.

Spaceman Spiff 08-11-2010 09:46 AM

Yeah man, they were amazing live. They were unbelievably tight and ripped it up hard. Whenever he spoke, the singer seemed so soft-spoken and humble and like such a nice guy.

Also, when I saw My Bloody Valentine, they had about 12-15 stacks lined up across the back of the stage. The difference is that they actually used them. That show was so loud. It was actually painful to not wear earplugs. And then, towards the end of the show, came the holocaust... where I guess they just got as loud as they possibly could. The entire venue shook for 20 minutes from it. Everything was shaking; my clothes, my clenched teeth were rattling against each other, my internal organs were vibrating. Words can't describe the feeling.

FlamingCouch 08-11-2010 10:20 AM

Woah, that sounds pretty nasty. I watched a local band called Naughtlia in July and the sound man just gave up mid-show and walked out... left a friend of mine doing the best he could, absolutely wasted. I was taking pictures for the band and by the end of the night I couldn't even think, my head was so fulled with broken sounds. Basically when they got onstage they just cranked their amps as loud as they'd go and gave'r... it was nuts. After the show I found out they were actually going to give out earplugs at the door, but halfway through some fu[SIZE="2"]cking jerkoff wanker[/SIZE] stole the bowl of plugs so anyone who wasn't there before-hand was fu[SIZE="2"]cked. How nice.[/SIZE]

oh and hey, while I'm talking about those guys: [url]http://www.myspace.com/naughtlia[/url] if anyone's interested. They make me think Radiohead meets Nirvana meets Mastodon.

gaslight 08-11-2010 11:05 AM

It's ridiculous to just want to try and damage people's hearing like that.

That said, you should always have your own pair of earplugs anyway at rehearsals and gigs if your hearing is important to you.


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