[QUOTE=Kaden]I think you're hawt.[/QUOTE]

Thanks, you don't remember who I am, do you? :)

This album has an abundance of extremely catchy choruses

[QUOTE=The Stapler]This album has an abundance of extremely catchy choruses[/QUOTE]
Hah, awesome.

Anyone notice the intro to the album sounds a lot like welcome to the machine, and that they actually used some Muse riffs and vocal melodies?

I am not bashing, I think it's kinda cool actually.

Yeah, there are a whole bunch of influences in the album, such as Queen, Pink Floyd, Rush and U2

I'm starting more and more to think that this might secretly be some sort of tribute album.

EDIT: I thought I downloaded The Root of All Evil but it was some other 6:01 song.

I love DT's mix of heavy riffing and lovely keyboards on Images & Words, so I look forward to getting Octavarium when it comes out here on the 20th.

Panic Attack is the continuation song, not Root. And there's no need to "preorder", as the album has already been released.

Really? Oh, I read that it was Root (hehe, root) earlier in the thread.

I guess I'll try downloading Panic Attack then (I just want to hear the continuation because its the best thing DT have ever done, besides Stream of Consciousness).

Well, don't quote me on it for sure, as I'm no DT expert. It's just what I heard, and when I listened to it it seemed to make sense.

Cecilliane says in his/her review that its The Root of all Evil. I'm 100% sure I got the wrong song, but still, Root is only 8:39? Seems like a pretty dodgy continuation, considering how epic the other ones were.

Root is 8:07, you may have the wrong tune. Hell, I may be wrong again. Too much confusion following this album. I'm gonna shut up now before I say more misleading statements.

You're confusing yourself by not reading my posts properly; I actually said that the song I downloaded is 6:01 and Root is 8:something.

[QUOTE=Werny]You're confusing yourself by not reading my posts properly; I actually said that the song I downloaded is 6:01 and Root is 8:something.[/QUOTE]

:upset: It's been a long night. Sorry, friend. I'm just trying to figure this out here. Some sites say Root is 8:07, others say it is 8:39. Not sure what that is all about.

[QUOTE=PIGS(1 different one)]Anyone notice the intro to the album sounds a lot like welcome to the machine, and that they actually used some Muse riffs and vocal melodies?

I am not bashing, I think it's kinda cool actually.[/QUOTE]
Wow! I thought that too! :rolleyes: :angry:

Root of All Evil is the AA continuation, not Panic Attack.

And whoever asked about The Answer Lies Within...that song is not weaker than I Walk Beside You, because it's meant to be soft and ballady, and it does a good job of that.

:eek: are you liking the ballads now JoZ :lol:

These walls is so good.

[QUOTE=Cain]Thanks, you don't remember who I am, do you? :)[/QUOTE]
Sure I do, you're Cain.

Look guys/ladies you will want to read this.

[URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octavarium]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octavarium[/URL]

I explained it a bit more detail here.

[URL=http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=350995]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=350995[/URL]

You might know already. There is talk on the petrucci forum too. In one part it explains some of the leakage songs which weren't correct.

[QUOTE=Kaden]Sure I do, you're Cain.[/QUOTE]

Never mind. It matters not.

[QUOTE=cjborton]:upset: It's been a long night. Sorry, friend. I'm just trying to figure this out here. Some sites say Root is 8:07, others say it is 8:39. Not sure what that is all about.[/QUOTE]

On the CD, if you buy it, there are sounds in between the tracks in the "pre-time" so the song is only 8:07 but when you rip it to computer it rips the pretime of the next track as part of it, making it 8:39. If that makes sense lol.

The pre-time noises are represented by the black keys on the keyboard on the back of the CD case, so dont occur between every song. Note that the noises are in the pitch of the key they are on.

D[I]a[/I]mn clever again, DT.

Does anybody have any clue what the meaning of the title track is? A lot of these lyrics are totally random :(

I'm so looking forward to hearing These Walls live when they come to Manchester in October/November time. I got the album on the 25th May as a leak and have also bought it coz you just have to have the real thing, the album art and insert art are so good! I personally love Octavarium, it is so much more focused and straight to the point than the previous efforts, not that I mind the endless soloing and showing off...I absolutley adore every single release DT have ever done and have been a huge fan for years! They never seem to lose their touch or passion for the music they make and I never find myself dissapointed with any of their releases...

