[QUOTE=metal_milita]I think its obvious, Dyers Eve is his best drumming. Not only does it match the song, it took him 10 years to be able to play that song.
And Dyers Eve just kicks ***.[/QUOTE]

And by todays drumming standards, its pathetical really.

Actually, even back then it was pretty tame.

That and he cant play it now, or then.

[QUOTE=metal_milita]I think its obvious, Dyers Eve is his best drumming. Not only does it match the song, it took him 10 years to be able to play that song.
And Dyers Eve just kicks ***.[/QUOTE]

i doubt that. where'd you hear it took him 10 years to play his own song?

NP: "One" from S&M

^^best version IMO

[QUOTE=Squiggle]And by todays drumming standards, its pathetical really.

Actually, even back then it was pretty tame.

That and he cant play it now, or then.[/QUOTE]

They've played it live a few times this year.

[QUOTE=Sliptallica]They've played it live a few times this year.[/QUOTE]
when an where r they live nxt?

[QUOTE=Squiggle]And by todays drumming standards, its pathetical really.

Actually, even back then it was pretty tame.

That and he cant play it now, or then.[/QUOTE]
pathetical, eh? did u make that word up al by urself? an by the way lars drumming in dyers eve is not pathetic(al)!!

[QUOTE]Originally Posted by [B][I]Squiggle[/I][/B]
And by todays drumming standards, its pathetical really.

Actually, even back then it was pretty tame.

That and he cant play it now, or then. [/QUOTE]

by todays standards? he is a god by todays standards. yes, his drumming may be simple at times....but can you play dyers eve? battery? damage inc? probably not

By today's standards it is. Go look at any death metal band and compare their drumming to Dyers Eve.

Edit: And no, he can't really play it. He can't do the double kicks at all.

But its not like Metallica requires blastbeats or anything, he compliments the music best he can i think

I guess i can't argue him not doing the double, i have that song, but i've also heard in from 2003 play no remorse with just about as fast, if not faster double bass in it...so idk why he didnt for dyers eve

dude....i think that One has some of Lars' best drumming. That double bass kick to match the guitar palm muting was suprurb. It may have been simple but at the same time it was probably one of the most interesting things Metallica had done. They should use more double bass pedal, it adds that thudding effect to songs.

[QUOTE=Ibanex0110]by todays standards? he is a god by todays standards. yes, his drumming may be simple at times....but can you play dyers eve? battery? damage inc? probably not[/QUOTE]
no, he was never good, by any standards. Funny how people think Dyers Eve is so good, but he can't play it live. Come on fanboys, you can still be a metallica fan, and realize Lars is not much of a drummer. I like Metallica, but I don't think he is to much of a drummer. He can get the job done although.

Seriously, are you judging todays drumming on what you hear played on the radio today? Todays standards for dumming have lifted a lot higher in the underground.

[QUOTE=metal guitar]I don't judge by the radio, thanks. And yeah, I have definitely heard better drumming.[/QUOTE]
I didn't say you did.

[QUOTE=EddieVanHalen769]no, he was never good, by any standards. Funny how people think Dyers Eve is so good, but he can't play it live. Come on fanboys, you can still be a metallica fan, and realize Lars is not much of a drummer. I like Metallica, but I don't think he is to much of a drummer. He can get the job done although.

Seriously, are you judging todays drumming on what you hear played on the radio today? Todays standards for dumming have lifted a lot higher in the underground.[/QUOTE]
when joey jordison subed for him,he tryed to play these fast beats and [SIZE=2]f[/SIZE]ucked everything up,he messed up a bunch of slow songs by trying to play fast double kick beats,that proves that all drummers that play all out double bass can only play fast beats while lars can play slow and fast

[QUOTE=willis2441]when joey jordison subed for him,he tryed to play these fast beats and [SIZE=2]f[/SIZE]ucked everything up,he messed up a bunch of slow songs by trying to play fast double kick beats,that proves that all drummers that play all out double bass can only play fast beats while lars can play slow and fast[/QUOTE]
But then again, Joey Jordinson is a terrible drummer. So that is a terrible example of fast drummers.

Anyways, To learn to play fast double kick beats, you have to start out slow don't you? So I think it's common sense that you can play slow. Unless you ment to say they have no rhythm.

