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omgwtfboogie 11-11-2004 12:38 AM

[QUOTE=AIC/EAZY-E]

Lateralus

... 11/10.

[/QUOTE]
There you have it folks.


Thanks for giving it an honest score, most people overlook that song.

AIC/EAZY-E 11-11-2004 01:14 AM

thanks i originally put this up on ultimate-guitar.com but i missed out a few songs so i figured i might as well do their whole catalogue so no one could say i missed anything. i wasn't going to review the filler (eg. - ions).... anyway people here are generally more appreciative of Tool. and well theres an official thread for all things Tool here so this seems like its rightful home. i had ALOT of time on my hands that night.

swingonaspiral9 11-11-2004 02:04 AM

[QUOTE=AIC/EAZY-E]
Push.it

Both versions. Originally on Aenima, then rehashed on Salival the live album, I had ignored this track for some time, but once I listened, I was drawn in. This song has yet to be beaten. It goes 5 seconds short of 10 minutes, make sure no one bothers you on this song. Not to be played as back ground music of any type, this needs to be turned up LOUD. Feel Maynards anger. Feel Adams giant D riffs, Justin's ploddy bass, Danny's awesome fills and rolls. Every bit is masterpiece. Not a song to listen to when first purchasing the album, just let it come to you... 11/10.
[/QUOTE]

Yes. YES. What an amazing song. And none better to re-write.

TheMachineRagesOn 11-11-2004 05:53 AM

Not to mention Paul D'amour co wrote it back before he left.

Quebec 11-11-2004 09:13 AM

Who the hell is Harry Manback? yeah remember a track on Aenima called "message to harry manback" Who the hell is he?

jamesclelland 11-11-2004 11:24 AM

I was rumored that maynard had some people over and one guy inparticular wasnt happy with maynard. he called and left that message on maynards machine. Thats the rumor. if somebody else has better intel on it please fill me in.

omgwtfboogie 11-11-2004 11:42 AM

[QUOTE=jamesclelland]I was rumored that maynard had some people over and one guy inparticular wasnt happy with maynard. he called and left that message on maynards machine. Thats the rumor. if somebody else has better intel on it please fill me in.[/QUOTE]
That is indeed what we've been told. Hard to trust TOOL sometimes, though.

Adam Jones is GOD 11-11-2004 04:55 PM

[QUOTE=jamesclelland]I was rumored that maynard had some people over and one guy inparticular wasnt happy with maynard. he called and left that message on maynards machine. Thats the rumor. if somebody else has better intel on it please fill me in.[/QUOTE]

To further that, it was allegadely (pass the dictionary please) someone who lived in the same house with Maynard who was kicked out one day by the tenant. The resulting message was a way of getting back

I know the guy was Italian as well, hence the language and the 'if I ever see your f***ing face around, in Europe or Italy' but.

Or maybe thats all rubbish, but thats all I know

deadohiosky9 11-11-2004 06:22 PM

Great review.Excellent job. As for Harry Manback, I hear that he was like a roomate of Maynard's and he stole something, and Maynard kicked him out. "Hm? You think you're cool right? Hm? Hm?
When you kicked out people [out of] your house" very funny songs.

theshadesgodown 11-11-2004 07:03 PM

I just started listening to Tool recently and I really like them. I read all 67 pages of this thread so im going to say stuff about recent topics on here. First I want to say that I hope that the new cd isnt too heave because i really like the more melodic stuff they have, but if it is anything like lateralus I will probably still like it. As for wierd/cool things happening while listening to songs, the other night I was listening to lateralus(the cd) with my eyes closed b/c i was really tired. And whenever I opened them I could kind of see the yellow/green cirlce of eyes(or whatever they are supposed to be) spinning. It was really wierd. Another one was while reading this I was listening to 46&2 and somebody has a picture of a guy punching something repeatedly, when the song got to the part where it stops and repears the same note four times the punching was at the exact same times as the notes. It freaked me out a little. Whenever I listen to a stranger by A Perfect Circle, the part where he screams in the background alwasy scares me even to I know its there. And I have a question about APC. Does Billy or Maynard write the lyrics? I read somewhere that Billy writes them.





Sorry if Im talking too much. :rolleyes:

Magicaltroll 11-11-2004 07:29 PM

maynard writes the lyrics and billy pretty much writes all the music well except the new album of course because those are all covers

music=good 11-11-2004 07:35 PM

i think "passive" and "counting bodies like sheep to the rhythm of the war drums" were written by maynard and billy.

deadohiosky9 11-11-2004 07:37 PM

[QUOTE=music=good]i think "passive" and "counting bodies like sheep to the rhythm of the war drums" were written by maynard and billy.[/QUOTE]

Passive was written by Maynard and Danny Lohner, possbily Billy too, but I don't think so.

dUSK 11-11-2004 10:39 PM

Ok, I re-bought Aenema this week and I'm listening to it now. I just noticed something that I had never noticed before though.

In the Cover Booklet track order, it states
3. H. (0.39)
4. Useful Idiot (6.03)

but now that I listen to it, it actually plays as
3. H. (6.03)
4. Useful Idiot (0.39)

Is everyone's CD's like this? and why?

