^^^16" Thin Istanbul Agop Traditional......

Anyway, I did a review on a AA 18" Medium, here's the link.

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What iis a good pair of hats that also goes with a 18icnh aaxplosion and a 16inch aax stage crash? i was thinking 13inch aax stage hats or AA rock hi-hats.

^^ AAX stage hats or AAXcelerators

i think i will go for the stage hats.

I'm looking into buying a china cymbal, I want a bright crisp sound that is very audible and pronounced, preferably paist but any suggestions?

I'm back again in my quest for the perfect hats. First off, they have to sound hella smooth open, like my A Custom crashes, they have to be articulate and responsive, not slushy, and they have to have a tight foot chick.

Am I looking for lighter hats, like A Customs or AAX Studios, or smaller diameter (13" or smaller) standard hats like New Beats or AAX Stage, or heavier vented fusion hats?

Thanks in advance for any feedback.

I tried out heaps of hats when i picked out my 14" new beats. I'll run through soemt he ones I tried:

13" new beats
Awesome stick definition closed, but playign htem half cloased left a bit to be desired. They don't have enough metal for a nice sound, more of a harsher punch.

14" A Customs
Almost chose these, and a good pair of hats. Sweet closed sound and I quite enjoyed them half closed and open as well. I'd sugest starting here and see if you like them.

13" A Customs
Higher pitched than the 14" hats, didn't they them as much, but still offered a nice sound. Slushy when open so probably not what your lookign for.

14" HHX Groove Hats
I really did not like these hats, I thought I was going ot hear a nice crisp funky pair of hats when I tried them I ended up with a sharp high pitched chick.

14" Paiste Sound Formula Heavy Hats
I thought these hats were pretty alright, nice sticking and a pretty good wash sound when played open.

14" New Beats (brilliant)
They are great all round hats. Good stick definition and nice wash played open. A little brighter than the A Customs, check these out as well.


well theres a few I've tried out myself, I'm sure other people will offer more sugestions, just remmeber the most important thing is what YOU think about them, after all your the one whos goign to be playing them.

[QUOTE=Blackhorizons]I'm looking into buying a china cymbal, I want a bright crisp sound that is very audible and pronounced, preferably paist but any suggestions?[/QUOTE]

Try a 2002 china, either 18" or 20". Great cuttign chinas, the 20" will take your face off.

i wanna buy a cymbal set (high-hat, crash and ride) between 300 and 500 dollars i wanna play metal with it. thx

[QUOTE=Flyin' Brian]I'm back again in my quest for the perfect hats. First off, they have to sound hella smooth open, like my A Custom crashes, they have to be articulate and responsive, not slushy, and they have to have a tight foot chick.

Am I looking for lighter hats, like A Customs or AAX Studios, or smaller diameter (13" or smaller) standard hats like New Beats or AAX Stage, or heavier vented fusion hats?

Thanks in advance for any feedback.[/QUOTE]

those almost descirbe the AA sizzle hats. its a medium/heavy pairing, but the bottom is vented and has sizzles in it (obviously)

thus, the close sound is tight. foots should be sharp, and they give a great wash thanks to the sizzles.....all in all, best pairing of hats?

though, being AA, you have your choice of bright...or bright. heh....although, you [i]could[/i] request a custom order from a local dealer in having the bottom cymbal riveted in the same fashion for a pair of Hand hammereds or HHX's if your after a darker sound.

Sorry to bother. I was planning to get some new cymbals for my kit. I play mainly like Rock?...Rock-pop kinda music? Kinda mixed actually so i was looking for recommendations for crashes? Just planning to get maybe one or two or possibly even three more to add to my current kit? I currently have just an XS20 Medium-Thin Crash. Could you guys recommend me some other good ones? Umm....they have to be from Sabian cos the place i get them from only stocks Sabian. Thanks in advance. Btw...i'm not sure exactly what i need so yea....just recommendations? thanks. P.S. willing to get anything HHX and below. =) the rest are too pricey. haha thx.

go for medium/medium-thin weights for your styles

check out the Hand Hammered Medium and Medium Thin crashes, HHX Stage crashes, and posibly an AA or AAX crash (Stage/Medium-thin)

the HH and HHX lines [i]should[/i] be identically priced, so if they arent, grease out the shop and show them in the sabian catalog that they are equally priced.

have HH been phased out or something? cos i cant find them on the sabian website. Found AA but no HH. By the way, I dont think i will need a Stage Crash...those are for projection right? Maybe just one cos i dont think i will perform like on stage much. How bout studios crashes?

hells no...HH is known as Hand Hammered on the side...HH=Hand Hammered....thats their original thing too, you'll never see that leave.

and the stage/studio thing, that refers to the weight.