[QUOTE=EddieVanHalen769]But then again, Joey Jordinson is a terrible drummer.[/QUOTE]
man you dont know anything about drums do you?are you even a drummer?

[QUOTE=willis2441]man you dont know anything about drums do you?are you even a drummer?[/QUOTE]


Even if he isn't, he's still right.

[QUOTE=Otherside]Even if he isn't, he's still right.[/QUOTE]
joey is far above the average drummer,are you better than him?i dont think so,so just please give the man some credit

[QUOTE=willis2441]man you dont know anything about drums do you?are you even a drummer?[/QUOTE]
No, I don't know very much about drumming, I play guitar, bass, and keyboards. But if you search under Joey Jordinson, you will find a thread by Det_Nosip, who knows a lot more than most of us about drumming explaining why he is bad.

[QUOTE=EddieVanHalen769]No, I don't know very much about drumming, I play guitar, bass, and keyboards. But if you search under Joey Jordinson, you will find a thread by Det_Nosip, who knows a lot more than most of us about drumming explaining why he is bad.[/QUOTE]
he could outdrum 70% of drummers out there

[QUOTE=willis2441]he could outdrum 70% of drummers out there[/QUOTE]

Your joking, amirite?

[QUOTE=Otherside]Your joking, amirite?[/QUOTE]
name 30 people that could outdrum him that arent a death metal drummer cuz that is just playing double bass really fast,i mean like broken split fills like he does,and $hit like that.double bass is cheating anyways

[QUOTE=willis2441]name 30 people that could outdrum him that arent a death metal drummer cuz that is just playing double bass really fast,i mean like broken split fills like he does,and $hit like that.double bass is cheating anyways[/QUOTE]


Here's 50 for you.

1. Vinnie Colaiuta
2. Dave Weckl
3. Steve Gadd
4. Billy Cobham
5. Terry Bozzio
6. Bill Bruford
7. Buddy Rich
8. Neil Peart
9. Steve Smith
10. Tony Williams
11. Dennis Chambers
12. Carl Palmer
13. Gene Krupa
14. Ansley Dunbar
15. Mark Mondesir
16. Max Roach
17. Danny Carey
18. Mike Portnoy
19. Elvin Jones
20. Peter Erskine
21. Simon Phillips
22. Marco Minnemann
23. Jack DeJohnette
24. Virgil Donati
25. Chad Wackerman
26. Joe Morello
27. Dean Castronovo
28. Morgan Agren
29. Harvey Mason
30. Carter Beauford
31. Greg Bissonette
32. Thomas Lang
33. Bill Stewart
34. Mike Mangini
35. Art Blakey
36. Roy Haynes
37. Connie Kay
38. Tim Alexander
39. Paul Wertico
40. David Garibaldi
41. Louis Bellson
42. Rod Morgenstein
43. Bernard Purdie
44. Ed Blackwell
45. Horacio Hernandez
46. Jeff "Tain" Watts
47. Al Foster
48. Omar Hakim
49. Lewis Nash
50. Antonio Sanchez

[QUOTE=willis2441]name 30 people that could outdrum him that arent a death metal drummer cuz that is just playing double bass really fast,i mean like broken split fills like he does,and $hit like that.double bass is cheating anyways[/QUOTE]
Death metal is not at all just playing double bass fast. Listen to Lykathea Aflame, and Cryptopsy, just to name two, then come back and say that again.

Hey guys, this is a Metallica thread, take this outside.

Does anyone know when Metallica plan to the tour the UK again?
I really want a chance to see them before they pack it in.

well there you go

[QUOTE=Otherside]Here's 50 for you.

1. Vinnie Colaiuta
.......
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50. Antonio Sanchez[/QUOTE]

pwned

Let's make a rule:

No more talking about Lars' drumming ability!

[QUOTE=Sliptallica]pwned

Let's make a rule:

No more talking about Lars' drumming ability![/QUOTE]
yeah,hes better than all of you!

[QUOTE=EddieVanHalen769]But then again, Joey Jordinson is a terrible drummer. So that is a terrible example of fast drummers.