...I just can't wait till they release meet n greets (if they do) for the gig here so I can thank them to their faces for what they've given me (along with getting my EB/MM JP signature guitar signed by the man himself hehe).

When DT next come to the UK I'll see them at as many as I can, I can't wait

and I have to say, today I finally realised how good the song Octavarium is, WHOA

I like I Walk Beside You until the gay chorus starts.

Really liking this album.

[QUOTE=3rdplanet]I like I Walk Beside You until the gay chorus starts.[/QUOTE]
dude, ursorite

I agree 100%

I can't wait to meet them, I have some contacts, and i'm scoring some backstage passes for when they come to Manchester :D.

Anyone here who plays guitar...can someone tell me wtf tuning is being used in "Panic Attack"?

Although the main riff of the song has alot of C's in it, it's not in C for sure...because there is a low Bb being played, listen to the point at 1:27 into the song, you can hear it without any interference.

But I'm almost positive that Petrucci/Myung are playing a note BELOW that Bb...and I think it's a G#. If you listen right before the first verse starts, I think about :50 into the song...the riff goes *note note note, Bb Bb Bb*...and I think that note is a low G#. Also, if you listen to the heavily palm muted section, starting at about 2:32, I swear I can hear it in the bass, although the guitar is too muddy to really make out.

But if the song is in G#, it makes the main riff, IMO, really hard to play. Of course, this is Dream Theater we're talking about, but still.

Any confirmation or denial of this would be great.

My mate just sent me "The YTSE jam" and it f[I]u[/I]cking rules!


Can anyone reccomend me anymore songs?

the glass prison
in the name of god
the dance of eternity (instrumental as well)
the miracle and the sleeper

that should get you started

[QUOTE=Kaden]

EDIT: Anyone else notice that the beginning of Octavarium sounds [i]exactly[/i] like shine on you crazy diamond?[/QUOTE]

I noticed that too.

I think the new cd is great.
octovarium ( the song) rocks, greatest songwriting I have seen in a long time

Octavarium is dream theaters best album, and that's saying a lot since Images and Words is one of the best albums ever. I think this tops it.


My god, It's amazing.

NP: Dream Theater- Octavarium

This is so weird seeing such mixed reviews of the new album. Half say its their worst album ever, and half say is their best album ever.

I dont think they really have a worst album, but IMO this definitely isnt their best. I think it would be dam[B][I][/I][/B]n hard to top SFAM. Personally, I would say Octaviarium would fall on the lower end of the DT scale.

JoZ i had a listen if the main riff goes C-C-C--C-Eb-C then the little link goes Ab-Ab--Ab-Ab--Bb-Bb-Bb I think....

However i don't have perfect pitch so had to use relative pitch up the octave...If you're sure thats the lowest note then the tuning may well be Ab...seems ghey though...8 string? baritone???

Sorry if this has been brought up already, but I have a question about The Root of All Evil. Is this song supposed to be a sequel to This Dying Soul? I only ask this because in TROAE, at about 4:50 in, the singing and lyrics are almost exactly the same to the chorus of TDS. Why did they do this?

np DT - Octovarium.

the part where James LaBrie screams 'Trapped inside this Octovarium' is actually scary :eek:

dam[SIZE=2]n[/SIZE] he sounds like he's going to explode any second.
this is his most agressive singing moment ever, even tops a lot od songs of Awake, as far as agressivenes(sp) goes

Yeah it goes

The glass prison -> This Dying Soul -> The Root Of All Evil

Something to do with the 12 steps of alcholism rehabilitation...has been mentioned in the thread many times, you could search it up too...

/still in the process of downloading Octavarium

"There are lots of guitar players out there who play super fast and super well--but they're also super lame. Like Dream Theater." Alexi Laiho

Anybody read this? Man, I like cob, but this is complete bull****.

[QUOTE=AClotM1]"There are lots of guitar players out there who play super fast and super well--but they're also super lame. Like Dream Theater." Alexi Laiho

Anybody read this? Man, I like cob, but this is complete bull****.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I've read that before. I like Children of Bodom too, and think that Alexi's a great guitar player, but he was just way out of line with that one.