Stage = Medium-thin
Studio = Thin

for your given genres, the stages are best off for you.

oic. so its different from like projection crashes? cool. lucky..but right now i using the XS20 Medium Thin Crash and i find it quite a bit too gongy and only sounds good if i hit it hard and still then its a but like....it sounds thinnishly narrow? and like kinda high pitched with like quite a bit of sustain? thats the best i can put it. Anything which isnt that gongy and is like a bit deeper in sound with faster decay? Haha i hope u know what im talking about.

well, the XS20 line has the gongy thing going on in all models, so the HHX Stage crash sounds like what your describing. Dark, cuts, and fairly fast.

yay thats one down on my list. now for one more crash. =) what else would i need or is that all i should check out? Cos i dont want to buy something i wont use. By the way what kind of crash is that kind which is played over and over again like a hat in those like guitar heavy parts.

....umm...a big heavier crash?...try an 18" AA Medium crash i guess.

are u sure...? i was expecting like something thin and light. weird.

if your hitting it repetedly, your gonna want some weight to it to handle the sticking.

icic. btw u know what i'm talking about right? playing them instead of the hats? but actually at the same time really crashing on them?

So I was Thinking, Would a 16" HHX Stage crash and an 18" AA Medium Crash suffice? Together with the XS20 Crash I already own? But according to what i read on the sabian website, both cymbals are suited more for playing high volumes. Are there other cymbals which would be more suited for playing in a room? ty

By The way, in case my shop doesnt stock either of them, what would be good alternatives ? Could you recommend like 2 other alternatives per cymbal? Thanks again. Sorry for the trouble

ive been looking for decently priced cymbals. i play mostly punk/rock. something loud, fast, and versitile. anyone help me?

[QUOTE=wipe_my_button]ive been looking for decently priced cymbals. i play mostly punk/rock. something loud, fast, and versitile. anyone help me?[/QUOTE]

try something from the AA or the AAX line.

[quote]So I was Thinking, Would a 16" HHX Stage crash and an 18" AA Medium Crash suffice? Together with the XS20 Crash I already own? But according to what i read on the sabian website, both cymbals are suited more for playing high volumes.[/quote]

trust me, they'll be fine. those are good choices too.

[quote]ive been looking for decently priced cymbals. i play mostly punk/rock. something loud, fast, and versitile. anyone help me?[/quote]

Sabian PRO....those things CUT

bobby__johnny: Sabian PRO....those things CUT

whats the difference between the sabian b8 pro and the b8 rock pro?

In your opinion....What're better?

A Custom? K Custom? or Z Custom?

im looking for a second crash. im looking into a Z Custom medium crash. im kind of looking for a loud crash and sort of fast. what size should i get if i do.

[QUOTE=NCDrummer]In your opinion....What're better?

A Custom? K Custom? or Z Custom?[/QUOTE]

A custom and K customs

[QUOTE=rwood317]im looking for a second crash. im looking into a Z Custom medium crash. im kind of looking for a loud crash and sort of fast. what size should i get if i do.[/QUOTE]

you should get an A custom instead. Z's are a dead sound.

[QUOTE=wipe_my_button]bobby__johnny: Sabian PRO....those things CUT

whats the difference between the sabian b8 pro and the b8 rock pro?[/QUOTE]

cant say i've heard of B8 Rock Pro before...but the difference in the PRO's and B8 Pro's would be definate quality. the PRO's are made more like the Paiste Alpha in terms of alloy and sound. the B8 Pro (to me) is just a regular B8 with a Brilliant Finish