Anyways, To learn to play fast double kick beats, you have to start out slow don't you? So I think it's common sense that you can play slow. Unless you ment to say they have no rhythm.[/QUOTE]
joey jordinson is not a terrible drummer. and im not a drummer so i couldnt help you with that double bass question.

but when your trying to learn something fast on guitar you ussually start by playing it slow then speed it up when you get the hang of it.

heh i think you got served with that huge post lol

END OF DRUMMING CONVORSATION


I hear some people say that MoP and AJFA aren't thrash. I kind of agree. They have far fewer thrashy songs on those two. Do you think this had anything to do with Dave Mustaine? He was part of the writing process for most of there thrashy songs. Do you think it was his departure that it stopped the thrash assault? When they ran out of material from the Mustaine areas do you think it stopped the thrashiness?

[QUOTE=Sliptallica]END OF DRUMMING CONVORSATION


I hear some people say that MoP and AJFA aren't thrash. I kind of agree. They have far fewer thrashy songs on those two. Do you think this had anything to do with Dave Mustaine? He was part of the writing process for most of there thrashy songs. Do you think it was his departure that it stopped the thrash assault? When they ran out of material from the Mustaine areas do you think it stopped the thrashiness?[/QUOTE]
probably


does anyone belive that metallica may have rip off diamond head riffs for their songs?

Metallica have rip-off riffs of many artist and kirk says that one of the solos on wherever i may roam have a rip off of a Hendrix solo.

[QUOTE=Carlos Santana]probably


does anyone belive that metallica may have rip off diamond head riffs for their songs?[/QUOTE]
Deffinitley,
If you have [I]Kill 'Em All,[/I] the majority of songs have riffs that have been recycled from bands like [I]Diamond Head [/I] and [I]Venom[/I].
I don't think it matters though really.

[QUOTE=i_am_Jimmy_Page]Deffinitley,
If you have [I]Kill 'Em All,[/I] the majority of songs have riffs that have been recycled from bands like [I]Diamond Head [/I] and [I]Venom[/I].
I don't think it matters though really.[/QUOTE]

i dont know bout that

[QUOTE=i_am_Jimmy_Page]Deffinitley,
If you have [I]Kill 'Em All,[/I] the majority of songs have riffs that have been recycled from bands like [I]Diamond Head [/I] and [I]Venom[/I].
I don't think it matters though really.[/QUOTE]

Yeah that just reminded me of the Sweet Home Alabama part in the 4 horseman. I love that part.

I am incredibly ashamed of myself and you all deserve to beat me up lol...
I have loved Metallica pretty much all my life, and i thought i had listened to all their songs, i realised on Orion they is like a second part, a more relaxed part!!! I always used to turn it off when it got there, Like a routine lol, anyways now i have heard all of Orion, Yes its amazing, and dude, go easy on me lol

[QUOTE=LarsAgi007]I am incredibly ashamed of myself and you all deserve to beat me up lol...
I have loved Metallica pretty much all my life, and i thought i had listened to all their songs, i realised on Orion they is like a second part, a more relaxed part!!! I always used to turn it off when it got there, Like a routine lol, anyways now i have heard all of Orion, Yes its amazing, and dude, go easy on me lol[/QUOTE]

Im not gonna bash you.

Im just gonna say, congratulations on completing life. That part is the pwn, the bass and guitar solos are so awesome.

[QUOTE=LarsAgi007]I am incredibly ashamed of myself and you all deserve to beat me up lol...
I have loved Metallica pretty much all my life, and i thought i had listened to all their songs, i realised on Orion they is like a second part, a more relaxed part!!! I always used to turn it off when it got there, Like a routine lol, anyways now i have heard all of Orion, Yes its amazing, and dude, go easy on me lol[/QUOTE]

funny you say that i remeber i did that when i first got MoP like 10 years ago

[QUOTE=heavy metal kid]Metallica have rip-off riffs of many artist and kirk says that one of the solos on wherever i may roam have a rip off of a Hendrix
solo.[/QUOTE]

kirk says, eh?

well how about listening to it. does it [I]sound[/I] like a Hendrix solo?

And what do you mean by "rip-off." Explain to me why they are ripping off the artists? What makes you think they aren't just influences?

i frigging hate where ever i may roam, its just keeps repeating and it turds me off. funny thing is, lotsa other songs do that and thats the only one that ****s me off