Colonel Oysterhead 11-12-2004 05:28 AM

hey ive just started to listen to tool for the very first time and i downloaded Aenima on mp3 and i like that song...what other tool songs sound like that?

jamesclelland 11-12-2004 10:40 AM

get eulogy, third eye, if your into the flanged bends get stinkfist, Forty six and two, are the best imo, but get them all dude.

an_underused_memory 11-12-2004 08:28 PM

further to the Harry Manback discussion...
from what i remember reading, its a combo of all the bits that everyone's mentioned so far:
Harry M was a friend of MJK's flatmate....and MJK/flatmate booted him when he was visiting. So the message (i think) was intended for the flatmate, but MJK was quite taken by it...
for more info, take a walk to toolshed and visit the tool FAQ

TheMachineRagesOn 11-12-2004 10:20 PM

i think it was that Harry manback stayed over maynards place with an italian friend ( the guy on the recording ) and the italian guy apparantly took advantage of maynards place, ate all his stuff, made a mess of the place and ran up his phone bill until maynard booted him out and then gave him that message.

i think that was on the tool faq on toolshed.down.net

god bless that faq.

theEndisNear 11-13-2004 07:15 AM

yeah that faq comes in very handy

Bartender 11-13-2004 07:17 AM

I'm fairly sure it was a hotel Maynard and the friend were staying in, not Maynard's place. Whoever left the message apparently checked in under the guise of being some kind of attendant, ran up a big mini-bar and phone call bill, left that message, and left.

Magicaltroll 11-13-2004 11:09 AM

ok i have another apc question
in the credits for passive, why does it have trent reznor? did he help sing or something? or did he help write the music.

Kage 11-13-2004 11:40 AM

I can't believe Trent would degrade himself to having his name on an APC record.

Dancin' Man 11-13-2004 11:41 AM

Shut up.

He probably produced the track.

Kage 11-13-2004 11:42 AM

Just venting my anger about the fact that APC is taking so much time away from Tool, and now they have to steal so many posts away from their thread.

Plus, NIN > all

ZaaR 11-13-2004 11:50 AM

I hated Tool a few months ago because I didn't like Maynard's voice in Eulogy. I then listened to Third Eye and I love them! I'm listening to it as I am writting this.

deadohiosky9 11-13-2004 12:41 PM

[QUOTE=punkdoodster]I hated Tool a few months ago because I didn't like Maynard's voice in Eulogy. I then listened to Third Eye and I love them! I'm listening to it as I am writting this.[/QUOTE]

Good job man. :thumb:

omgwtfboogie 11-13-2004 12:42 PM

[QUOTE=Kage]Just venting my anger about the fact that APC is taking so much time away from Tool, and now they have to steal so many posts away from their thread.

Plus, NIN > all[/QUOTE]
APC is on temporary hiatus right now. Which means Maynard's back with TOOL.


And for the last time, "Passive" was a remix of the song "Vacant/Perfect Enemy" by Tapeworm. Tapeworm was a project that Trent and Maynard had going for awhile before it was disbanded.

Kage 11-13-2004 01:19 PM

^^^ I was looking forward to Tapeworm so much... I couldn't believe it when it just sort of disappeared.

Magicaltroll 11-13-2004 01:36 PM

thanks for that^^^
does anyone know how many songs Tapeworm had? or was it just that one

clearvision 11-13-2004 02:38 PM

I want Tapeworm Mp3's, anyone know where to find em?

omgwtfboogie 11-13-2004 03:17 PM

[QUOTE=clearvision]I want Tapeworm Mp3's, anyone know where to find em?[/QUOTE]
There's only one and it's either on the TOOL page or TDN.

ThePatient 11-13-2004 03:38 PM

[QUOTE=deadohiosky9]Passive was written by Maynard and Danny Lohner, possbily Billy too, but I don't think so.[/QUOTE]
Oh man that's a great song. I'd give the new APC cd an 8.5. :thumb:

Adam Jones is GOD 11-13-2004 04:51 PM

[url]http://www.drummerworld.com/Videos/dannycarey.html[/url]

From our friends in the drum forum. Any drummers on here who havent seen it, check out the thread about it [URL=http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=263942&page=1&pp=25]here[/URL]

Adam Jones is GOD 11-13-2004 04:59 PM

He rarely plays it in most songs, but its more of a tool legendary thing now, as it represents (insert what i forgot it represents here) that apparently releases evil energies.

uhh, ok, I heard something about it ages ago, but now its blanked completely on me dammit.

Now all I need is an AJ walkthrough guide to the solo in that song. Or maybe I jsut need to improve my tremelo pinch harmonics

Dancin' Man 11-13-2004 05:23 PM

I have... 3 Tapeworm songs. IM me if you want them

omgwtfboogie 11-13-2004 05:25 PM

[QUOTE=Fast Fingers]I have... 3 Tapeworm songs. IM me if you want them[/QUOTE]
You do, huh? I'm not sure I believe that.

Dancin' Man 11-13-2004 05:42 PM

So don't believe it.

AJIG - They aren't actually that hard if you hold your pick the right way. You have to be able to hit them with your index finger and thumb which makes them a little stranger than usual pinch harmonics. Basically, sloppy tremelo picking is the easiest way to learn.

Adam Jones is GOD 11-13-2004 05:44 PM

I can do both seperately well, pinch followed by a tremelo. Its just combining the two that sucks. But i havent really spent much time lately attempting it, maybe when I start trying again ill nail it. But cheers for the advice

Dancin' Man 11-13-2004 05:46 PM

Also try doing the tremelo by rotating your wrist quickly instead of moving your full arm like you're supposed to for tremelo. It makes the harmonics easier to hit.

omgwtfboogie 11-13-2004 10:06 PM

[QUOTE=Fast Fingers]So don't believe it.
[/QUOTE]
Well hey, if you have them, more power to you.

Are they good, or just some random bull**** that you can live without?


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