I'm not quite expecting it to be life-changing. It could be, but I don't want to set my expectations at any higher than it being a brilliant album, because high hopes only lead to disappointment.

I'm not sure if I've ever really had a "life-changing" album. Maybe albums that change my perspective on music, but not on life. How was it life changing for you, Kage?

Erm, that's hard to say exactly how. It's an intangible thing. It's got to do with abstractions and thought-processes and all that ambiguous stuff that makes an artist an artist and engineers mad.

That's understandable. The closest I've gotten to life changing was probably the extreme pre-occupation I've had with some Radiohead and Muse works.

The problem is, if an album grips me from the get-go, I can only hold on to it for so long. If a record is amazing, but not absolutely incredible, then I can listen to it over and over again and not as easily tire of it.

i could never love TDS. i don't know why - the beginning is 10 out of 10; all great songs, but after 'Closer' it has a hangover till the end (-> the last two songs are great again).

The Fragile is 10 out of 10 for whole two discs...

It's the opposite for me. Closer begins the best part of the disc and it's classic all the way through the end.

Closer is such a deep track. It really makes me feel great listening to it. It's their song, in my opinion.

[QUOTE]It's the opposite for me. Closer begins the best part of the disc and it's classic all the way through the end.[/QUOTE]
Same here. I love TDS and I've always personally thought that [I]that[/I] was the album to top. I think TF is a beautiful/fantastic album but (especially the left side) but there's just always been something about TDS that I can't get over. Most of my favorite NIN tracks probably come off that album including 'The Becoming', 'Heresy', and 'Eraser'.

Yeah, The Downward Spiral obviously has some of NIN's better tunes on it. I think it probably gets better after Closer, but some of the songs before are also great. "March of the Pigs" is solid, "Heresy" is one of my favorite songs on the album. But "Ruiner" and "Reptile" are some of my favorites by NIN.

i love the musicvideo of March of the Pigs - Trent Reznor at his best :thumb:

[QUOTE=repcak]i love the musicvideo of March of the Pigs - Trent Reznor at his best :thumb:[/QUOTE]Yeah, the video is great. I like the agression.

hist clothing, stlye, hairs - that is the trent reznor i have in mind everytime i think about NIN.
those were the best NIN days. wonderful

Yeah, that's basically the classic Trent Reznor image.

I think he looked better around the With Teeth recording, before he shaved his head.

i didn't like the Trent "Hulk" Reznor. i was in the second row at the concert and he was standing 5metres in front of me... it wasn't the trent i imagined always :(

Yeah, the muscular guy with a shaved head really doesn't coincide with the typical Trent image. But if that's what he wanted to do with himself, he shouldn't have to worry about maintaining the "image" people expect from him.

yes thats true. its his life and if it easier for him with coping depressions by body-building, its ok.

i only talked about my own subjective imagination of Trent.

Trent looks like a fuc[size=2]king[/size] queer nowadays.

[QUOTE=Kage]Trent looks like a fuc[size=2]king[/size] queer nowadays.[/QUOTE]

:lol:

I searched the thread and found nothing, but given how reliable the search can be that doesn't mean much.

Anyway, does anyone here know/like Sunna? I remember hearing them (saw them live on some magazine's compilation tape) and not liking them much around the time they released [i]One Minute Science[/i], but I picked up the album a couple of weeks ago for cheap, for one song. Not listened to it all the way through yet (mostly just the one song I remember liking, actually), but it seems okay, and very NIN-like. Worth checking out "Power Struggle", if nothing else, if you're a NIN fan, I think.

omg bartender's posting!!!

Was that you that banned that Fagoster idiot?

Yep.

[QUOTE=Kage]Trent looks like a fuc[size=2]king[/size] queer nowadays.[/QUOTE]

Ever since he started lobbing for PETA, he's been acting like one too. >:-[ :p

Are you fu[size=2]cking[/size] serious? I hate PETA.

[QUOTE=Kage]Are you fu[size=2]cking[/size] serious? I hate PETA.[/QUOTE]Yeah. He did public service announcements for them and everything.

This is the same PETA that Penn and Teller did a "Bullshi[size=2]t[/size]" documentary on, right?

Well actually what he did with/for PETA was somewhat just; the Chinese fur industry is kind of icky and stuff, and he wanted ot show people how icky it was/is, so he made a documentary about it or something.

PETA as a whole is just plain stupid though. Ugh, hippies.

If you mean People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, yes.

[url]http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.furisdead.com/page/425-trent.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.furisdead.com/feat-trentreznor.asp&h=225&w=425&sz=22&hl=en&start=3&tbnid=jhthnSbnFFDeMM:&tbnh=67&tbnw=126&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dtrent%2Breznor%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D[/url]

Fur I can understand. But PETA is just way too far up their own asses in general.

[QUOTE=repcak]i love the musicvideo of March of the Pigs - Trent Reznor at his best :thumb:[/QUOTE]

Beavis and Butthead watching that video cracks me up everytime. "Where do these dudes get their shiny pants? I think you just get regular pants and have them like...shined"

No 'Closure' yet BUT! we've got a teaser for the live dvd that they filmed during their last tour. It's looks great! Maybe even better than AATCHB. Check it out:
[url]http://staging.nin.com/hotnuts/byit_teaser_480.mov[/url]

Holy crap, that looks really awesome. That is some high quality. Looks unreally clear and crisp.

^Yeah, no kidding. I can't wait for this. Apparently it's gonna be released in three different formats which sucks for those people who absolutely need to have them all. They'll have three identical dvds, heh. I'll be fine with just a regular dvd, damn it.

Haha, yeah, definitely.

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Of course not :upset:

^Ah, I'll try to get a link up for you a little later.

Ok, well, nevermind. it's up at NIN.com now.

Holy sh!t! New NIN European tour dates are up! No U.S. dates as of yet though. This seems so soon..kinda exciting even though I'm no where near any of the stops. I can't believe the album is nearly done. Reznor posted a few days ago on the spiral boards that that album would be mixed in January (apparently expecting April release as of now). And now this tour! All I can say is that it is a damn good thing that they're not touring around here at the same time as Tool is 'cause I can't afford all these concerts..:p *needs to get a job*

10 feb 07 lisbon, portugal
11 feb 07 lisbon, portugal
12 feb 07 lisbon, portugal
14 feb 07 madrid, spain
16 feb 07 bilbao, spain
18 feb 07 barcelona, spain
21 feb 07 paris, france
22 feb 07 paris, france
23 feb 07 lille, france
25 feb 07 manchester, uk
28 feb 07 glasgow, uk
03 mar 07 nottingham, uk
04 mar 07 birmingham, uk
07 mar 07 london, uk
08 mar 07 london, uk
14 mar 07 koln, germany
18 mar 07 brussels, belgium
21 mar 07 amsterdam, holland
24 mar 07 berlin, germany
26 mar 07 stuttgart, germany
28 mar 07 munich, germany
29 mar 07 vienna, austria
01 apr 07 milan, italy
02 apr 07 zurich, switzerland
04 apr 07 frankfurt, germany
06 apr 07 copenhagen, denmark
07 apr 07 oslo, norway
08 apr 07 stockholm, sweden
10 apr 07 helsinki, finland

Huzzah! Birmingham it is!
This is gonna be awesome!

**** **** **** ****

[QUOTE]29 mar 07 vienna, austria[/QUOTE]

i love you i love you i love you... the best news today :D

I had no idea a new album was really in motion at this point...that's amazing.

yeah, great news indeed. i hope i will get tickets again :D

does anyone knows what he plans to do? about one/two years ago, after WT, there were rumours Trent want to make a album in the sense of "Still" - is this still true?